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  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    kh65 wrote:
    Some people don't believe that, though. They can't explain it but they think everything just sprang to life one day.

    Right.... I get what you are saying.

    I think it is unfortunate that "Elite Science" and the Religious elite don't work together... Science shouldn't try to nullify religion and vice versa.

    The ultimate paradox is that our society is advancing faster than ever before, and we continue to give ourselves more questions to answer!!!
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  • kh65
    kh65 Posts: 946
    he still stands wrote:
    Right.... I get what you are saying.

    I think it is unfortunate that "Elite Science" and the Religious elite don't work together... Science shouldn't try to nullify religion and vice versa.

    The ultimate paradox is that our society is advancing faster than ever before, and we continue to give ourselves more questions to answer!!!
    Well said. :) This is my view as well.
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  • mattcozea
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    kh65 wrote:
    Some people don't believe that, though. They can't explain it but they think everything just sprang to life one day.
    Who says it didn't? Stop being so closed minded. ;)
    he still stands wrote:
    I think it is unfortunate that "Elite Science" and the Religious elite don't work together... Science shouldn't try to nullify religion and vice versa.

    The ultimate paradox is that our society is advancing faster than ever before, and we continue to give ourselves more questions to answer!!!
    Science is more than open to religion, most of our greatest scientists have been devout believers in God or some higher power. They even find that the pursuit of knowledge enhances their beliefs.
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
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    urbanhippie wrote:
    I thought you were staying out of this thread :p

    I'm nothing if not a compulsive liar. :p
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  • kh65
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    mattcoz wrote:
    Who says it didn't? Stop being so closed minded. ;)
    Even the most ardent evolution scientists can't explain how life actually started.
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  • eyedclaar
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    kh65 wrote:
    Some people don't believe that, though. They can't explain it but they think everything just sprang to life one day.


    I think you are confusing evolution with creationism... oh wait, that took 7 days.
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
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    kh65 wrote:
    Even the most ardent evolution scientists can't explain how life actually started.

    I think the problem with saying "God did it" is that it's an easy cop-out at this point. If people are so sure there's a god that created, why can't they sit back let science objectively prove it?
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  • urbanhippie
    urbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    kh65 wrote:
    Even the most ardent evolution scientists can't explain how life actually started.
    A religious person may explain it but they have no proof...

    It's a case of 6 and two 3's and try as we might, it'll never change...
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  • kh65
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    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I think the problem with saying "God did it" is that it's an easy cop-out at this point. If people are so sure there's a god that created, why can't they sit back let science objectively prove it?
    The job of science is not to prove anything but to disprove things. My belief is that we will never know how life began and we can never prove that.

    I still say let the bums die out. :)
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  • civ_eng_girl
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    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Because humanity isn't something we want to evolve out of?

    :) well said :)
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  • urbanhippie
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    kh65 wrote:
    The job of science is not to prove anything but to disprove things. My belief is that we will never know how life began and we can never prove that.

    I still say let the bums die out. :)
    Best pray you never get sick then ;)
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  • libragirl
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    kh65 wrote:
    Why is it that people that push evolution also support welfare and other "entitlement" (btw, you're not entitled to anything) programs? Why try to fight nature and let the weaker less productive human capital die off?

    hmmm...Im not sure how to respond to this.
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  • mattcozea
    mattcozea Posts: 377
    kh65 wrote:
    Even the most ardent evolution scientists can't explain how life actually started.
    You're right, but they're not trying to.
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  • he still stands
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    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I think the problem with saying "God did it" is that it's an easy cop-out at this point. If people are so sure there's a god that created, why can't they sit back let science objectively prove it?

    Science prove how life started? I have to disagree that there is even a possibility in our lifetime, or even our great grandchildren's lifetime, that this question can be answered. But I agree, nobody should be trying to stop science from answering these questions.

    Who knows... maybe 500 years from now our descendants will look back at evolution and think of it the same we think of... "bleeding out diseases" in medicine 500 years ago. Every generation thinks they have the answers... but every generation should be open minded.
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  • kh65
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    urbanhippie wrote:
    Best pray you never get sick then ;)
    Sorry, those are the words of NASA scientist Roy Spencer.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
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    kh65 wrote:
    The job of science is not to prove anything but to disprove things. My belief is that we will never know how life began and we can never prove that.

    I still say let the bums die out. :)


    What qualifies one as a bum is subjective and also depends on what exactly one is bankrupt of...
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
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    he still stands wrote:
    Science prove how life started? I have to disagree that there is even a possibility in our lifetime, or even our great grandchildren's lifetime, that this question can be answered. But I agree, nobody should be trying to stop science from answering these questions.

    Who knows... maybe 500 years from now our descendants will look back at evolution and think of it the same we think of... "bleeding out diseases" in medicine 500 years ago. Every generation thinks they have the answers... but every generation should be open minded.

    I wasn't saying that science is gonna prove it any time soon - I was just saying that to stop trying to prove it because God probably did it would be folly.

    And I got to say "folly". :)
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  • mattcozea
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    kh65 wrote:
    The job of science is not to prove anything but to disprove things.
    Oh you couldn't be more wrong. Science is all about the pursuit of knowledge and advancing our understanding of the world around us.

    You obviously believe that God(or some higher power) created life... why wouldn't learning more about that creation excite you?
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  • urbanhippie
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    kh65 wrote:
    Sorry, those are the words of NASA scientist Roy Spencer.
    Well forgive my ignorance :p

    I'm just saying that often the least productive people have reasons for being so and if given the right 'resources' can become productive members of society again...
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  • he still stands
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    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    What qualifies one as a bum is subjective and also depends on what exactly one is bankrupt of...

    But if one isn't conforming to society... you know... eating/shitting/buying/dying.... they don't have a place on this earth!!!
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