Would you pay a few more bucks to open this board to all?

walkunafraid

I don't think I'm alone in feeling conflicted about posting on this board. Of course, I enjoy the community and so on, but it just isn't cool that some people from the Pit are no longer here just because they choose not to pay for a 10C membership.

If the issue is that the 10C wants to make this board eligible only to paid members in order to make more money, why not just raise current 10C membership 2 or 3 dollars? There are thousands of 10C members out there, and I'm sure that most of us wouldn't stop being members if we were asked to pay a few more dollars.

I, for one, would rather see a raise in my 10C dues and have this board open to ALL PJ fans than to shamefully take part in a board exclusive only to people who can/do pay for a membership.

Just saying...

jeffbr

I don't believe that the 10c is looking for a few extra bucks from its members in order to keep the board alive. I think they are making the board 10c only so they can list it as an additional benefit available to members. I would have preferred the old board staying as it was, BTW.

walkunafraid

jeffbr wrote:

I don't believe that the 10c is looking for a few extra bucks from its members in order to keep the board alive. I think they are making the board 10c only so they can list it as an additional benefit available to members. I would have preferred the old board staying as it was, BTW.

Right, but my point is that by listing the board as an "additional benefit" for members only, it essentially means that the club is trying to draw more people to pay for 10C membership. Which therefore means that this all goes back to money.

rockpants

I think they're streamlining the forum and the site, and I have no problem with the switch. There are many other fan-based forums to post at if they're unwilling to join, or rejoin, the 10C. Many years ago, my free email address became free no longer, which was a pretty big hassle - it's not that I don't sympathize. I find the switch understandable. It becomes a far more manageable process for the 10C, which in turn will, I hope, lend to a more secure, friendly, and more personable atmosphere.

Of course the band would love to draw more people to the club. That's always been a fact and there's nothing wrong with that. The board switch will factor into it to some degree, but I highly doubt it's the main intention. If it were, they'd charge for 10C membership as it has been for the last umpteen years, and another fee to access the message board.

LoveBoatAdmiral

I don't get it. So your argument is that those of us who are already paying should pay more so that others who've already stated that they won't pay can use the forum for free?

walkunafraid

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

I don't get it. So your argument is that those of us who are already paying should pay more so that others who've already stated that they won't pay can use the forum for free?

I'm not making an argument, I'm asking a question. You shouldn't need to read past the title of the thread to see that.

The "argument" part is just what I'd want/be willing to do; I support the idea, but am curious to see what others think. Obviously you're against it. Thanks for answering my question.

CHANGEinWAVES

I'd pay a few extra $$ to open the forum to all the friends I made on the pit....of course!

In My Dreams

I do not support that idea. I am not willing to pay extra for those who do not want to join 10c. I think I'm paying enough already.

Kilgore_Trout

this is obviously NOT about money... you think they didnt consider that some of us would be upset by this move? they're bound to lose more members and board users than they are going to gain with this kind of snubbing... it's not like anyones dumb enough to pay simply for this board when there are so many other boards available for free... those 10 clubbers who have been paying their dues for years will continue to do so for the same reason we have in the past - not for some exclusive board... im turned off by all this "pay to post" talk over on the old board... really not giving the due credit 10C for all the other benefits they give us for that $20... i guess its just beyond me why someone that devotes a large portion of their day to a message board wouldnt already be a fan club member... and if the board is really that important to these people and to maintaining friendships and such why cant they justify such a modest annual expense? this board is not yet ANOTHER perk... i would gladly pay an extra $5 if i thought that would open the board to everyone - just to stop the whining and to get some action back on the forum (not that i condone socialism... but the expense is NOTHING)... i honestly dont think thats the solution to the problem nor the intention of 10C

Julien

I don't understand why we should pay for those who don't want to pay.
Sorry, but $20 isn't much for the membership.
I can understand that some people don't agree with the fact that you're obliged to be a 10C member to post here, but come on, it's just $20...

pdalowsky

I really dont care either way, being a memeber isnt an issue to me, the cost is small, and I love the board, the band, the deeps when they come, and just being a part of the PJ community which however cliched it may be is an awesome one with great great people..

I am an active member of Pjcollectors site also, and although its on a much smaller scale, someone has to pay to keep it online so we recently threw in a few euros each, that tiny cost compared to what i get out of it was well worth it.

CJMST3K

completely no. if the difference really is a couple of bucks (which seems like an arbitrary amount) why cant non members just pay a bbs fee without other membership benefits? theyre not shutting down this board due to lack of funds... just those that want to post have to be paid members of the fan club. those that dont want to pay but still want to be part of a PJ bbs can post on the RM BOARD.

EB158220

Absolutely not. While I will miss many people who are not coming over, I'd rather see a cost increase benefit me directly. Call me self-centered, but I'd be the one paying the increase.

florence151

Why not ask the US Treasury for some of the TARP bailout money to fund opening the board?

LukinFan

I have a feeling that they will open the board to everyone eventually

Umbertotamba

I am soooo against paying for those who are not willing to pay for themselves

dd248965

LukinFan wrote:

I have a feeling that they will open the board to everyone eventually

agreed. Seems like a misguided attempt to try and force people to join the fan club in order to retain posting ability. And how dumb are we (or do they think we are) making this place one of the so called benefits of tenclub..it's been free to post here since 95 or 96..now we hafta pay for it and feel lucky 'cos we get to do so?
shenanigans.
It's all about the money!

Jstep

Able, yes.
Willing, no.

CC56367

I would gladly pay a few extra bucks for something if it went to charity or the SPCA or something remotely meaningful. But not so people I don't even know can post opinions on a message board. Give me a break.

DD164485

Personally I don't have a problem with this being a forum for 10c members only.
In fact I pefer it to the old board.
I love the fact that it's a members only type of deal.
It keeps the trolls away and makes the board exclusive to fans.

Afterall, if one chooses to not join the 10c...there are plenty of free forums out there to take part in besides this one.

If you wanna post on this fourm...Join the fan club.

I don't see the problem.

Personally, I find it kind of strange that someone would be so into a band that they'd spend their days on an internet message board yaking about Pearl Jam... yet choose to not shell out the $15-$20 a year to join the fan club.

Just saying.

InHiding19

If you are a big enough fan to post on this forum everyday then you should just splurge the twenty dollars to be a ten club member. I mean the benefits you get besides the board are pretty sick!

anakin_pdx

DD164485 wrote:

Personally I don't have a problem with this being a forum for 10c members only.
In fact I pefer it to the old board.
I love the fact that it's a members only type of deal.
It keeps the trolls away and makes the board exclusive to fans.

Exactly. I don't think the new board is an attempt to make more money or even to be able to list it as a perk for membership. I think the biggest if not only reason to make it club only is to keep some yahoo who is selling a record post "hey look what I just found on eBay" and it's obviously their auction and they have only one post which is the one advertising their auction. Or the people coming on and asking for the "secret" password to buy tickets because they just want to get them to scalp.

Sure members can still do that, but it will cut back a lot of those type of posts.

LONGRD

Julien wrote:

I don't understand why we should pay for those who don't want to pay.
Sorry, but $20 isn't much for the membership.
I can understand that some people don't agree with the fact that you're obliged to be a 10C member to post here, but come on, it's just $20...

It's not the $20 or $25 internationally, it's the location and place they live in. Why would someone pay that if PJ won't tour their country or state/province? It doesn't make them less of a fan...

libragirl

Im thinking that it wasn't really about making more money but offering people who are in the club an extra benefit. But saying that, I suppose i wouldn't mind paying an extra couple of bucks if it means more people can post on here.

AvocadoLady

Do we have ANY evidence that they're shutting down the old board for financial reasons?

MS271966

i don't see much of a "community" atmosphere when they cut out half of the former posting community by making this board a benifit of 10c membership!
I don't think it is a money issue for the 10c or the band, but i would love to know their thinking!
we are yet to recieve an esplination... :twisted:

harmless little fuck

free(dom) is the key...

Cosmic Slop

As an "international" member I already pay more for my membership, and significantly more for shipping if I choose to buy something while US members usually have free shipping. I definitely would NOT pay extra to post on this board.

harmless little fuck

what if i live in a third world country and 25$ is my monthly salary...should that means that i cannot be part of this community???...what kind of brotherhood spirit is that?

LongRd. wrote:

Julien wrote:

I don't understand why we should pay for those who don't want to pay.
Sorry, but $20 isn't much for the membership.
I can understand that some people don't agree with the fact that you're obliged to be a 10C member to post here, but come on, it's just $20...

It's not the $20 or $25 internationally, it's the location and place they live in. Why would someone pay that if PJ won't tour their country or state/province? It doesn't make them less of a fan...

Gary Carter

honestly i would not pay extra money for people i dont know to post on a board. they should do away with this 10c member only bs. this board has been free since the days of the aol board. if its bout the money then i'd like to know where the money from tours, merch and whatever else is really going to. this rule is gonna hurt the board big time cause of the top of my head i know of 4 free pj boards where people can go

Corey Lynn

how about a rescue fund for those who are not able to buy a membership themselves : ) Actually, I am sure that there are things that pj fans need more than memberships...and I would give to that fund...a membership is not on my short list of priorities...but, I am glad that I am able to have one.