Vince Young = Drama Queen

Poncier

pjhawks wrote:

or maybe McNabb was cheated out of his super bowl..

How? Someone spiked his Chunky Soup causing him to ralph all over the field?
I thought he just gaggged the opportunity late in the game away, my bad.

Wobbie

Gremmie95 wrote:

Cunningham (the original double threat), Vick, McNabb, Akili Smith, etc.....0 championships. All were thought to be the next generation of QB's.

You know where this is going? :eek:

LONGRD

Gremmie95 wrote:

Sorry, I still don't buy the whole double threat behind center. Young had great success in college because he was the best athlete on the field pretty much every game. The NFL is too fast and hit to hard for guys like this to win the championship. Pure pocket passers are still the way to go.

Need some examples?

Cunningham (the original double threat), Vick, McNabb, Young, Akili Smith, etc.....0 championships. All were thought to be the next generation of QB's. I'll give McNabb credit, he came close....but folded when the game was on the line.

McNabb can throw much better the other guys. Plus, McNabb has become more of a Steve Young-type player, choosing to run when necessary.

LONGRD

imalive wrote:

You know where this is going? :eek:

He forgot to mention Steve Young. That's all.

madtowndave

I am a TN fan, so I want him to succeed, but this is too much. He had too much coddling at TX, and Fisher isn't going to baby him. He needs to grow up and be a man. His mom's comments to ESPN don't help at all.

dg1979us

Gremmie95 wrote:

Sorry, I still don't buy the whole double threat behind center. Young had great success in college because he was the best athlete on the field pretty much every game. The NFL is too fast and hit to hard for guys like this to win the championship. Pure pocket passers are still the way to go.

From what I understand he wasnt the coaching staff or GMs choice, it was Bud Adam's who wanted him to kind of stick it to the city of Houston. I think Fisher wanted Cutler or Lienart. That being said, if he could get his shit together I think he could be a great player, but I hear he isnt the hardest worker in the world, and it seems he has some psych issues.

What is sad is that I think the Titans are a serious superbowl contender with washed up Kerry Collins playing QB, but the defense has to do everything in their power to win games that Vince almost single handedly loses when he is behind center.

pjhawks

Poncier wrote:

How? Someone spiked his Chunky Soup causing him to ralph all over the field?
I thought he just gaggged the opportunity late in the game away, my bad.

let's see Bellicheck is caught cheating by the NFL, they review tapes of this game and destroy them...hmmm possibly evidence they cheated in a Super Bowl - once a cheater always a cheater.

Poncier

pjhawks wrote:

let's see Bellicheck is caught cheating by the NFL, they review tapes of this game and destroy them...hmmm possibly evidence they cheated in a Super Bowl - once a cheater always a cheater.

Time to let it go Senator Specter

Gremmie95

LongRd. wrote:

He forgot to mention Steve Young. That's all.

I'll give you that, BUT, Steve looked to pass first and run only when needed, which he did very effectively. We could say the same for Elway early on.

As far as "going anywhere" with it, I assume you are meaning I mentioned only black quarterbacks. Well, how many slow, cement footed, white boys have you seen drafted as a double threat? Exactly.

Gremmie95

pjhawks wrote:

let's see Bellicheck is caught cheating by the NFL, they review tapes of this game and destroy them...hmmm possibly evidence they cheated in a Super Bowl - once a cheater always a cheater.

Every team in the NFL video tapes, Patriots just got caught and his boy in New York wanted to stick it to his former boss. SOUR GRAPES!

Jason P

Just think if Vince had to spend a week in Rex Grossman's shoes! Yowza!

pjhawks

Gremmie95 wrote:

Every team in the NFL video tapes, Patriots just got caught and his boy in New York wanted to stick it to his former boss. SOUR GRAPES!

not to rehash old arguments but if every one does it why was only one team penalized for it?

Gremmie95

pjhawks wrote:

not to rehash old arguments but if every one does it why was only one team penalized for it?

They got caught.

Pacomc79

pjhawks wrote:

not to rehash old arguments but if every one does it why was only one team penalized for it?

it occured after the league sent out a memo detailing exactly what would be considered out of compliance with the rules and warned of fines.

This is like being warned ahead of time about a drug test, and blowing it off, that's why the fine was so severe.

They were made an example of because they were the first ones to get caught blatenly defying what the league specifically told everyone not to do anymore.

pjhawks

Pacomc79 wrote:

it occured after the league sent out a memo detailing exactly what would be considered out of compliance with the rules and warned of fines.

This is like being warned ahead of time about a drug test, and blowing it off, that's why the fine was so severe.

They were made an example of because they were the first ones to get caught blatenly defying what the league specifically told everyone not to do anymore.

ergo they are convicted cheaters and there is a possibility they cheated to beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

eyedclaar

pjhawks wrote:

ergo they are convicted cheaters and there is a possibility they cheated to beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

And the Rams. And I assume by "possibility" you mean "almost certainly".