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LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,010
edited December 2007 in All Encompassing Trip
I say yes! And I'm not a Dolphin fan.

Go Bears!

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    blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    No...

    I can't stand Belichick, but that team is far and above every other team they have played (except Indy), that their record has nothing to do with that spying mess.

    There was a quote in a Pittsburgh newspaper by a Steelers assistant coach, saying they would change their signals when they played the Pats because they knew they were being filmed... if it was that common of knowledge, the benefit of videotaping couldn't have been that big.
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    NewmanUSPSNewmanUSPS Posts: 242
    I'm a huge Dolphin fan and have hated New England forever, but Shula sounds like a baby on this.... This Pats team is unbelievable...
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    smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    nope.....Dolphins suck
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    no
    if the league thought that the rule violation impacted the outcome of the game, they would have forced the pats to forfeit the game
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    HawkshoreHawkshore Posts: 2,145
    smarchee wrote:
    nope.....Dolphins suck

    Hey lets give credit where credit is due! The Dolphins are also in the midst of their own quest for a perfect season 0 - 16!!! ;) .....And that would make them the only team to achieve two perfect seasons!!!
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    kenshuntkenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    LukinFan wrote:
    I say yes! And I'm not a Dolphin fan.

    Go Bears!

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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,249
    Hawkshore wrote:
    Hey lets give credit where credit is due! The Dolphins are also in the midst of their own quest for a perfect season 0 - 16!!! ;) .....And that would make them the only team to achieve two perfect seasons!!!
    Wouldn't be something if in the season where someone finally matches (and eclipses due to the longer season) the 72 Dolphins, that the current Dolphins team also goes winless.

    They do play the Jets again and the Eagles, so they probably won't end up 0-16, but you never know.
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    bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    kenshunt wrote:
    Lou thinks this topic is wrong


    i also think that a bag of dicks is smarter than you ... why don't you stop stalking me... you'll never be as cool as I am

    :)




    people hate the pats because they win...

    anyone who looks at this objectively sees the truth

    that's the bottom line
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    bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    LukinFan wrote:
    I say yes! And I'm not a Dolphin fan.

    Go Bears!

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-shulaonpats110607&prov=yhoo&type=lgns



    so you believe because they taped the jets signals for the first 8 minutes iof the season that they should have an asterisk?
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    kenshuntkenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    Yeah having to pat (forget the pun)your own back is pathetic, ya ill never be as cool as lou looooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    No, I don't see why they would deserve one.

    I do find it funny that this team will only get better next year, because they're projecting to have a top 7 pick in next year's draft because San Fran is a mess right now.
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    nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    Poncier wrote:
    Wouldn't be something if in the season where someone finally matches (and eclipses due to the longer season) the 72 Dolphins, that the current Dolphins team also goes winless.

    They do play the Jets again and the Eagles, so they probably won't end up 0-16, but you never know.
    hey! the eagles may win another game or two this season! :p
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    nfanel wrote:
    hey! the eagles may win another game or two this season! :p


    Not to hijack this thread, but I see the Eagles winning 3 of their next 4, the one loss being New England.
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    - 8/28/98
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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,010
    bostonlou wrote:
    so you believe because they taped the jets signals for the first 8 minutes iof the season that they should have an asterisk?
    Who knows how long this has been going on? Just because they got caught in the first game of the season, doesn't mean that this was the first time that they did it. But why cheat against the Jets- that's the bigger question.
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    1STmammal2wearPants1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,838
    LukinFan wrote:
    Who knows how long this has been going on? Just because they got caught in the first game of the season, doesn't mean that this was the first time that they did it. But why cheat against the Jets- that's the bigger question.

    give me a break, everyone cheated. they just got caught. and we're talking about this season right now, and not seasons past.
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    dontloseyourheatdontloseyourheat Posts: 483
    It's been widely admitted that taping the other coaches is a common practice and teams know who is doing it. The Patriots were just stupidly brazen enough to do it so publicly. They had been warned several times but continued the practice.

    Teams are always looking for an edge, I'm sure there are much worse things that go on between teams that we do not hear about.
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    DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    bostonlou wrote:
    so you believe because they taped the jets signals for the first 8 minutes iof the season that they should have an asterisk?


    WHOA!!!! When did you get back? I thought you were banned for life.

    What happened? Did you call someone a retard?
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    DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    LukinFan wrote:
    I say yes! And I'm not a Dolphin fan.

    Go Bears!

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    Yes they do and we will stomp the Christ outta the pathetic Bears.
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    xscorchoxscorcho Posts: 409
    no.. and i cant stand the pats.
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    NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    totally
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    gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    No way.

    In related news, I overheard something on espn about somebody from the steelers organization guaranteeing a steelers win over the patriots this week.


    hahahahaha.
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    lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    bostonlou wrote:
    people hate the pats because they win...

    It's that, but it's also HOW they win. They're a great team, and everyone hates teams that beat their home team and go to the Super Bowl all the time...that's a fact for sure. Everyone hated the Cowboys in the 90's for the same reason.

    But the Patriots get extra special hate because they've had some really important games where a bunch of weird things happen, and they come back for a win that seemed impossible. The way the Ravens lost was pretty much the worst way you could lose, and hurts a lot more. It was similar to the Chargers game last year, which I still can't believe. You really do have to play great for 60 minutes to beat the Patriots...59 minutes isn't enough, because then the refs and the Patriots have a bigger influence on the outcome.

    But still, the bottom line is that if the Patriots weren't winning, nobody would care about their spying or "smugness" or whatever else.
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    brainofjbbrainofjb Boston Posts: 381
    NOPE

    they are gonna have a perfect season topped off with another superbowl win
    and they are not cheating
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    The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Danimal wrote:
    WHOA!!!! When did you get back? I thought you were banned for life.

    What happened? Did you call someone a retard?

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    DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    The Champ wrote:
    Refer to date of post..

    Oh! HAHAHAHAHAH! Didn't see that.
    Wonder what happened?
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    mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Definitely not. They are head and shoulders above the rest of the league and if they go undeafeted they deserve all the accolades that go with it. Even if they didn't video tape the Jets they would have creamed them. They would have creamed the Jets even if they just played with all their back-ups and just put 10 men on the field and I'm a Jets fan.
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    even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    The only * that will be used will be beside the 72 Fish when the 07 Fish bookend the 0-16 season with that perfect one.
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    even flow? wrote:
    The only * that will be used will be beside the 72 Fish when the 07 Fish bookend the 0-16 season with that perfect one.

    It is kinda ironic that no team has ever gone 15-0 and no team 0-15 (the records were set in 14 game seasons) and that the Dolphins and Pats meet each other in Game 15.
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    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
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    even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Solat13 wrote:
    It is kinda ironic that no team has ever gone 15-0 and no team 0-15 (the records were set in 14 game seasons) and that the Dolphins and Pats meet each other in Game 15.


    Maybe dejavu will strike ala the Bears? ha ha ha ha
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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,010
    Danimal wrote:
    Yes they do and we will stomp the Christ outta the pathetic Bears.
    Not in Super Bowl XX :)
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