Morbid question for ya'all

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,005
    genie wrote:
    ok, i'm kinda curious as to what would be your point where you decide that life is not worth living, where you decide that you have to much on your hands to cope with or for that fact to little.

    for everyone who wants to reply i'd like them to list the things that would push them to either not care for themselves and let themselves go or commit suicide.

    and yes, that's right genie is back ;) with more twisted and dark thoughts on her mind!

    this reminds me of my wacky literature professor in college who had us all write a suicide note our first day
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    this reminds me of my wacky literature professor in college who had us all write a suicide note our first day

    Wow! That's sounds interesting. Did you have to share them with the rest of the class? How did he mark them? Afterwards did you tear it up?
    NOPE!!!

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  • Urban Hiker
    Urban Hiker Posts: 1,312
    I fear dismemberment much more than death.

    I would not want to be a quadriplegic. I need to write up papers for this sort of thing.
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  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    I don't think anyone knows until they are there. At least that's how I think about it. All animals have survival and coping skills, so one can only guess at what would send them over the top, but what sends one over may not another. I have thought about this quite a bit as my dad was paralyzed before I was born yet lived a wonderful full life until he was in such pain he finally committed suicide. I fully support euthanasia in animals and humans and hope it passes here as it has in Oregon. I would like to know it's available should I ever feel the need. :)
    "I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    The world breaks everyone and afterward many are stronger at the broken places. (Hemingway, Ernest).

    oh yeah great... this from someone who topped himself.
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  • Corey Lynn
    Corey Lynn Posts: 681
    oh yeah great... this from someone who topped himself.

    No Shit. Thank you Wikipedia...I now know incredibly too much information on Hemingway. I did not know that he committed suicide .Ironic, huh?



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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    No Shit. Thank you Wikipedia...I now know incredibly too much information on Hemingway. I did not know that he committed suicide .Ironic, huh?

    hemingways father , brother and sister committed suicide.


    my father was a coward. he shot himself without necessity. at least i thought so. i had gone through it myself until i figured it in my head. i knew what it was to be a coward and what it was to cease being a coward. now, truly, in actual danger i felt a clean feeling as in a shower. of course it was easy now. that was because i no longer care what happened. i knew it was better to live it so that if you died you had done everything that you could do about your work and your enjoymrnt of life up to that minute, reconciling the two, which is very difficult. - ernest hemingway
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  • Corey Lynn
    Corey Lynn Posts: 681
    yeah. It looks like he may have been bi-polar or had another condition that affected him mentally (along with others in his family). It makes you wonder if he would have still have had such a great talent in absence of the mental illness. Somehow, I doubt it. We see it all the time...the most brilliant people seem to be broken in other ways.



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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    yeah. It looks like he may have been bi-polar or had another condition that affected him mentally (along with others in his family). It makes you wonder if he would have still have had such a great talent in absence of the mental illness. Somehow, I doubt it. We see it all the time...the most brilliant people seem to be broken in other ways.

    well im sure that electroconvulsive therapy didnt help him either.

    mental illness does take you places the average person never even thinks about, let alone visits. and those talented enough, or driven by the need to to use it, do.
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  • sj.brodie
    sj.brodie Posts: 468
    i read somewhere that suicide is a confession - that you didn't enjoy or understand life

    i think suicidal thoughts are a result of not knowing your place in the world, or agonizing over the 'meaning of life', emptiness etc

    I also recall this quote which i love. So to finish on a positive note;

    'if you're living in hell, keep going'

    be strong!
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    sj.brodie wrote:
    i read somewhere that suicide is a confession - that you didn't enjoy or understand life

    i think suicidal thoughts are a result of not knowing your place in the world, or agonizing over the 'meaning of life', emptiness etc

    I also recall this quote which i love. So to finish on a positive note;

    'if you're living in hell, keep going'

    be strong!

    i agree. suicide to me is a confession. a confession that i dont want to be here anymore.
    i never agonise over the meaning of life cause i dont believe there is one, and i have suicidal thoughts more often than not.
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    That would be my absolute breaking point, as well.

    I can't imagine surviving my child. The thought sends me into a complete panic and I can't imagine going on after that. :(
    And yet... many do :o my 2 cousins died in a fire when they were 9 and 11... only kids in the family. My aunt and uncle are still going... they had another son a year or so after... split and had a messy divorce. I don't see much of my uncle but I see a lot of my aunt and am pretty close to her... I dont know how she does it :(
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • illegal pants
    illegal pants Posts: 13,471
    when there's nothing left to smile about
    wah
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,005
    Jeanie wrote:
    Wow! That's sounds interesting. Did you have to share them with the rest of the class? How did he mark them? Afterwards did you tear it up?

    some people shared. they weren't graded. it was the first day of class.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Indian Summer
    Indian Summer Posts: 2,296
    Nobody can really answer this question, until they're faced with such a situation. I've know some people who I thought were really strong, and when faced with some tough life situations, took the easy way out....and vice versa, I've known some people who I thought were rather weak, and turned out to be stronger than I could have imagined.

    You don't know how you'll respond until certain situations are right in front of you.
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  • noisy mind
    noisy mind Posts: 65
    i'm very serious when i say this, but, if i lost my dick and balls in a tragic boating accident or something and i was not able to watch internet porn and masturbate feely, i would have to let go of this world.

    anyway IBTL.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    some people shared. they weren't graded. it was the first day of class.

    Pretty confronting I'll bet. It's a really interesting exercise though.

    What did you think of it?
    NOPE!!!

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Like mentioned before, I don't think you know that point until you get there.

    But, I can't foresee anything that would drive me to take my own life... Maybe it's my optimistic nature, but I always seem to see the glass as half full, and even in the hardest moments of my life so far (granted, nothing terrible), I've always been convinced that things will work out in the end.

    genie wrote:
    ok, suppose you have an accident on the road and end up tied down to the chair, would that make you or break you?
    suppose you accidentally catch AIDS, would you still want to live?
    suppose there was a well known gang after you...example: Hells Angels, would you still want to live hiding from them all your life?

    And as far as this goes, you have to be kidding me... if any of these would drive someone to suicide, they weren't that far from it before.
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  • genie wrote:
    ok, suppose you have an accident on the road and end up tied down to the chair, would that make you or break you?

    Are you suggesting that people who end up in a wheelchair are likely to consider suicide, or should?

    'Tied down to the chair'? Well if you face that, better make sure they wet the cloth first. Don't want any Green Mile shit going wrong.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    If they put the Martin Lawrence show back on the air, I'd definitely kill myself.