DOG people - HELP!!!!!

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,402
    i'm not doubting the vet

    I jsut think people were being nice telling you things that they have tried, you could have been nice also read it and moved on

    thats all


    either way i say liver works well

    good luck

    They were being nice - no doubt. I appreciated any and all advice. I was just trying to get "back on track." Thanks, everyone :p!! Gracie is sleeping and has only had one more runny poop. A definite improvement over last night :D.
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  • Dead Man Walking
    Dead Man Walking Toronto-ish Posts: 2,762
    this may sound silly but my vet (a really old dude that has been around and knows all the tricks) suggested we feed our dog (boston terrier) plain rice and cooked ground beef with a little bit of pepto bismol mixed into it...It worked like a charm...
  • SENROCK
    SENROCK Posts: 10,736
    imalive wrote:
    If you don't already know 17 week old Gracie from ~*~*~the doggie thread~*~*~, here she is:

    http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll56/ddgrh8r/DSC_0174.jpg
    im *officially* in puppy love again. *sigh*
    awwww i hope little gracie grace gets better! Surf NEVER liked to take pills. I hadd to fight with him or chop them up and add it to the canned food. Dry food he would pick the pills out of there and grub everything else. He loved the canned food on occasion so i added them in there. Try that. See what happens.
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  • Urban Hiker
    Urban Hiker Posts: 1,312
    That's an adorable pup. Hope she gets well soon.

    I use the shove and hold method for pills. I feel most comfortable with it, 'cause I can tell right away that they've swallowed it.

    I just pry their mouth open, shove the pill as far back and to the center of their throat as possible, quickly shut the jaw, hold it and say, "SWALLOW". Done. :)
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  • jecica
    jecica Posts: 954
    I used to work at an animal hospital and for the dogs that needed pills that couldn't eat we did this:

    Tools: Pill, syringe (you can buy one at the kitchen store)

    1. Fill up the syringe with water and have it close by to grab.
    2. Pry the dogs mouth open and throw the pill to the back of the throat.
    3. Close the dogs mouth as quick as possible so they can't spit it out. At this point they are going to struggle so you have act quick and don't let go of their muzzle.
    4. Take the syringe and force it under their lips towards the corner of their mouth. Squeeze all the water in the syringe into their mouth really quick.
    5. Repeat if necessary.

    This does get messy, but it forces them to swallow the water and the pill at the same time. The more you do it, the less messy it is.

    Good luck, they can be stubborn.
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Lukin has had several bad turns with tummy bugs and has had to take meds.

    The vet immediately put him on a bland diet of plain boiled rice and plain boiled chicken breasts or thighs, NO SKIN. SO in order to get the pills into him I would just get a nice chunk of boiled chicken breast put a little slice into it and stuff the pill into that then hand feed it to him. He'd eat it with no problem. Maybe that would work? :)
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  • ciaochow
    ciaochow Posts: 97
    Good suggestions above - one more note is, if you're giving her pills wrapped in weiner or cheese, give her a piece without the meat/cheese first. And, what works with my dogs, is if I make them think they earned it (and not a free treat which might make them suspicious). So, I make them lay down or shake a paw and then make a big excited noise and give them the treat.

    Hope she feels better soon!
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,402
    Thanks to all you cool folks :D!!!!

    The "disguises" don't work on Gracie. We are now going with the "cram it down her throat" approach and that gets the job done. I just hope the pills settle the poor thing's little tummy! Thanks, again.
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  • Whizbang
    Whizbang Posts: 1,314
    imalive wrote:
    If you don't already know 17 week old Gracie from ~*~*~the doggie thread~*~*~, here she is:

    http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll56/ddgrh8r/DSC_0174.jpg

    Last night she started to have bad diarrhea. She had 8 runny poops within 12 hours, puked in her crate and then puked again this morning. I took her to the vet and they were kinda baffled. The good thing is, Gracie is not acting sick (other than the obvious). The vet took a stomach x-ray and there may or may not be a problem in there. We have another x-ray scheduled for tomorrow.

    My question is this: Gracie now needs 5 pills daily and I just struggled to get her to take the first two. She wasn't impressed with peanut butter or when I powdered the pills and mixed them with a teeny bit of wet food. Anyone know any tricks? Grated cheese made into a ball might work - I'll try that next. Prayers and suggestions would be much appreciated!!!! :D

    Is she still getting sick? runs or vomiting? So long as any blood work your vet may have done showed as normal and the x-rays didn't show any signs of blockage, stop paying your vet for a bit. ;)

    If she still has the runs, they will not go away if you keep feeding her (even if it's the meds). As with humans, the lower intestinal tract of a canine does 2 things very well - digests food and corrects itself. BUT....it cannot do both at the same time. As bad as you will feel when she looks at you with those puppy eyes, don't fee her for a full 24hours. Let her have water of course but no food - treats, human or otherwise (she will survive but not before your eyes get a little teary when she looks at you "why aren't you feeding me?"). Then put her back on a regular eating schedule, maybe cutting back on how much you give her the first 2 meals. Sure, you could give her a bland diet of chicken & rice but her food already is bland....may as well give her what her system is used to.

    The first time I brought one of my dogs to my vet for being sick with the runs, after he gave her a brief exam and she was otherwise healthy looking, he gave me the advice above. They've both been sick like that since and and a 24hr stint with no food fixed it....with no vet bill.

    Vomiting could have been the result of her being stressed over having the runs or her body's way of eliminating the last of a stomach bug she might have had. If she vomited as many times as she pooped, I would be concerned as it could mean a blockage of some sort (my oldest at a hair scrunchie one time, I'm glad she puke it up as those can get twisted around the intestine). Plus she could get dehydrated losing all that fluid.

    Giving her pills...if she's no longer getting sick, crush them up good and dissolve in some water in her food. Neither of mine know the difference with that. Sometimes a little table scraps mixed in helps.

    good luck!
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Poor Gracie! I hope she is getting better.

    I lost my dog Pete in February at the age of 14. He had epilepsy for many years and had to take pills twice a day. I've had other dogs who had to take medications at different times. For some of them the pill at the back of the throat worked best. Pete took his pills in peanut butter just fine.

    The dog I have right now, Django, won't take pills with peanut butter. But I got something from my vet called Pill Pockets. They are liver flavored. They were too expensive for me to buy them for Pete everyday for years. But when Django had to take pills for a couple of weeks he just scarfed up the Pill Pockets. I've also seen them for sale at Petsmart.
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  • Cree Nations
    Cree Nations Posts: 2,247
    Jasper would take anything wrapped in cheese, I did have to give him some big pills once that he would kind of spit out of the cheese but then I crushed them up and rolled them up on the cheese slice.
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  • SENROCK
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    Jeanie wrote:
    Lukin has had several bad turns with tummy bugs and has had to take meds.

    The vet immediately put him on a bland diet of plain boiled rice and plain boiled chicken breasts or thighs, NO SKIN. SO in order to get the pills into him I would just get a nice chunk of boiled chicken breast put a little slice into it and stuff the pill into that then hand feed it to him. He'd eat it with no problem. Maybe that would work? :)

    I was meaning to ask you how Lukin is doing!!! Please post pics!!!!
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  • gobrowns19
    gobrowns19 Posts: 1,447
    Cute dog! Hope she's doing ok!
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  • eek

    sounds a bit much

    not that comfy for the pup
    she might get scared


    jecica wrote:
    I used to work at an animal hospital and for the dogs that needed pills that couldn't eat we did this:

    Tools: Pill, syringe (you can buy one at the kitchen store)

    1. Fill up the syringe with water and have it close by to grab.
    2. Pry the dogs mouth open and throw the pill to the back of the throat.
    3. Close the dogs mouth as quick as possible so they can't spit it out. At this point they are going to struggle so you have act quick and don't let go of their muzzle.
    4. Take the syringe and force it under their lips towards the corner of their mouth. Squeeze all the water in the syringe into their mouth really quick.
    5. Repeat if necessary.

    This does get messy, but it forces them to swallow the water and the pill at the same time. The more you do it, the less messy it is.

    Good luck, they can be stubborn.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    awwww first off, your doggy is too cute!

    i don't know what to say as i (fortunately) have never had to give my dog vitamins or pills.


    i haven't read the thread but, have you thought of what you're feeding her? i mean, my dog got sick when we gave her wet food. they say that the canned dog food is better for your dog and all that, but mine would get sick. we give her tuna now, and she loves it. my moms family has always had dogs, and always gave them human food (with exceptions of course). i think the whole dog food thing is for money, personally.

    maybe a switch in diet?
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    oh and, good luck to you!
    i hope shes okay!!!!
    ill tell my doggy to send her prayers to the doggy gods for a quick recovery for your pooch :)
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  • SENROCK
    SENROCK Posts: 10,736
    Rob i just posted this in the doggie thread too. Its from Pedigree and was in my mailboxxx!!!!


    Adult
    What’s the best way to give my dog a pill?


    Getting your pooch to take medicine prescribed by your veterinarian can be tricky, but there are some ways to get the medicine down the hatch more easily. Next time you have to give your pet a pill, try one or more of these proven methods:

    * Crush the pill and stir in with food or a treat. Ask your vet before doing this to be sure it won't interfere with how the medicine works.

    * Coat the pill with butter, cream cheese, or peanut butter to make it slide down easily.

    * Ask your veterinarian about a pill pusher or a pill gun.

    * Look for a new product called pill pockets. These are soft and hollow treats that are designed with a pocket that conceals the medicine.

    * Just like fruit-flavored aspirin or vitamins now available for children, pills and liquids can be flavored by pharmacists to taste like your pup's favorite meat. Just ask your pharmacist.

    If your dog is sick and not eating, try holding your pet in a towel, cradled like a baby, or straddle him from behind. Flick the pill to the back of its throat. Then rub his throat, an action that will urge him to swallow.
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  • PJaddicted
    PJaddicted Posts: 1,432
    I put my dog in a sit, hold his upper jaw with one hand and push a butter coated pill to the back of his tongue and let him just swallow it. Petey has been on meds multiple times in his short 22 months, several times due to diarrhea at the same age as Gracie. Petey has IBS and can't eat dog food. He has been Raw fed since 20 weeks old, and no stomach problems since.

    When she can eat again,I'd feed her boiled lean meat like chicken and turkey with rice should help bind her up. Pumpkin is good, but only canned pureed pumpkin, not the kind that is spiced up for pie. That can be given everyday....it is good for them. TBS a day.

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