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what did the south (Arkansas & Texas ) do to not deserve a show since '03?

HogsrulHogsrul Posts: 36
edited July 2008 in The Porch
I had heard that the band was upset shot something but don't know what. Can anyone shed some low light on this?

I hope to see them down this way next year.
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    ozarkcoolchicozarkcoolchic Posts: 621
    I don't think they sell enough tickets in Arkansas to make a show here profitable for them, but Texas......I don't know. You were at the show in Little Rock in 03 and you saw that the whole upper deck of Alltel Arena was empty & curtained off. Seriously, I have a 223*** 10c # & I sat 6th row center in Little Rock. The best my number has ever gotten for me except for Grand Rapids in 06 which is another 10c story all together!! I don't see why they are slighting St. Louis, though. Every show I've seen there has been sold out or damn near close to it.
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    red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    Hey. Texas fucking rocked those pearl jam shows hard core. :D Granted, we may not be as loved as NYC or Boston, but when the band played Texas there are always people rockin the fuck out. Not in a mosh pit way of course (Moshpits suck :p) but we enjoy a fucking rock and roll show as much as the rest of them.
    Screw the "Bush is office rumors." Eddie helped encourage that by plugging ralph nader in 2000. Then again they did tour here in 2003? If it is Bush related, well our votes don't count as much as we think anyways so HA :p Yes, we have the right to vote, BUT the electoral college picks the president and our votes are configured into a [percentage per state, so it isn't Texas Fault. If it is Bush related, Ed should have given the electoral college hell at the Washington DC show. :p
    Play Texas Damnit! :D Bush isn't even from here, He was born in Conneticut. Ok, I'll give you the fact the Crawford ranch is here, but that's a vacation spot/ second home, Kind if like if I bought a condo or apartment in Seattle (If I had the $ I'd do it). I do hope to move there some day.
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    yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    PJ could easily do a 2 nighter in Dallas and sell them both out no problem...this "low ticket sales" thing doesn't apply to TX so I have no idea why they wont come here. .........Sadness...........
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    mindimindi Posts: 1,858
    What is the deal with St Louis???? The last time they were here was in 2004 for the VFC show.
    I live in Edwardsville IL but am about 20 minutes from St Louis.
    And in my humble opinion, I think Ed should do a solo show here, I mean it is "Ed"wardsville!!!! There is a little theatre up the street from me he could play at.
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    Oz JammerOz Jammer Posts: 9,858
    Probably the same thing as what New Zealand did 10 years ago
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    TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    I've heard rumors of a dallas show in september, so I'm pretty sure they have something planned for more south shows/west coast. We'll see!
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    jimbeejimbee Posts: 81
    pssstt ..this is a business..when did it become about you?!?!?!

    It's not rocket science to figure out travel expenses are reduced when multiple night shows can be booked to the same venue...let us know when the south can support that...
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    TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    jimbee wrote:
    pssstt ..this is a business..when did it become about you?!?!?!

    It's not rocket science to figure out travel expenses are reduced when multiple night shows can be booked to the same venue...let us know when the south can support that...

    thats retarted, just book a smaller venue, just because you can't sell 20,000 tickets in Alabama doesn't mean they should never play there again, and forget what fans they do have there
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    jimbeejimbee Posts: 81
    TheGossman wrote:
    thats retarted, just book a smaller venue, just because you can't sell 20,000 tickets in Alabama doesn't mean they should never play there again, and forget what fans they do have there

    ok junior, then lets do the math...the band signs on to play Bonnaroo, which last i checked, TN is in the south...with me so far? equipment and band travel from Seattle or at least let's say left coast...so to offset expenses, they schedule a few gigs...TX and AL would be on the way..eh???? but instead they book shows in the northeast...i guess they really do LOVE camden!!! lol... and ironically, Hartford was a stop in between NYC and Boston...so why do you think they didn't play any gigs between left coast and TN?!?!?!?!?!?
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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,009
    TheGossman wrote:
    I've heard rumors of a dallas show in september, so I'm pretty sure they have something planned for more south shows/west coast. We'll see!
    that show was killed awhile ago when ACL didn't happen, sorry
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,544
    Ed doesn't like the south. It is easy to see. Yeah, they'll play in Texas again, but they don't make it a priority . Ed is an elitist liberal. Why haven't they been back to New Orleans?
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    teskeincteskeinc Posts: 836
    theres nothing for them to do outside of sitting in their rooms then playing a show. florida has the beaches, bonnaroo was a festival at least, columbia? not sure why they played there. everywhere else was a real city, good food, things to do , etc. I lived in the South and it sucked! Do you really expect someone to want to go to Little Rock? Alabama? Not happening anytime soon , sorry.

    Next big tour , maybe fall of 09' I would imagine they might play Atlanta, New Orleans , Dallas but thats it. It costs alot of money to tour and their management is running a business, if you live in a crappy city in the South you can do 2 things, #1 quit being a baby and travel to see them or #2 nothing.
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    Sexy2aFaultSexy2aFault Posts: 388
    Someone met Stone and he said the South did not sell well and it was a major expense and detour. The band is green aware.They still love their fans in the South though, you cannot take it personally. They have not played Canada much for similar reasons. They are pretty liberal up there so there is no need to accuse the band of skipping the South due to political reasons.


    i live in Mich. and was skipped in 95 and 96 (I couldn't drive anyway but), if you go through the tours everyone has been skipped save the Northeast, where PJ has an amazing fanbase that sells out everytime, and usually the band can play two shows in each major city. The SOuth did get some shows this year (and from what I hear Columbia brought it hardcore) which shows they are conscientious of the need to playeverywhere.
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    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    the major cities in the south are too spread out compared to the northeast, so its more expensive. plus they arent as big down here so they would have to play bigger cities. thats my theory anyway.
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    teskeincteskeinc Posts: 836
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    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    play Austin you pussies!


    and cow tipping is a midwestern thing i hear. we just have sex with our cousins and burn crosses. get your regional stereotypes right, dumbass!
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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,009
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Ed doesn't like the south. It is easy to see. Yeah, they'll play in Texas again, but they don't make it a priority . Ed is an elitist liberal. Why haven't they been back to New Orleans?
    Ed and the boys love Florida and Atlanta- so I wouldn't say "Ed doesn't like the South"- he just doesn't like Texas
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    mindimindi Posts: 1,858
    But what about St Louis? We're not even in the South!! There is tons of stuff to do around here.
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    CobCob Posts: 857
    jimbee wrote:
    pssstt ..this is a business..when did it become about you?!?!?!

    It's not rocket science to figure out travel expenses are reduced when multiple night shows can be booked to the same venue...let us know when the south can support that...

    Really, well on this last tour they played WPB 1 night, Tampa 1 night, Roo 1 night, Coumbia 1 night, Virginia Beach 1 night, D.C. 1 night and Hartford 1 night. The only venues that got 2 nights were Camden, MSG and Mansfield.
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    yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    What kills me about threads like this is the people that post in here and are completely unsympathetic to the fans in places like TX. I understand that it is expensive to tour the south but it just seems crazy that a state like TX, which is one of the most populated in the country, gets skipped for 5 years now. Dallas, Houston and Austin could all have 2 night shows and sell out easily. Surely you can understand why the fans in TX are frustrated...imagine that NY got skipped for 5 years. There would be a fucking riot on these boards.

    Now before you all start posting things like "just travel to see them like the rest of us" I have traveled to see them just about every tour now...all I'm saying is a hometown show would be nice, and some support from other fans for the band to play here would be nice as well. Fans in TX love the band as much as any other fans :)
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    Sexy2aFaultSexy2aFault Posts: 388
    yield2me wrote:
    What kills me about threads like this is the people that post in here and are completely unsympathetic to the fans in places like TX. I understand that it is expensive to tour the south but it just seems crazy that a state like TX, which is one of the most populated in the country, gets skipped for 5 years now. Dallas, Houston and Austin could all have 2 night shows and sell out easily. Surely you can understand why the fans in TX are frustrated...imagine that NY got skipped for 5 years. There would be a fucking riot on these boards.

    Now before you all start posting things like "just travel to see them like the rest of us" I have traveled to see them just about every tour now...all I'm saying is a hometown show would be nice, and some support from other fans for the band to play here would be nice as well. Fans in TX love the band as much as any other fans :)

    They wouldn't sell out 6 shows in Texas, nice try. San Antonio (which has a huge population) didn't sell out the 1 show they got.
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    Sonic19Sonic19 Posts: 159
    Hogsrul wrote:
    I had heard that the band was upset shot something but don't know what. Can anyone shed some low light on this?

    I hope to see them down this way next year.
    Probably cause their fans from there make awful puns.
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,757
    Sexy2aFault wrote:
    They wouldn't sell out 6 shows in Texas, nice try. San Antonio (which has a huge population) didn't sell out the 1 show they got.

    Two things.

    No. 1 -- Houston and DFW are much, much bigger than SA. Play there. You shouldn't have much problems.

    No. 2 -- I was at the SA show ... I have a hard time believing it wasn't sold out. There were people fucking everywhere. More than most shows I've seen at that venue. I was under the impression that it DID sell out.
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    South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,708
    I heard it was because there were too many threads :D
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    red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    yield2me wrote:
    What kills me about threads like this is the people that post in here and are completely unsympathetic to the fans in places like TX. I understand that it is expensive to tour the south but it just seems crazy that a state like TX, which is one of the most populated in the country, gets skipped for 5 years now. Dallas, Houston and Austin could all have 2 night shows and sell out easily. Surely you can understand why the fans in TX are frustrated...imagine that NY got skipped for 5 years. There would be a fucking riot on these boards.

    Now before you all start posting things like "just travel to see them like the rest of us" I have traveled to see them just about every tour now...all I'm saying is a hometown show would be nice, and some support from other fans for the band to play here would be nice as well. Fans in TX love the band as much as any other fans :)
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    red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    Sexy2aFault wrote:
    They wouldn't sell out 6 shows in Texas, nice try. San Antonio (which has a huge population) didn't sell out the 1 show they got.
    Actually Yes it did. ;)
    Also, the band could just play 2 cities down here in Texas. We are just wanting to see a pearl jam show, which is what everyone else on this board wants everyday. They played 3 Texas cities last time, so this time they could play Just Houston and Dallas. They also did a 2 night back to back show in Houston in 2000 and both shows sold out, so yeah they can sell out 2 nighters here. You also do realize that it won't be just Texas people at the shows. There will be people from Oklahoma, Arkansas, and other cities within 4 and 5 hour stretches that don't get a show coming to the Texas ones. People from this board on the east/ West coasts who see like 10 shows a tour will also flock down here and watch the shows too, even though they feel the need to bash us on here for wanting to see pearl jam play a few shows in our state, It's a reasonable request. Just like the Play "Spectrum" thread or "Alpine valley", and even Seattle. (Really surprised Seattle hasn't gotten a pj show in awhile), but even those people where able to drive to the Gorge. Not knocking ya, just saying we need some pearl jam to rock out to live down here too. :D
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    whidbeywhidbey ATX Posts: 57
    MrSmith wrote:
    play Austin you pussies!


    No shit! I don't want to hear how expensive it is to travel. Just did a 2600 mile road trip at four dollars a gallon to see pj in Tampa, the closest to Texas show. And I have never ever voted for George W Bush or his daddy.
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    Bush & Clinton!!!!
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    pldbettermanpldbetterman Posts: 4
    what about memphis?? they did well there in 2000... sold out
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    yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    Sexy2aFault wrote:
    They wouldn't sell out 6 shows in Texas, nice try. San Antonio (which has a huge population) didn't sell out the 1 show they got.


    Read my post about fans not supporting the fans in TX (that part applies to you) and the San Antonio show DID in fact sell out...I was there so try again.
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