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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    there are only 16 teams in the NL. being in the top 10 isn't anything special. they're still in the bottom half of most categories.

    the thing about this lineup is that it's a bunch of older players. a lot of them are still big names, but not the players they used to be. they could come around...hopefully they will. I'm just preparing myself for a repeat of last year's playoff frustration because the offense isn't as good as it was then.

    the thing that bothers me more than anything is the approach this team takes. garza was all over the place tonight and he still went 7 innings. utley and chooch are the only ones that know how to work a count. they really miss werth in that respect.

    Yeah but bottom-half of the NL isn't the end of the world when you've got pitching like this. You're right that the hitting has to come around for them to truly contend in October. But i just can't fathom all this talent is gonna fizzle out like this. And you're right that they're older. But as a unit, there's no reason that this group isn't giving SOME run support. I'll worry if they're still hitting like this a month from now.

    dude, they didn't hit at all in the playoffs last year. their lineup is worse this year. I don't know why you would expect things to magically change in sept/oct.

    not trying to be negative...I'd love reason to be more optimistic. I just have zero confidence in this lineup to win it all
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    The Fixer wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    there are only 16 teams in the NL. being in the top 10 isn't anything special. they're still in the bottom half of most categories.

    the thing about this lineup is that it's a bunch of older players. a lot of them are still big names, but not the players they used to be. they could come around...hopefully they will. I'm just preparing myself for a repeat of last year's playoff frustration because the offense isn't as good as it was then.

    the thing that bothers me more than anything is the approach this team takes. garza was all over the place tonight and he still went 7 innings. utley and chooch are the only ones that know how to work a count. they really miss werth in that respect.

    Yeah but bottom-half of the NL isn't the end of the world when you've got pitching like this. You're right that the hitting has to come around for them to truly contend in October. But i just can't fathom all this talent is gonna fizzle out like this. And you're right that they're older. But as a unit, there's no reason that this group isn't giving SOME run support. I'll worry if they're still hitting like this a month from now.

    dude, they didn't hit at all in the playoffs last year. their lineup is worse this year. I don't know why you would expect things to magically change in sept/oct.

    not trying to be negative...I'd love reason to be more optimistic. I just have zero confidence in this lineup to win it all

    I don't expect anything. I'm just hoping. But I don't have zero confidence like you do. Or maybe I'm just delusional enough to think they can pitch their way to a title.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,359
    The Fixer wrote:
    not trying to be negative...I'd love reason to be more optimistic. I just have zero confidence in this lineup to win it all

    They hit pretty well in Citi Field which is always a challenge. Hey it's something.
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  • The Fixer
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    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    not trying to be negative...I'd love reason to be more optimistic. I just have zero confidence in this lineup to win it all

    They hit pretty well in Citi Field which is always a challenge. Hey it's something.

    I'm holding out hope that something good happens by the trade deadline.

    It's also good that if the standing stay the same that they won't have to face SF or ATL in round 1. Hello Pittsburgh!!
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    not trying to be negative...I'd love reason to be more optimistic. I just have zero confidence in this lineup to win it all

    They hit pretty well in Citi Field which is always a challenge. Hey it's something.
    to bad the mets suck and won't even sniff the playoffs. that be an easy playoff sweep for you guys. lol.
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  • 81
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    Time for the phillies vaunted offense to go to work vs the flubs bullpen

    Uh oh...quick hit by the phillies
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Okay...set up for Utley and Howard.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Nice!
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  • The Fixer
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    I fucking love utley
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Wheeler called Howard's AB a "productive at-bat" cause Utley moved up a base.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Wheeler called Howard's AB a "productive at-bat" cause Utley moved up a base.

    haha, I missed that. I have developed a way of zoning him out. now if I could figure out a way to eliminate mccarthys fake laugh
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,359
    The Fixer wrote:
    I fucking love utley

    That was clutch. Seems like this guy Marshall's ERA is rather misleading.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    I don't know if we brought it up in here, but with all the talk about trading Brown for Pence straight up - do you think an Upton(BJ) for Brown straight up would work for Tampa? I'd do that.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    I don't know if we brought it up in here, but with all the talk about trading Brown for Pence straight up - do you think an Upton(BJ) for Brown straight up would work for Tampa? I'd do that.

    even though I'd be bitching about upton by labor day, I'd do that trade as well.

    I think a big market like philly would be good for upton. he would have no choice but to play hard all the time or get eaten alive
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    I don't know if we brought it up in here, but with all the talk about trading Brown for Pence straight up - do you think an Upton(BJ) for Brown straight up would work for Tampa? I'd do that.

    even though I'd be bitching about upton by labor day, I'd do that trade as well.

    I think a big market like philly would be good for upton. he would have no choice but to play hard all the time or get eaten alive

    Yeah, that's the same way I feel, but at the same time he's the toolsy-type guy like Brown, but already proven. And young.

    I'm pretty sure it was him or Crawford who couldn't take the crowd on him during the World Series.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    And another thing - was Singleton 17 when he graduated high school? Just looking up his numbers, and he started rookie ball at the age of 17? Damn.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    Listen to that Philly crowd in Chi-town. :thumbup:
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    That's how ya do it.
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  • The Juggler
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    WOOOO!
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited July 2011
    jp--i gotta hand it to your girl. that stern performance was pretty incredible. she has an amazing voice
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