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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    He did. Two of the most fun nights I have ever had but You can’t have it both ways. Eli Manning has been a really good qb on some amazing teams and he has been a pretty shitty qb on some horrendous teams. He has both benefited and been hurt by the team around him. 
    He's been better than given credit. Like I've said earlier he could be 150-82 if he had good defenses and special teams
    Whhhhhooooo cares? He won two super bowl mvps. He’s going to the hall of fame. You (and me) enjoyed his career. What else is there?
    If he had that record. We would not be arguing whether his career is over or if he sucked.
    Who is arguing that he sucked? What record?
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    He did. Two of the most fun nights I have ever had but You can’t have it both ways. Eli Manning has been a really good qb on some amazing teams and he has been a pretty shitty qb on some horrendous teams. He has both benefited and been hurt by the team around him. 
    He's been better than given credit. Like I've said earlier he could be 150-82 if he had good defenses and special teams
    Whhhhhooooo cares? He won two super bowl mvps. He’s going to the hall of fame. You (and me) enjoyed his career. What else is there?
    If he had that record. We would not be arguing whether his career is over or if he sucked.
    Who is arguing that he sucked? What record?
    If he had a 150-82 record instead of a 116-116. He got blamed for the losses. The wins, it's always he was benefited from other players. I'm talking about the overall football fan universe. If he had the same numbers but had that record. Things obviously would be different. I'm not he hasn't had bad games. But we usually lost those games. He can have great games and it's 50-50 if the Giants win.
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited September 2019
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    He did. Two of the most fun nights I have ever had but You can’t have it both ways. Eli Manning has been a really good qb on some amazing teams and he has been a pretty shitty qb on some horrendous teams. He has both benefited and been hurt by the team around him. 
    He's been better than given credit. Like I've said earlier he could be 150-82 if he had good defenses and special teams
    Whhhhhooooo cares? He won two super bowl mvps. He’s going to the hall of fame. You (and me) enjoyed his career. What else is there?
    If he had that record. We would not be arguing whether his career is over or if he sucked.
    Who is arguing that he sucked? What record?
    If he had a 150-82 record instead of a 116-116. He got blamed for the losses. The wins, it's always he was benefited from other players. I'm talking about the overall football fan universe. If he had the same numbers but had that record. Things obviously would be different. I'm not he hasn't had bad games. But we usually lost those games. He can have great games and it's 50-50 if the Giants win.
    I really wish that Eli could have played his final years as a QB with a decent team.  He has has had his ups & down but he was playing very well last year & this year.  He never a diva,  never blamed anyone else, & he has been healthy for his whole  career.

    I think the kid did good,  I know the 'mobile  QB' is popular now,  but I bet this generation of QB's will have shorter careers.  If you're being your own wide receiver, you have a much higher injury risk.  QB's get knocked down enough.  

    I don't particularly like the QB running for downs & TD's on a regular basis. Every now & then,  it's great,  but not every game. It's not his job. 

    I didn't enjoy this win like I normally do.  I didn't enjoy the game as much.  I still don't like the decision.  It's my opinion that there was a classier way to introduce Jones.  Interesting to see how he'll do against a division rival,  or Brady. Eli was giving him advice throughout the game & all week.  He is more forgiving than me. But he's a team player,  too bad that team doesn't think he was due a classier transition. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    Mayfield spoke too soon
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    Eli giving Jones his 4th quarter mojo

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    Barkley likely out 4-8 weeks
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    He did. Two of the most fun nights I have ever had but You can’t have it both ways. Eli Manning has been a really good qb on some amazing teams and he has been a pretty shitty qb on some horrendous teams. He has both benefited and been hurt by the team around him. 
    He's been better than given credit. Like I've said earlier he could be 150-82 if he had good defenses and special teams
    Whhhhhooooo cares? He won two super bowl mvps. He’s going to the hall of fame. You (and me) enjoyed his career. What else is there?
    If he had that record. We would not be arguing whether his career is over or if he sucked.
    Who is arguing that he sucked? What record?
    If he had a 150-82 record instead of a 116-116. He got blamed for the losses. The wins, it's always he was benefited from other players. I'm talking about the overall football fan universe. If he had the same numbers but had that record. Things obviously would be different. I'm not he hasn't had bad games. But we usually lost those games. He can have great games and it's 50-50 if the Giants win.
    An overall pretty good qb who magically turned into the most clutch qb in post season history....twice. Just be happy with that and don't try and make him out to be something he wasn't. The win loss record is pretty appropriate. 

    I'm really going to miss him. 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    He did. Two of the most fun nights I have ever had but You can’t have it both ways. Eli Manning has been a really good qb on some amazing teams and he has been a pretty shitty qb on some horrendous teams. He has both benefited and been hurt by the team around him. 
    He's been better than given credit. Like I've said earlier he could be 150-82 if he had good defenses and special teams
    Whhhhhooooo cares? He won two super bowl mvps. He’s going to the hall of fame. You (and me) enjoyed his career. What else is there?
    If he had that record. We would not be arguing whether his career is over or if he sucked.
    Who is arguing that he sucked? What record?
    If he had a 150-82 record instead of a 116-116. He got blamed for the losses. The wins, it's always he was benefited from other players. I'm talking about the overall football fan universe. If he had the same numbers but had that record. Things obviously would be different. I'm not he hasn't had bad games. But we usually lost those games. He can have great games and it's 50-50 if the Giants win.
    An overall pretty good qb who magically turned into the most clutch qb in post season history....twice. Just be happy with that and don't try and make him out to be something he wasn't. The win loss record is pretty appropriate. 

    I'm really going to miss him. 
    W-L record is not indicative of how well he played. If Tampa makes the field goal. Does that take away from the game Jones had? 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    He did. Two of the most fun nights I have ever had but You can’t have it both ways. Eli Manning has been a really good qb on some amazing teams and he has been a pretty shitty qb on some horrendous teams. He has both benefited and been hurt by the team around him. 
    He's been better than given credit. Like I've said earlier he could be 150-82 if he had good defenses and special teams
    Whhhhhooooo cares? He won two super bowl mvps. He’s going to the hall of fame. You (and me) enjoyed his career. What else is there?
    If he had that record. We would not be arguing whether his career is over or if he sucked.
    Who is arguing that he sucked? What record?
    If he had a 150-82 record instead of a 116-116. He got blamed for the losses. The wins, it's always he was benefited from other players. I'm talking about the overall football fan universe. If he had the same numbers but had that record. Things obviously would be different. I'm not he hasn't had bad games. But we usually lost those games. He can have great games and it's 50-50 if the Giants win.
    An overall pretty good qb who magically turned into the most clutch qb in post season history....twice. Just be happy with that and don't try and make him out to be something he wasn't. The win loss record is pretty appropriate. 

    I'm really going to miss him. 
    W-L record is not indicative of how well he played. If Tampa makes the field goal. Does that take away from the game Jones had? 
    Yeah but it’s appropriate 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    Hard to tell if the defense is doing great or if the Skins suck. But they're doing what they need to do against a weak offense. They wouldn't do this the first 2 weeks
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Nice start.  Got to beat the bad teams. The next two weeks will be telling. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    edited September 2019
    The 2 interceptions haven't hurt us
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    Our running game is good today.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    Interception for the touchdown
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    2-2
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    igotid88 said:
    2-2
    Hells yeah
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    https://youtu.be/ppbB-YaxR1w
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    These last wins were expected. Can't make the same mistakes we made today against a good team. Defense did what it was supposed to against a bad offense.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    Saquon might be back sooner than expected
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    igotid88 said:
    Saquon might be back sooner than expected
    So dumb

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