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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    I can tell you right now - the Phils will not have a "new" tv contract. They are going to be sticking with Comcast. They definitely won't have their own network like the Yanks or Red Sox.

    no didn't mean it like that. last i heard their contract with comcast wasn't all that great because it was signed back before this run. i believe there are still a few more years on the deal but when it comes up again expect a huge increase from it.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    I'm in KC for a meeting. How bout that Doc! 3 run double. :o

    he is unreal. nice win. hopefully kong heats up. he always seems to do well in cincy.

    you guys gotta check out the youtube clip at the end of this. unbelievable how uncoordinated this guy is.

    http://www.thefightins.com/meechone/dom ... gh-valley/

    EDIT: The Power & Light District section of KC isnt bad

    cliff posted that yesterday day too.

    i dunno....i don't think a little humility is necessarily a bad thing for the guy. not giving up on him yet.

    just amazing to me that someone can be so close to/in the majors and not be able to catch fly balls. it really isn't difficult
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    His head doesn't seem in it anymore

    Maybe he needs a mental break or something

    Not exactly someone I want added to the playoff roster at this point
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    How did The Fixer land a gig writing for Bill Simmons?

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/691 ... a-phillies

    Love the utley and howard stuff in there. I get angry every time I read somethign about howards contract. so fucking dumb

    Hopefully this team can win it all this year.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    His head doesn't seem in it anymore

    Maybe he needs a mental break or something

    Not exactly someone I want added to the playoff roster at this point

    Some of those attempts were pitiful. Reminded of smalls just sticking his glove in the air hoping the ball would land in it. Yankees said they thought Montero was bored in the minor leagues and wasn't giving it his all earlier this year, maybe/hopefully for you guys that's it and he is just being young and bitter.

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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Another point the article didn't make is that ouside of the howard monstrosity, the phils have done a pretty good job of not committing long term to aging players. ibanez is gone, polanco only has one year left, schneider is gone, etc. Most of their contracts are manageable. If they keep their payroll at the current level, they should be able to find free agents to replace these guys. Not the ideal strategy as having prospects to fill in is a better option, but it's not the end of the world either. especially if the kids they have in AAA (schwimmer, defratus, aumont, etc) can fill out the pen in the next year or so.
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    His head doesn't seem in it anymore

    Maybe he needs a mental break or something

    Not exactly someone I want added to the playoff roster at this point

    Some of those attempts were pitiful. Reminded of smalls just sticking his glove in the air hoping the ball would land in it. Yankees said they thought Montero was bored in the minor leagues and wasn't giving it his all earlier this year, maybe/hopefully for you guys that's it and he is just being young and bitter.

    smallscatch.jpg


    Yeah I could see that

    Going from the team with the best record in BB and now being thrown back into the doldrums of minor league ball where Im sure he believes he doesnt belong
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Fixer wrote:
    Another point the article didn't make is that ouside of the howard monstrosity, the phils have done a pretty good job of not committing long term to aging players. ibanez is gone, polanco only has one year left, schneider is gone, etc. Most of their contracts are manageable. If they keep their payroll at the current level, they should be able to find free agents to replace these guys. Not the ideal strategy as having prospects to fill in is a better option, but it's not the end of the world either. especially if the kids they have in AAA (schwimmer, defratus, aumont, etc) can fill out the pen in the next year or so.


    My buddy and I were talking today would you rather let Madson go and re-sign JRoll and then use Bastardo as your closer ?

    Or keep Madson and let Jroll walk ?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    His head doesn't seem in it anymore

    Maybe he needs a mental break or something

    Not exactly someone I want added to the playoff roster at this point

    Some of those attempts were pitiful. Reminded of smalls just sticking his glove in the air hoping the ball would land in it. Yankees said they thought Montero was bored in the minor leagues and wasn't giving it his all earlier this year, maybe/hopefully for you guys that's it and he is just being young and bitter.

    smallscatch.jpg


    Yeah I could see that

    Going from the team with the best record in BB and now being thrown back into the doldrums of minor league ball where Im sure he believes he doesnt belong

    Gotta keep in mind too that you are dealing with kids who have been the best at what they do their entire lives. I can't imagine what kind of prick I would be in that situation.
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Gotta keep in mind too that you are dealing with kids who have been the best at what they do their entire lives. I can't imagine what kind of prick I would be in that situation.


    Yeah..it would be tough to be modest and not a total dick :lol:

    Not like little league can be compared to the majors but when I played little league and high school I'll never forget the coach sitting us returning players aside and putting us in our place for just assuming we were all making the team

    Its definitely tough to keep your head clear and focused when you know how good you are
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    Another point the article didn't make is that ouside of the howard monstrosity, the phils have done a pretty good job of not committing long term to aging players. ibanez is gone, polanco only has one year left, schneider is gone, etc. Most of their contracts are manageable. If they keep their payroll at the current level, they should be able to find free agents to replace these guys. Not the ideal strategy as having prospects to fill in is a better option, but it's not the end of the world either. especially if the kids they have in AAA (schwimmer, defratus, aumont, etc) can fill out the pen in the next year or so.


    My buddy and I were talking today would you rather let Madson go and re-sign JRoll and then use Bastardo as your closer ?

    Or keep Madson and let Jroll walk ?

    Rollins > Madson IMO
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Another point the article didn't make is that ouside of the howard monstrosity, the phils have done a pretty good job of not committing long term to aging players. ibanez is gone, polanco only has one year left, schneider is gone, etc. Most of their contracts are manageable. If they keep their payroll at the current level, they should be able to find free agents to replace these guys. Not the ideal strategy as having prospects to fill in is a better option, but it's not the end of the world either. especially if the kids they have in AAA (schwimmer, defratus, aumont, etc) can fill out the pen in the next year or so.


    My buddy and I were talking today would you rather let Madson go and re-sign JRoll and then use Bastardo as your closer ?

    Or keep Madson and let Jroll walk ?

    Rollins > Madson IMO

    I agree...especially with Jimmy's defense he still makes plays

    Plus, add in Boras being Madson's agent I see a Werth scenario with some major over-bidding
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    My buddy and I were talking today would you rather let Madson go and re-sign JRoll and then use Bastardo as your closer ?

    Or keep Madson and let Jroll walk ?

    Rollins > Madson IMO

    I agree...especially with Jimmy's defense he still makes plays

    Plus, add in Boras being Madson's agent I see a Werth scenario with some major over-bidding

    yep, totally agree. plus I would never overpay for a closer

    in other news, it's pretty awesome that the dbags keep winning. looks like the phils are gonna get a first round bye
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    The Fixer wrote:
    My buddy and I were talking today would you rather let Madson go and re-sign JRoll and then use Bastardo as your closer ?

    Or keep Madson and let Jroll walk ?

    Rollins > Madson IMO

    I agree...especially with Jimmy's defense he still makes plays

    Plus, add in Boras being Madson's agent I see a Werth scenario with some major over-bidding

    ha...i just had the same conversation with someone at work. i'd resign rollins over madson too if it came down to it.



    i can't believe this team is sitting on 85 wins and it's not even september yet.
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    85 wins and they haven't had a healthy roster all year ?

    :o
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  • PureandEasy
    PureandEasy Posts: 5,818
    Here's another vote for keeping Rollins over Madsen

    I've always said, as Jimmy goes, the Phillies go

    it just seems that way anyway

    he is the heart of this team
    Don't come closer or I'll have to go
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    howard got an RBI on that play. if that doesn't prove how dumb RBI are then I don't know what does
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    I've never seen Polly struck out so much

    He must be hurting pretty bad
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    fucking seal hands
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    The Fixer wrote:
    howard got an RBI on that play. if that doesn't prove how dumb RBI are then I don't know what does

    But he could have struck-out or popped up and got no RBI at all and the score would be 0-0. It's a team game. If a guy can get to third with one out and another guy grounds out to get him, that's good teamwork.
    25 million dollars a year and you consider an RBI ground out to be a good thing?
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