To the poor.

chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
edited June 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
I would like to talk to you people on here about being poor.

Have you ever opened your cupboard doors to find maybe some rice or maybe nothing at all?
Have you ever waited in line at a soup kitchen or a food bank to get food in your gut?
Have you ever lived in goverment housing?
Have you ever sold drugs or done an illegal activity to put food on the table?
Have you ever went to bed hungry and cold?
Have you ever wore holes in your shoes only to not have them replaced with new ones for quite some time, only to be left walking in the rain or snow?
Have you ever shared your last dollar with someone who is just as poor as you are?

I am just curious.
I have done all the above and still am to some degree.
School has me pretty damn poor these days.
Sure I could quit school, jump back in a truck and make fundage
but my heart just isn't seeing things that way these days.
I hope to land some sort of part-time gig at the school
doing a work study job but that is a few weeks away.

I have been through just about everything, not all things, but many things.
And I'll tell you what, I am hungry and I don't mean for food

Not one single person has ever helped me do a fucking thing.
I been kicked down by myself and by others.

I want to be successful enough so I can help others who seriously
deserve some sort of a chance at grasping a decent life for themselves, for their family if they have one or want one.

In closing I'll add this:

Why would someone poke fun at someone
for not having the extra money to buy a bag of charcoal for a bbq
even when they know the individuals case?

That was my neighbor poking fun at me for using firewood
in my firepit rather than charcoal....to you dude i say suck a dick
you piece of shit...
for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."

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  • pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    I am poor but not that poor. If things do not get better for me soon though, I might be able to relate to that more. I am lucky enough to have great family and friends. Since finishing college though, things have been far from great for me.......I am having a really difficult time right now.
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  • ozpjmanozpjman Posts: 872
    Use that firewood to burn down his muthafucken house!!!!!

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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    unfortunately in this soceity the vast majority of people all too quickly judge others only as to how much $ they make and the material things that they have or buy. and it makes them feel superior to put people down if don't they don't possess those same things that they themselves take for granted. even if the circumstances of the person that their tearing down has them on a vastly different playing field. the whole bunch of folks that think "I make plenty of $, i have lots of stuff and i've never known what it's like to be poor or be hungry and this make me a better person than those who are." are usually the most miserable people

    the way i see it what makes a person successful isn't how much money they make or in what stuff that they own. but in what time, effort, kindness and compassion that person is willing to extend to others, even if it's just something as simple as a smile.

    i've met some people that are poor and have very little that i think of as being successful. and some people that have lots of money and own alot of things that are failures

    so i may be poor and not have money...but that doesn't mean that i'll ever be one of the people that sells my soul in order to get it. i'm not saying that everyone that has money had to sell their soul to get it either...i'm just saying
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    I have done some of those things, but not all. If poor means wondering where your next meal is coming from or going to bed rather than turn the heating on, then yes, I've been poor.
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  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    i am not rich no way but not that poor
    as a child my parents did not had that much much money but they tried to mak the best out of it...
    i have seen real poorness in asia in the slums etc..
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    chadwick wrote:
    I would like to talk to you people on here about being poor.

    Have you ever opened your cupboard doors to find maybe some rice or maybe nothing at all?
    Have you ever waited in line at a soup kitchen or a food bank to get food in your gut?
    Have you ever lived in goverment housing?
    Have you ever sold drugs or done an illegal activity to put food on the table?
    Have you ever went to bed hungry and cold?
    Have you ever wore holes in your shoes only to not have them replaced with new ones for quite some time, only to be left walking in the rain or snow?
    Have you ever shared your last dollar with someone who is just as poor as you are?

    I am just curious.
    I have done all the above and still am to some degree.
    School has me pretty damn poor these days.
    Sure I could quit school, jump back in a truck and make fundage
    but my heart just isn't seeing things that way these days.
    I hope to land some sort of part-time gig at the school
    doing a work study job but that is a few weeks away.

    I have been through just about everything, not all things, but many things.
    And I'll tell you what, I am hungry and I don't mean for food

    Not one single person has ever helped me do a fucking thing.
    I been kicked down by myself and by others.

    I want to be successful enough so I can help others who seriously
    deserve some sort of a chance at grasping a decent life for themselves, for their family if they have one or want one.

    In closing I'll add this:

    Why would someone poke fun at someone
    for not having the extra money to buy a bag of charcoal for a bbq
    even when they know the individuals case?

    That was my neighbor poking fun at me for using firewood
    in my firepit rather than charcoal....to you dude i say suck a dick
    you piece of shit...
    ...
    Advice: Apply for a student grant. They do not have to be paid back. The amount you recieve is based upon your parent's income. If you are denied... it means your parent's make too much money to qualify. If that's the case... hit up Mom and Dad.
    http://studentaid.ed.gov/students/publications/student_guide/index.html
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  • shareshare Posts: 551
    I feel sorry for your neighbor.

    money does not equate to happiness. It can make your life more
    comfortable but in the end it's love that keeps you rich.
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    waht an asshole neighbor.

    and i feel fortunate that I have not had to do any of those things you listed.

    {{{Chadwick}}}
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  • jbalicki10jbalicki10 Posts: 517
    Attending School != being poor
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Advice: Apply for a student grant. They do not have to be paid back. The amount you recieve is based upon your parent's income. If you are denied... it means your parent's make too much money to qualify. If that's the case... hit up Mom and Dad.
    http://studentaid.ed.gov/students/publications/student_guide/index.html

    yes grants is a good thing.
    i talk to them folks in a few weeks.
    i get loans and grants already.


    to sum things up for ya..

    i am 36 years old
    hitting up mom and dad = not an option.

    dad's been dead for years now
    mom's broke as fuck
    my mom and i take care of each other

    im not as bad off as it sounds or seems
    many, many ppl have absolutely zero
    i have more than zero
    just not extra at all
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    chadwick wrote:
    yes grants is a good thing.
    i talk to them folks in a few weeks.
    i get loans and grants already.


    to sum things up for ya..

    i am 36 years old
    hitting up mom and dad = not an option.

    dad's been dead for years now
    mom's broke as fuck
    my mom and i take care of each other

    im not as bad off as it sounds or seems
    many, many ppl have absolutely zero
    i have more than zero
    just not extra at all
    ...
    Then, by all means... hit up the grants. It's also a good incentive for keeping up your G.P.A. Drop below a set G.P.A. and the money goes away.
    ...
    Also, by 'firepit'... are you talking about for heat (fireplace) or cooking (like a barbeque)? If for heat, be careful. Carbon Monoxide is not something you want any part of.
    And two words... Top Ramen.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Then, by all means... hit up the grants. It's also a good incentive for keeping up your G.P.A. Drop below a set G.P.A. and the money goes away.
    ...
    Also, by 'firepit'... are you talking about for heat (fireplace) or cooking (like a barbeque)? If for heat, be careful. Carbon Monoxide is not something you want any part of.
    And two words... Top Ramen.

    you're hilarious in an innocent type way..
    dude, i am assuming you're a dude..

    firepit = a 18 wheeler big truck rim sitting in my back yard with brick
    used as a firepit, like for a campsite, picnic table area
    for parties and the like or just relaxing under the stars fire side

    my bbq grill sits on my deck

    and yes i have a fireplace in the house i burn wood in
    and i have cooked in it when storms have knocked out power

    im a big boy i can manage a grilling session
    but um, thank you for your concern
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    The key to the BBQ is having a good bed of coals. I cooked some steaks this weekend in a fire pit, and I'm by no means poor. But there are several keys to a good pit BBQ

    1) Use a hardwood. Avoid pines.
    2) Make sure the firewood is dry and seasoned.
    3) Get a good bed of coals and embers for consistent heat.
    4) Occasionally rake or stir the coals to make sure you have consistent heat.
    5) Avoid fire and flare-ups or you will burn your food.

    Follow these tips and no one is allowed to make fun of you. If they do, you can call their bluff, school them in the art of grilling, and send them running back to their cellar to question their manhood!
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jason P wrote:
    The key to the BBQ is having a good bed of coals. I cooked some steaks this weekend in a fire pit, and I'm by no means poor. But there are several keys to a good pit BBQ

    1) Use a hardwood. Avoid pines.
    2) Make sure the firewood is dry and seasoned.
    3) Get a good bed of coals and embers for consistent heat.
    4) Occasionally rake or stir the coals to make sure you have consistent heat.
    5) Avoid fire and flare-ups or you will burn your food.

    Follow these tips and no one is allowed to make fun of you. If they do, you can call their bluff, school them in the art of grilling, and send them running back to their cellar to question their manhood!

    hickory was and is still my favorite wood for cooking on
    unfortunately i do not have any hickory out here in WA
    but we do have fruit bearing trees, cherry, apple, ect.
    hickory is up the whazo in iowa tho
    i once asked my brother to mail me a few wheel barrel
    loads of hickory wood... :D
    frickin prick told me to go and F myself someplace

    i could tell you stories of southern iowa almost missouri hillbilly butcher shops
    that sell some of the greatest choices of grain fed meats you could ever
    dream up..rib-eyes, t bones, new york strips that melt in your mouth
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    chadwick wrote:
    hickory was and is still my favorite wood for cooking on
    unfortunately i do not have any hickory out here in WA
    but we do have fruit bearing trees, cherry, apple, ect.
    hickory is up the whazo in iowa tho
    i once asked my brother to mail me a few wheel barrel
    loads of hickory wood... :D
    frickin prick told me to go and F myself someplace

    i could tell you stories of southern iowa almost missouri hillbilly butcher shops
    that sell some of the greatest choices of grain fed meats you could ever
    dream up..rib-eyes, t bones, new york strips that melt in your mouth

    Well, it's clear you know a thing or two about grilling. For me, the case is closed . . . your neighbor is a moron. I hope he didn't go as far to try to bum some food off of you.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jason P wrote:
    Well, it's clear you know a thing or two about grilling. For me, the case is closed . . . your neighbor is a moron. I hope he didn't go as far to try to bum some food off of you.

    where you from my fellow corn field dweller??
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jason P wrote:
    Well, it's clear you know a thing or two about grilling. For me, the case is closed . . . your neighbor is a moron. I hope he didn't go as far to try to bum some food off of you.

    no he didn't
    and you're right
    he is a moron

    but i kinda like the fucker
    for some damn reason

    i actually should whip his ass for eem
    frickin prick
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • kh65kh65 Posts: 946
    I would tend to think that being "poor" is realitive. No one in the U.S. is really poor. Think about it. How many TV's do you have? How many cars do you have? How many days have you gone without food? If you have the money to buy cigarettes and/or alcohol you aren't "poor".
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    chadwick wrote:
    you're hilarious in an innocent type way..
    dude, i am assuming you're a dude..

    firepit = a 18 wheeler big truck rim sitting in my back yard with brick
    used as a firepit, like for a campsite, picnic table area
    for parties and the like or just relaxing under the stars fire side

    my bbq grill sits on my deck

    and yes i have a fireplace in the house i burn wood in
    and i have cooked in it when storms have knocked out power

    im a big boy i can manage a grilling session
    but um, thank you for your concern
    ...
    Well, okay. My initial thought was that you were dirt poor. I figured, if you don't have money for food... you don't have money to pay for heat. A lot of poor people drag the Hibatchi indoors for heat and pay the consequences for it.
    ...
    As for your neighbor... ask him, "Other than complete idiots... who sits around a campfire of glowing charcoal brickets?" Firepits are pits for fire... thus, the wood.
    ...
    And yup... 'dude' works for me.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    kh65 wrote:
    I would tend to think that being "poor" is realitive. No one in the U.S. is really poor. Think about it. How many TV's do you have? How many cars do you have? How many days have you gone without food? If you have the money to buy cigarettes and/or alcohol you aren't "poor".

    you're quite wrong my friend
    i could take you to some very poor parts
    of this country

    sure alot of ppl in the u.s. have money
    their are a tons of extremely poor ppl in this fucking country

    obviously, and i don't wanna use this word but i am going to
    obviously you have not been everywhere or anywhere for that matter

    old ppl eating cat and dog food is not poor?
    children eating out of trash cans as the family
    lives in a broken down car isn't poor?

    some ppl have never had a tv
    some folks would be thrilled to have a can of span

    and you don't think that's poor?

    sure it's not the slum of sum city in india or thiland
    and it sure isn't ethiopia, africa

    the u.s. is riddled with poor, unhealthy ppl.
    that's a fact..
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    chadwick wrote:
    where you from my fellow corn field dweller??
    I'm living in Indiana right now. I spent 8 years getting my culture in Seattle, San Francisco, Portland, and San Diego, but I traded it all in to return to the flatlands and the bad weather. I'm not sure what I was thinking (oh yeah . . . I couldn't afford to buy any land within a 3 hour drive of a city).
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    Party On, Dudes!
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jason P wrote:
    I'm living in Indiana right now. I spent 8 years getting my culture in Seattle, San Francisco, Portland, and San Diego, but I traded it all in to return to the flatlands and the bad weather. I'm not sure what I was thinking (oh yeah . . . I couldn't afford to buy any land within a 3 hour drive of a city).

    yeah these fuckers out here sell a house worth 30 or 40 grand for several hundred thousand dollars just cause its near the ocean
    flippin morons
    and yeah buying property out here is insanity
    and ppl out here do not trust each other
    what a crock of shit
    flippin ppl piss me off
    i miss the good ole boys
    they sure aren't 'round here dude
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    chadwick wrote:
    yeah these fuckers out here sell a house worth 30 or 40 grand for several hundred thousand dollars just cause its near the ocean
    flippin morons
    and yeah buying property out here is insanity
    and ppl out here do not trust each other
    what a crock of shit
    flippin ppl piss me off
    i miss the good ole boys
    they sure aren't 'round here dude


    How can you afford a computer with internet access?

    Why are you in school if you're 36?

    Are you on welfare? Food Stamps?
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Just keep a thick skin.

    The wise and thrifty are NEVER poor.

    Stay in school, keep your head up. You'll get there.

    (and then wind up as that guys boss)
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  • stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    chadwick wrote:
    I would like to talk to you people on here about being poor.

    Have you ever opened your cupboard doors to find maybe some rice or maybe nothing at all?
    Have you ever waited in line at a soup kitchen or a food bank to get food in your gut?
    Have you ever lived in goverment housing?
    Have you ever sold drugs or done an illegal activity to put food on the table?
    Have you ever went to bed hungry and cold?
    Have you ever wore holes in your shoes only to not have them replaced with new ones for quite some time, only to be left walking in the rain or snow?
    Have you ever shared your last dollar with someone who is just as poor as you are?

    I am just curious.
    I have done all the above and still am to some degree.
    School has me pretty damn poor these days.
    Sure I could quit school, jump back in a truck and make fundage
    but my heart just isn't seeing things that way these days.
    I hope to land some sort of part-time gig at the school
    doing a work study job but that is a few weeks away.

    I have been through just about everything, not all things, but many things.
    And I'll tell you what, I am hungry and I don't mean for food

    Not one single person has ever helped me do a fucking thing.
    I been kicked down by myself and by others.

    I want to be successful enough so I can help others who seriously
    deserve some sort of a chance at grasping a decent life for themselves, for their family if they have one or want one.

    In closing I'll add this:

    Why would someone poke fun at someone
    for not having the extra money to buy a bag of charcoal for a bbq
    even when they know the individuals case?

    That was my neighbor poking fun at me for using firewood
    in my firepit rather than charcoal....to you dude i say suck a dick
    you piece of shit...

    Why do you care about your neighbor making fun?

    He is your neighbor! If you don't have money he probably doesn't either.
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  • just tinajust tina Posts: 277
    kh65 wrote:
    I would tend to think that being "poor" is realitive. No one in the U.S. is really poor. Think about it. How many TV's do you have? How many cars do you have? How many days have you gone without food? If you have the money to buy cigarettes and/or alcohol you aren't "poor".
    but there are people in the US without tv's, without cars, without shelter, without food...
  • stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    but there are people in the US without tv's, without cars, without shelter, without food...


    There's also a lot of poor people with those things even though they can't afford them.....(Excluding food)
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  • just tinajust tina Posts: 277
    stickfig13 wrote:
    There's also a lot of poor people with those things even though they can't afford them.....(Excluding food)
    yea well that too. some people seem to be able to work around things like that. but let's not take away from the fact that there are starving people in this country too. people that can't get medical care when they need it. people living on the streets.
  • stickfig13stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    yea well that too. some people seem to be able to work around things like that. but let's not take away from the fact that there are starving people in this country too. people that can't get medical care when they need it. people living on the streets.


    I fully agree....Nobody should starve.

    My point is that sometimes people aren't smart with the money they earn.

    I'm not a rich guy, but I never run out of money. I'm very frugal. However, I have friends that make comparable wages and are always broke!

    Now....A single parent trying to raise two kids while working two jobs deserves all the help and sympathy in the world.

    Not sure I'm buying a single 36 year old man not being able to feed himself.....
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  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    Hey man, keep up the good fight and maybe someday down the road you can help make someones life a bit easier....even if just for one day.

    Good luck to you and fuck your neighbor.

    The people who arent smart with their money are stuggling. The people who dont have money to not be smart with are poor.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
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