I'll try to short...On Monday was my patients birthday and he turned 91. He's a very, very wealthy man and a man who has everything. So I came up with the idea of giving him a dancer in a sexy policewoman out fit, posing to give him a ticket for parking his Bentley in the handicap section while I trained him in the gym.
While I watched out at the door the dancer did her thing and then some. Things got a bit raunchy to say the least in several ways. This lasted 10 minutes and he appeared to not get enough, I was scared out of my mind cause even at 91 he still carries a ton of power and clout.
I knew he was and is a freaky man but damn not to that extent. The dancer told him, "will I see you next year on your birthday"? He said, "hell yes". Anyway, throughout the rest of the day he never said a word about it until I was putting him to bed he said to me, "thank you for the birthday gift best I've ever had in some time". He hasn't said a word since except he seems to be daydreaming quite a bit since then.
Was this an appropriate thing to do in that he's married?
Go easy with your responses now, I was only trying give him a little fun.
Peace
sorry to but in here........but that is really funny and cool......I am not the guy's wife (obviously) but I do think you were very creative.......
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Yes, he has 3 children, 4 grand kids and 2 twin great grand children. I mainly did cause he's ALL over the many other wealthy women he meets and I gather this is understood with them and his wife. His wife just doesn't give him enough in the 3 years I've been his nurse.
Also with his age I don't really really know how long he'll be around and I'm the only one daring enough to attempt something like this to a man with this huge stature.
Peace
maybe if the wife got paid she would........like the dancer chick.......sorry that is really still funny.......I just get bad images thinking of a 91 yr old in that way........
but come to think of it, I don't think of anyone that I can think of (that I know) that I want to think of in that way, I guess.......
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
It doesn't really bother me, I guess. I just don't get it.
I used to be a carer and if I ordered a stripper, most of the kids would be so angry and I'd have gotten the boot!
yeah, how many of us have taken our clothes off for ...free????????
something to think about.....
and how many people can say someone would actually pay them for their sexual favors??????
I know that IS A WEIRD STATEMENT, but I am 44 and I do not think that even in the most desperate of times, I could get money for sex, unless maybe I take, "guys with teeth" out of my list of credentials..........
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
yeah, how many of us have taken our clothes off for ...free????????
something to think about.....
and how many people can say someone would actually pay them for their sexual favors??????
I know that IS A WEIRD STATEMENT, but I am 44 and I do not think that even in the most desperate of times, I could get money for sex, unless maybe I take, "guys with teeth" out of my list of credentials..........
no, (It's normally to shut him up)
no,
and I didn't get the last bit.
no, (It's normally to shut him up)
no,
and I didn't get the last bit.
what I meant, I guess, is that I know that girls who strip or hook for a living do not have the career of choice......well, you know what I mean, I am trying to not be judgemental or anything because it can sound that way if I say that I would not do that, or that it is a bad thing to do, etc. and I want to be careful not to insult anyone here or anywhere........
but then I wanted to introduce the idea that getting paid for having sex or stripping or whatever, would say that what you have or can do could make you money, and when you think about it, really think about it......could what you do or have really make you money if you put yourself in that world? For me, that is what that meant..........not about you or anyone else and then I meant that maybe I could, if my standards of a guy would change.......it was just a put down for me, which meant that yeah, maybe toothless guys might pay me for it............
and no, I am not that bad looking but I would not exactly think I could get paid for my looks.......but I am harder on myself than others........
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I recognize I'm kindof "square", but are we all playing along? Or am I the only one that doesn't believe this?
There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
I recognize I'm kindof "square", but are we all playing along? Or am I the only one that doesn't believe this?
I always have a hard time knowing that and I have been on these threads before and I always end up stumped when someone tells me it was a joke or whatever..........gullible I suppose????????
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I think you are looking at this all wrong. Depending on perspective, it can be viewed a lot differently than you are looking at it.
I am a male and a licensed therapist, and I have provided therapy for women who had dabbled in exotic dancing and some who did it more hard core, as in for many years. I think the more hard core cases would fall into the category that you describe, and those are some very sad souls. Some I have worked with danced their way through college, only working in elite clubs and keeping everything on the up and up. They describe the experience as very empowering. They often say that they get on stage and are able to completely control the audience. They are able to lure men into the private dance area where they can "sell" personal dance after personal dance, while basically owning the man who they are dancing for. Those that don't let men cross the line and do things that they are not allowed to do (touching, etc.) can hold their head up high at the end of a shift and know that they turned their audience into instant ATM machines, and were able to suck money out of them (okay, maybe not the best choice of words here!).
They know how to fool men into thinking that they are special, and not like very Tom, Dick and Harry in the club. Those men feel special, and treat the dancers well.... and then a couple of hundred dollars later, they leave feeling good about themselves.
True, this is not every dancer out there... but to generalize that all of the girls that take their clothes off for money are pathetic, I would argue that the pathetic people are the ones who are forking over their mortgage payments just to feel special.
Okay, rant over. Just wanted to put another perspective out there for you to consider.
For those who scoff at "Jamily" in my name... 9 years ago, when my first daughter was born there were jokes about whether my priority would be my family or PJ. I smiled and quipped "I am a JamilyMan." What was a family joke became a hated term among jammers. Didn't see that one coming!
I think you are looking at this all wrong. Depending on perspective, it can be viewed a lot differently than you are looking at it.
I am a male and a licensed therapist, and I have provided therapy for women who had dabbled in exotic dancing and some who did it more hard core, as in for many years. I think the more hard core cases would fall into the category that you describe, and those are some very sad souls. Some I have worked with danced their way through college, only working in elite clubs and keeping everything on the up and up. They describe the experience as very empowering. They often say that they get on stage and are able to completely control the audience. They are able to lure men into the private dance area where they can "sell" personal dance after personal dance, while basically owning the man who they are dancing for. Those that don't let men cross the line and do things that they are not allowed to do (touching, etc.) can hold their head up high at the end of a shift and know that they turned their audience into instant ATM machines, and were able to suck money out of them (okay, maybe not the best choice of words here!).
They know how to fool men into thinking that they are special, and not like very Tom, Dick and Harry in the club. Those men feel special, and treat the dancers well.... and then a couple of hundred dollars later, they leave feeling good about themselves.
True, this is not every dancer out there... but to generalize that all of the girls that take their clothes off for money are pathetic, I would argue that the pathetic people are the ones who are forking over their mortgage payments just to feel special.
Okay, rant over. Just wanted to put another perspective out there for you to consider.
no, thanks......that is exactly what I was trying to say but I couldn't figure out how to. There is a certain power I think, given that the girl has a good head on her shoulders and works it right.........you know,........even when a girl is not doing this for a living, when she is just dating or whatever she is wise when she knows her power. And while I would differ on my advice for my daughter, I do wish I knew this when I was a younger woman......
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
She told me later that no clothes were removed however he did get excited surprised her and buried himself in her boobs. No clothes were removed and I did say dancer right. Well she's a person he knows very well she was his physical trainer 5 years ago. She now trains his wife.
Also no money was exchanged. Thanks PJ fans for your overwhelming response. I'll try and read through some of what you've posted.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
It was maybe a little reckless due to his age (but if he is in good health, then not as much)
also, the appropriateness is a bit off since you are an employee of his, and not a friend. A friendly employee - but not someone who should be able to procure anything with a sexual nature.
But since he enjoyed himself, and you felt that it would be a good gift (seeingas how you KNOW him well enough to make that judgment call) I would say, it was nice of you to do.
and i am glad that the old dude didn't get a blood soaked trouser shower as a result of being ears deep in bewbies...because that would have made this whole gift idea a bad move, and maybe a gift card to starbucks would have been a better choice after all.
of course, it may have been about as awkward as a Mormon clusterfuck for the dancer.
-fyi, old guys smell like Vienna sausages in a can, you know.
(btw, thanks for giving me the opportunity to finally use the clusterfuck line. it came to me this morning driving to work behind some asshat with a Mitt Romney sticker on his econovan full of people.)
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
if i was paying for a private nurse to take care of my father....
and i found out that nurse had a stripper come to the house to entertain my father......
that nurse would need to go to the hospital to have my foot surgically removed from her ass.......
If I had ordered a stripper (Although I always worked in homes. It's a bit different). There may be a few sons that would think it's okay but most would be devastated if their father was given a stripper, especially if they were still married. (To their mum)! :eek: The children are very protective of both parents. Obviously.
JamilyMan - I respect your point of view and knowledge but I'm well aware of all of this. I didn't say all strippers are on drugs and I was just in a bad mood when I wrote that. :rolleyes :
They describe the experience as very empowering. They often say that they get on stage and are able to completely control the audience. They are able to lure men into the private dance area where they can "sell" personal dance after personal dance, while basically owning the man who they are dancing for. Those that don't let men cross the line and do things that they are not allowed to do (touching, etc.) can hold their head up high at the end of a shift and know that they turned their audience into instant ATM machines, and were able to suck money out of them (okay, maybe not the best choice of words here!).
They know how to fool men into thinking that they are special
I don't think fooling men into thinking they are special so I can control and suck money out of them would make me want to hold my head up high, whether I had to take my clothes off or not. I understand how this can feel empowering, but it always makes me sad to think that this is the best option a woman might have to empower herself, feed her family, etc. For me, it seems sad for the women and the men. And the wives of the men.
I don't think fooling men into thinking they are special so I can control and suck money out of them would make me want to hold my head up high, whether I had to take my clothes off or not. I understand how this can feel empowering, but it always makes me sad to think that this is the best option a woman might have to empower herself, feed her family, etc. For me, it seems sad for the women and the men. And the wives of the men.
your sentiments have made me very happy.
it's not empowering at all. it's necessity and it feels desperate, and shabby.
IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
it's not empowering at all. it's necessity and it feels desperate, and shabby.
I will preface this by saying I would not want my daughters to do this, and would expect them to find more wholesome options. What I will say here does not hold true for every college coed...
I have started several responses to those that have quoted me in this thread. I opted not to continue them because like you, I had opinions about dancers before I worked with a few of them. True, many are desperate. Some are not. Some are using their looks to make it through college and get on with their lives.
At the end of the day, if a dancer entices a customer to buy a lapdance or 2 or 3, and that customer enjoys 15 minutes alone with a beautiful woman who is seemingly paying a lot of attention to him, I see this as a win-win. I see a guy who feels a little better about himself, even if that bolstered self esteem is based on an act. He still walks out feeling a little better about himself (often). The girl is using her looks and frollicking around in a g-string, showing only a little more than many women show on the beaches, in clubs, etc. and making better money than if she was working in the college bookstore or local starbucks.
Truly, I don't see the harm... and in speaking with some of these women, I don't think they are getting hurt or hurting anyone else. For the ones that think this is their only option or those that use this as a gateway to a different "profession" (like prostitution), or get caught up in the drug culture and the desperation, I do think it is a shame.
Until you sit with someone and really get the opportunity to get inside their head and learn about what makes them tick, it is easy to paint everyone with the same brush. I would strongly recommend against doing this, though.
Again, I would not want my daughters going down this path, and would not expect them not to. They are being given a very solid foundation, whereas not all of today's youth is. Even the kindest, brightest strippers I have counseled usually came from less than ideal family situations.
For those who scoff at "Jamily" in my name... 9 years ago, when my first daughter was born there were jokes about whether my priority would be my family or PJ. I smiled and quipped "I am a JamilyMan." What was a family joke became a hated term among jammers. Didn't see that one coming!
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thats why its a guy's thing, sex and lust, no love, and you know us girls have to "feel" something for the one we do dirty with.....
but thats their choice.
Yeah, he probably felt 80 again
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See, I can understand this. I'd be grossed out too
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I didn't say it wasn't. I still think it's cheap though. Or maybe I just have PMT.
:mad:
sorry to but in here........but that is really funny and cool......I am not the guy's wife (obviously) but I do think you were very creative.......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
PMT? sorry...
maybe if the wife got paid she would........like the dancer chick.......sorry that is really still funny.......I just get bad images thinking of a 91 yr old in that way........
but come to think of it, I don't think of anyone that I can think of (that I know) that I want to think of in that way, I guess.......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
It doesn't really bother me, I guess. I just don't get it.
I used to be a carer and if I ordered a stripper, most of the kids would be so angry and I'd have gotten the boot!
yeah, how many of us have taken our clothes off for ...free????????
something to think about.....
and how many people can say someone would actually pay them for their sexual favors??????
I know that IS A WEIRD STATEMENT, but I am 44 and I do not think that even in the most desperate of times, I could get money for sex, unless maybe I take, "guys with teeth" out of my list of credentials..........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
no, (It's normally to shut him up)
no,
and I didn't get the last bit.
what I meant, I guess, is that I know that girls who strip or hook for a living do not have the career of choice......well, you know what I mean, I am trying to not be judgemental or anything because it can sound that way if I say that I would not do that, or that it is a bad thing to do, etc. and I want to be careful not to insult anyone here or anywhere........
but then I wanted to introduce the idea that getting paid for having sex or stripping or whatever, would say that what you have or can do could make you money, and when you think about it, really think about it......could what you do or have really make you money if you put yourself in that world? For me, that is what that meant..........not about you or anyone else and then I meant that maybe I could, if my standards of a guy would change.......it was just a put down for me, which meant that yeah, maybe toothless guys might pay me for it............
and no, I am not that bad looking but I would not exactly think I could get paid for my looks.......but I am harder on myself than others........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
I always have a hard time knowing that and I have been on these threads before and I always end up stumped when someone tells me it was a joke or whatever..........gullible I suppose????????
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I think you are looking at this all wrong. Depending on perspective, it can be viewed a lot differently than you are looking at it.
I am a male and a licensed therapist, and I have provided therapy for women who had dabbled in exotic dancing and some who did it more hard core, as in for many years. I think the more hard core cases would fall into the category that you describe, and those are some very sad souls. Some I have worked with danced their way through college, only working in elite clubs and keeping everything on the up and up. They describe the experience as very empowering. They often say that they get on stage and are able to completely control the audience. They are able to lure men into the private dance area where they can "sell" personal dance after personal dance, while basically owning the man who they are dancing for. Those that don't let men cross the line and do things that they are not allowed to do (touching, etc.) can hold their head up high at the end of a shift and know that they turned their audience into instant ATM machines, and were able to suck money out of them (okay, maybe not the best choice of words here!).
They know how to fool men into thinking that they are special, and not like very Tom, Dick and Harry in the club. Those men feel special, and treat the dancers well.... and then a couple of hundred dollars later, they leave feeling good about themselves.
True, this is not every dancer out there... but to generalize that all of the girls that take their clothes off for money are pathetic, I would argue that the pathetic people are the ones who are forking over their mortgage payments just to feel special.
Okay, rant over. Just wanted to put another perspective out there for you to consider.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SnqE0L-lkKA
no, thanks......that is exactly what I was trying to say but I couldn't figure out how to. There is a certain power I think, given that the girl has a good head on her shoulders and works it right.........you know,........even when a girl is not doing this for a living, when she is just dating or whatever she is wise when she knows her power. And while I would differ on my advice for my daughter, I do wish I knew this when I was a younger woman......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
and by "right" i mean there was nothing wrong with it
♬♪♫ and I will not, grow tired of crayon stars and fire
♬♪♫ cause a soldier's death is so much better than defeat just hanging around
lol
and i found out that nurse had a stripper come to the house to entertain my father......
that nurse would need to go to the hospital to have my foot surgically removed from her ass.......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
*hint hint*
Also no money was exchanged. Thanks PJ fans for your overwhelming response. I'll try and read through some of what you've posted.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
also, the appropriateness is a bit off since you are an employee of his, and not a friend. A friendly employee - but not someone who should be able to procure anything with a sexual nature.
But since he enjoyed himself, and you felt that it would be a good gift (seeingas how you KNOW him well enough to make that judgment call) I would say, it was nice of you to do.
and i am glad that the old dude didn't get a blood soaked trouser shower as a result of being ears deep in bewbies...because that would have made this whole gift idea a bad move, and maybe a gift card to starbucks would have been a better choice after all.
of course, it may have been about as awkward as a Mormon clusterfuck for the dancer.
-fyi, old guys smell like Vienna sausages in a can, you know.
(btw, thanks for giving me the opportunity to finally use the clusterfuck line. it came to me this morning driving to work behind some asshat with a Mitt Romney sticker on his econovan full of people.)
If I had ordered a stripper (Although I always worked in homes. It's a bit different). There may be a few sons that would think it's okay but most would be devastated if their father was given a stripper, especially if they were still married. (To their mum)! :eek: The children are very protective of both parents. Obviously.
JamilyMan - I respect your point of view and knowledge but I'm well aware of all of this. I didn't say all strippers are on drugs and I was just in a bad mood when I wrote that. :rolleyes :
You're not alone... I kept waiting for the punchline on this one
10/21/06 & 10/22/06 (Bridge Shows)
I don't think fooling men into thinking they are special so I can control and suck money out of them would make me want to hold my head up high, whether I had to take my clothes off or not. I understand how this can feel empowering, but it always makes me sad to think that this is the best option a woman might have to empower herself, feed her family, etc. For me, it seems sad for the women and the men. And the wives of the men.
it's not empowering at all. it's necessity and it feels desperate, and shabby.
I will preface this by saying I would not want my daughters to do this, and would expect them to find more wholesome options. What I will say here does not hold true for every college coed...
I have started several responses to those that have quoted me in this thread. I opted not to continue them because like you, I had opinions about dancers before I worked with a few of them. True, many are desperate. Some are not. Some are using their looks to make it through college and get on with their lives.
At the end of the day, if a dancer entices a customer to buy a lapdance or 2 or 3, and that customer enjoys 15 minutes alone with a beautiful woman who is seemingly paying a lot of attention to him, I see this as a win-win. I see a guy who feels a little better about himself, even if that bolstered self esteem is based on an act. He still walks out feeling a little better about himself (often). The girl is using her looks and frollicking around in a g-string, showing only a little more than many women show on the beaches, in clubs, etc. and making better money than if she was working in the college bookstore or local starbucks.
Truly, I don't see the harm... and in speaking with some of these women, I don't think they are getting hurt or hurting anyone else. For the ones that think this is their only option or those that use this as a gateway to a different "profession" (like prostitution), or get caught up in the drug culture and the desperation, I do think it is a shame.
Until you sit with someone and really get the opportunity to get inside their head and learn about what makes them tick, it is easy to paint everyone with the same brush. I would strongly recommend against doing this, though.
Again, I would not want my daughters going down this path, and would not expect them not to. They are being given a very solid foundation, whereas not all of today's youth is. Even the kindest, brightest strippers I have counseled usually came from less than ideal family situations.