Holy Shit! Cubs Get Rich Harden!

Drop The Leash 10

WindyCityFlyer wrote:

Well we're pretty much on pace right now...at least moreso than the Brewers or the Cards.



The Cubs only need to go 42-31 the rest of the season to get to 95, which will more than likely, win the divison.

yeah but dont count out the cards, they can get very hot. and the brewers are set up for alot of wins. no doubt they will make the playoffs but now every game against the cards and brewcrew means a hell of alot more.

WindyCityFlyer

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

yeah but dont count out the cards, they can get very hot. and the brewers are set up for alot of wins. no doubt they will make the playoffs but now every game against the cards and brewcrew means a hell of alot more.

Yeah, but look at this rotation now:

Zambrano
Harden
Dempster
Lilly
Marquis/Marshall


That's pretty impressive and Lilly could be a number 2 on a bunch of teams. Cubs are working with VERY quality stuff now a days.

And The Cubs should have swept the Cards last weekend. We won the series and I'm not worried about them at Wrigely.

gregkitefan

I'm happy because I have Gallagher on my fantasy team.
He'll start every fifth day now on the A's.

WindyCityFlyer

gregkitefan wrote:

I'm happy because I have Gallagher on my fantasy team.
He'll start every fifth day now on the A's.

Please tell me there are like 70 people in your league.

Drop The Leash 10

WindyCityFlyer wrote:

Please tell me there are like 70 people in your league.

HAHAHAHA beat me to it

gregkitefan

WindyCityFlyer wrote:

Please tell me there are like 70 people in your league.

12 team league.
We carry 30 players.
He is my 11th starting pitcher.

mattcozea

mca47 wrote:

He's also not going to have to pick up as many innings per start as the Cubs pen is considerably better than the A's. That should allow less stress on a fragile arm.

He's averaging 5.9 IP/G, hardly stressful.

he still stands

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

well you kind of need him TO GET to the postseason

nope. no worries about getting to the postseason either way. The Cardinals are going to fall way off in the 2nd half... finishing with about 84 wins. The Brewers will be right there and it might be close, but either AT LEAST a Wild CArd berth is almost inevitable.

jackrabbit slim

Harden is great....when he's healthy
The reality is you just picked up Mark Prior part II.

WindyCityFlyer

jackrabbit slim wrote:

Harden is great....when he's healthy
The reality is you just picked up Mark Prior part II.

That's a horrible comparision. Maybe Mark Prior from 2003. But he's been far more reliable than Mark Prior in the last 3 years.


He's healthy now, and that's all that matters.

Wobbie

Cubs......Sox.....Yankees. ARGHHHHHH!!!!!

Just bummed that my team is irrelevant :mad:

WindyCityFlyer

imalive wrote:

Cubs......Sox.....Yankees. ARGHHHHHH!!!!!

Just bummed that my team is irrelevant :mad:

Who is your team?

eddievedder1977

WindyCityFlyer wrote:

That's a horrible comparision. Maybe Mark Prior from 2003. But he's been far more reliable than Mark Prior in the last 3 years.


He's healthy now, and that's all that matters.

Its not THAT far off. Both have/had awesome potential, both have/had been on the DL way too many fucking times. Harden has six trips to the DL in 6yrs, and wasn't one of them just like a month ago? Certainly at least he's pitched in the majors the last few years unlike Prior, but Harden staying healthy is a MAJOR concern of mine. When he pitches, he is awesome, but gotta keep him healthy no question.

That said, even with the injury risk, Cubs didn't have to give up jack to get him. Gallagher was fine and good, but to get a guy of Harden's caliber you've got to let at least 1 starting pitcher go in return. I'm just surprised it was only one. AND we got Chad Gaudin in return who can make an immediate impact in solidifying the bullpen. So even if Gallagher-Gaudin is a wash, they still only had to drop Matt Murton, Eric Patterson, and a minor league catcher hitting 215 to get Harden!

Murton had shown an ability to hit for average at the major league level, I think 297 his rookie campaign. But he can't hit for power, is nothing special in the field, and isn't too quick either. Patterson, I'm glad to get rid of, if only to no longer have anyone from his family associated with the Cubs. His brother was a huge bust on the Cubs, and stuck around way too fucking long. And I feared Eric would be more of the same. He's got the tools, but until he learns to take a walk and catch a flyball (if he's playing OF anyways), he won't do jack in the majors.

A- for Jim Hendry

WindyCityFlyer

eddievedder1977 wrote:

Its not THAT far off. Both have/had awesome potential, both have/had been on the DL way too many fucking times. Harden has six trips to the DL in 6yrs, and wasn't one of them just like a month ago? Certainly at least he's pitched in the majors the last few years unlike Prior, but Harden staying healthy is a MAJOR concern of mine. When he pitches, he is awesome, but gotta keep him healthy no question.


A- for Jim Hendry

No doubt. But the fact is that Prior is DONE. Like for real DONE. While Harden is coming off what seems to be his best season ina while in terms of durability.

No question that health is an issue, but it seems like this is the season where maybe he can manage.

my2hands

jackrabbit slim wrote:

Harden is great....when he's healthy
The reality is you just picked up Mark Prior part II.

+1

eddievedder1977

WindyCityFlyer wrote:

No doubt. But the fact is that Prior is DONE. Like for real DONE. While Harden is coming off what seems to be his best season ina while in terms of durability.

No question that health is an issue, but it seems like this is the season where maybe he can manage.

Definitely man, Prior is, and has been, done for awhile. So sad, he had so much potential. I thought Wood was finished too, but he really resurrected his career as the closer. Props to Lou for making that move and Demp to the rotation, neither I thought would work, both have been huge in helping the Cubs have the NL lead.

But yeah, still, Harden's injuries scares me. Even more.....working under Larry Rothchild. Hopefully he doesn't fuck up his shit too much!

Fighting Hellfish

wow. I was shocked to hear about this, even though rumors were out there for a while. I can't say much about the deal, as I don't know anything about the package the A's got back. Billy Beane usually does very well with these trades. time will tell. Just look at getting haren for Mulder. too bad he then had to flip haren a few years later. Anyway, I really like the trade for the Cubs. If harden wasn't such an injury risk, I'd love it for them. when is his contract up? this isn't a "rental" is it?

Fighting Hellfish

By the way, I'm a Yankee fan, and I love to see teams like the Cubs and the Brewers getting involved in these deals, and being aggressive. It makes me kinda sick when a player like this is available, and it's always either the yankees, The Red Sox, or The Mets, with one or 2 fliers like the Dodgers or the Angels involved

Boomer

expect him to be shut down come September Cubs fans...

Lostdoggie

Harden's velocity was down in his last 2 starts so he could have a "dead arm" ,and he is always one pitch away from going on the DL.

Other then that the guy is great, among the best in the majors.