Soccer is similar to me as NASCAR is to you. I just don't get it nor am I interested in investing any more time trying to figure it out. It's just not that exciting to me.
We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.--Bill Hicks
Soccer is similar to me as NASCAR is to you. I just don't get it nor am I interested in investing any more time trying to figure it out. It's just not that exciting to me.
Soccer and NASCAR ARE the same thing to me.
"Pele passes it to Pele 2 over to Pele!" "Come see low scores, and ties!!!"
That I've watched but don't understand. I do respect that sport though. Those cars are damn near jet fighter.
A big part is the technology in the cars
the locales-truly a world championship
the tracks-some of the grandstands are spectacular
the strategy-more
We are talking about ferraris, BMW and mercedes top of the line race cars.
There is aerospace grade technology (NASA) grade, and then there is F1 grade, a step above.
Amazing stuff.
I will say that the lack of passing can make it a bit boring at times
Funny how drivers are called rednecks when drivers like Ryan Newman have mechanical engineering degrees from Purdue. Also, a lot of the "necks" that build the cars also have engineering degrees.
if i want to see a bunch of monte carlos racin around i just go up to illinois/wisconsin border. i heard once that watching a whole nascar race sober will kill three million brain cells, and those don't come back.
HOLY shit. this thread is really just a big ol' ball of ignorance.
first of all. doesn't count for WHAT? what are the qualifiers? did you not grow up watching Nascar, therefore it doesn't "count" to YOU?? many people enjoy the sport. It IS a sport, and it IS fascinating.
the concept that it's all jug-band style trashy people that are ignorant is itself IGNORANT and stereotypical. Only "right wingers' like Nascar?
every Nascar fan lives in a trailer? bullshit.
would NFL "count"?? isnt the fanbase just a bunch of former fratties getting drunk and watching men with oversized pituitaries battle it out?
please. :rolleyes:
I suppose ALL pearl Jam fans believe and act in the same fashion...do they "count" as a musical interest?? "oh grunge heads" ?!?
by the way, the demographics of the fanbase for Nascar has changed a LOT over the years. get a clue about something before you start a thread trashing it.
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My interest in NASCAR has certainly waned since Dale Sr.'s death, but this little story might give you an idea of just how much it does matter....or count as the OP put it
I don't believe it would be a huge leap to say, with 99.9% certainty, that NASCAR matters a lot more than the NHL
December 2005
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. — NASCAR announced its new 2007 television contracts on Wednesday, deals which solidify its position as the No. 2 television sport behind National Football League games.
Under the new eight-year agreements, NASCAR races will be broadcast on a combination of networks that includes Fox, Speed, Turner's TNT, and ABC/ESPN beginning in 2007, according to NASCAR.com.
Notably absent from the new deal was NBC. The Wall Street Journal reported that NBC has lost money on its current NASCAR contract and now has "the high cost of NFL on Sunday nights."
The Journal said the new contracts are valued at about $4.5 billion or $560 million a year, up from current deals totaling $2.4 billion over six years or $400 million a year.
What this means to you: Coming soon to a lot of stations near you! NASCAR continues to rev up its clout among advertisers and entertainment outlets, positioning itself for even greater growth.
All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
if i want to see a bunch of monte carlos racin around i just go up to illinois/wisconsin border. i heard once that watching a whole nascar race sober will kill three million brain cells, and those don't come back.
Yep, that's right. I've been to 15 of them. So, I've lost......15 x 3......hmmmm, that's tough. Wait, what were we talking about again?
HOLY shit. this thread is really just a big ol' ball of ignorance.
first of all. doesn't count for WHAT? what are the qualifiers? did you not grow up watching Nascar, therefore it doesn't "count" to YOU?? many people enjoy the sport. It IS a sport, and it IS fascinating.
the concept that it's all jug-band style trashy people that are ignorant is itself IGNORANT and stereotypical. Only "right wingers' like Nascar?
every Nascar fan lives in a trailer? bullshit.
would NFL "count"?? isnt the fanbase just a bunch of former fratties getting drunk and watching men with oversized pituitaries battle it out?
please. :rolleyes:
I suppose ALL pearl Jam fans believe and act in the same fashion...do they "count" as a musical interest?? "oh grunge heads" ?!?
by the way, the demographics of the fanbase for Nascar has changed a LOT over the years. get a clue about something before you start a thread trashing it.
Don't waste your time with these guys cos they are just a bunch of ignorant video game playing little nerds who don't know shit about cars and man stuff ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Don't waste your time with these guys cos they are just a bunch of ignorant video game playing little nerds who don't know shit about cars and man stuff ..
NASCAR fans are a sensitive lot. I had y'all pegged as being tougher than that...
I personally think the potential for crackers to burst into flames has to be worth something.
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NASCAR fans are a sensitive lot. I had y'all pegged as being tougher than that...
I personally think the potential for crackers to burst into flames has to be worth something.
What was sensitive about my post? I am familiar with the majority of the posters/nerds who made dumb/ignorant comments and thus just made a suggestion to her..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
'Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports...all others are games.'
-Hemingway
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
'Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports...all others are games.'
-Hemingway
Hemingway was a trophy hunter and I can't even begin to imagine a more cowardly past time. That being said, I'm a fan of his writing style. And weird that he wouldn't mention boxing seeing as how he was a boxer and that is way more of a real sport than any he mentioned.
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Hemingway was a trophy hunter and I can't even begin to imagine a more cowardly past time. That being said, I'm a fan of his writing style. And weird that he wouldn't mention boxing seeing as how he was a boxer and that is way more of a real sport than any he mentioned.
As a former amateur boxer, I don't know the answer to your valid question but I do have to agree with your assessment ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
What was sensitive about my post? I am familiar with the majority of the posters/nerds who made dumb/ignorant comments and thus just made a suggestion to her..
A few of you seem kind of defensive about the subject in general. However, I really don't care one way or the other. I'm just fishin' for responses.
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As a former amateur boxer, I don't know the answer to your valid question but I do have to agree with your assessment ..
Boxing is awesome. I admire any sport where you are willing to pit yourself against another human in combat. No tools, no machines, no balls, no end zones, just 1 on 1. To me, that is real competition.
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A few of you seem kind of defensive about the subject in general. However, I really don't care one way or the other. I'm just fishin' for responses.
Like I said, I really couldn't care less about what the original poster personally thinks about Nascar..nor do I care about what people here have for lunch, or how much money they make, or who they are voting etc..just posting for the sake of posting ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
A few of you seem kind of defensive about the subject in general. However, I really don't care one way or the other. I'm just fishin' for responses.
The defensiveness might come from the fact that people dog on the sport calling a bunch of necks going in circles and they really have no idea what they're talking about. To be critical of anything that people enjoy when the party that is doing the criticizing doesn't know anything about it might cause some defensiveness.
I only comment on it becasue there are a lot of misconceptions about the sport and the people that enjoy it.
Like I said, I'd rather tailgate with these people anytime than go to a Pats-Dolphins game to get verbally harrased just because I root for the Dolphins and I live in NE. At least I won't threatened with violence and have shit thrown at me.
oy, a cracker bursting into flames?!?! wow, that kinda sucks...
know what??
I'm gonna watch Richmond this weekend...
Love me some short track racing....I really need to find someone new to root for cos after Rusty retired, rooting against Gordon just wasn't as much fun and didn't keep my interest :(..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
I enjoy how NASCAR fans love to tell you how popular it is. Like how 150,000 go every week which is all well and good but it is one event once a week. Baseball as boring as it may be draws over 300,000 EVERY night during the season across the country for the major leagues (if every team is playing thats 16 games average around 20,000 per game). 150,000 once a week really isn't all that great, hell the NHL draws even more than that on a full schedule night. just saying...
The defensiveness might come from the fact that people dog on the sport calling a bunch of necks going in circles and they really have no idea what they're talking about. To be critical of anything that people enjoy when the party that is doing the criticizing doesn't know anything about it might cause some defensiveness.
I only comment on it becasue there are a lot of misconceptions about the sport and the people that enjoy it.
Like I said, I'd rather tailgate with these people anytime than go to a Pats-Dolphins game to get verbally harrased just because I root for the Dolphins and I live in NE. At least I won't threatened with violence and have shit thrown at me.
As a long time basketball junkie, I've heard many disparaging remarks about that sport too. Often times racists remarks from white folks. Everybody badmouths things they don't like, don't understand, or just aren't very good at.
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I enjoy how NASCAR fans love to tell you how popular it is. Like how 150,000 go every week which is all well and good but it is one event once a week. Baseball as boring as it may be draws over 300,000 EVERY night during the season across the country for the major leagues (if every team is playing thats 16 games average around 20,000 per game). 150,000 once a week really isn't all that great, hell the NHL draws even more than that on a full schedule night. just saying...
right, but that number doesnt count the amount of people watching at home...if that is the basis for what you are talking about...popularity...
as for the sport itself, like with many things it's subjective...I could argue about art styles, music tastes, favorite foods, whatever - and there are bound to be some who agree and some who disagree...
I react towards people making stereotypical claims about the "type" of people that like a particular thing in a disparaging manner...
for example, the thread starter later implies superiority based on their dislike/disdain for Nascar itself.
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For those who are guessing about demographics...This poster linked some for you. Very interesting if you ask me... there are a lot of links out there other than this that basically state the same demographics and stats.....
NASCAR is outpacing all other sports in growth of PAID attendance.
NASCAR has a fan base of nearly 75 million in United States.
On the average, a NASCAR fan will watch 18 races on television.
40% of NASCAR fans have children under the age of 18 (111 index vs. U.S. pop)
91% of NASCAR fans are high school graduates and 75% have at least some college education, or are college graduates.
74% of NASCAR fans own their own homes.
74% of NASCAR fans own two or more automobiles.
80% of NASCAR fans carry a major credit card.
96% of NASCAR fans use a personal computer.
The average income of a NASCAR fan is $43,280 annually, the average income of a family of four is $60,000.
1 in 5 NASCAR fans have a income of $75,000 or greater.
36% of NASCAR fans earn $50,000+ per year
10.1% of NASCAR fans are African-American, compared to 11.7% of NFL
NASCAR had more corporate revenue ($1.5 Bil.) money compared with $445 million for the NFL and $340 million for Major League Baseball.
NASCAR is actively in 38 states, promoting and sanctioning over 1,000 races.
72% of fans are more likely to buy a product if it is associated with NASCAR.
Over 65% of NASCAR fans that attend races, are out of towner's, or out state.
17 of top 20 attended sporting events in the U.S. are NASCAR races, with 300,000 at Indianapolis, 220,000 at Texas Motor Speedway (twice yearly), 170,000 Bristol Motor Speedway, TN (twice yearly), 180,000 at Lowe's Motor Speedway, NC (Twice yearly, not included All-Star Race)
right, but that number doesnt count the amount of people watching at home...if that is the basis for what you are talking about...popularity...
as for the sport itself, like with many things it's subjective...I could argue about art styles, music tastes, favorite foods, whatever - and there are bound to be some who agree and some who disagree...
I react towards people making stereotypical claims about the "type" of people that like a particular thing in a disparaging manner...
for example, the thread starter later implies superiority based on their dislike/disdain for Nascar itself.
agreed but if you added up all the local broadcasts of those sports I'd imagine it would still be a lot higher than NASCAR.
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They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
Well if I were them I'd feel the same way
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Soccer and NASCAR ARE the same thing to me.
"Pele passes it to Pele 2 over to Pele!" "Come see low scores, and ties!!!"
A big part is the technology in the cars
the locales-truly a world championship
the tracks-some of the grandstands are spectacular
the strategy-more
We are talking about ferraris, BMW and mercedes top of the line race cars.
There is aerospace grade technology (NASA) grade, and then there is F1 grade, a step above.
Amazing stuff.
I will say that the lack of passing can make it a bit boring at times
Athletic
Sport
Centered
Around
Rednecks
But they're all hillbillies.
first of all. doesn't count for WHAT? what are the qualifiers? did you not grow up watching Nascar, therefore it doesn't "count" to YOU?? many people enjoy the sport. It IS a sport, and it IS fascinating.
the concept that it's all jug-band style trashy people that are ignorant is itself IGNORANT and stereotypical. Only "right wingers' like Nascar?
every Nascar fan lives in a trailer? bullshit.
would NFL "count"?? isnt the fanbase just a bunch of former fratties getting drunk and watching men with oversized pituitaries battle it out?
please. :rolleyes:
I suppose ALL pearl Jam fans believe and act in the same fashion...do they "count" as a musical interest?? "oh grunge heads" ?!?
by the way, the demographics of the fanbase for Nascar has changed a LOT over the years. get a clue about something before you start a thread trashing it.
I don't believe it would be a huge leap to say, with 99.9% certainty, that NASCAR matters a lot more than the NHL
December 2005
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. — NASCAR announced its new 2007 television contracts on Wednesday, deals which solidify its position as the No. 2 television sport behind National Football League games.
Under the new eight-year agreements, NASCAR races will be broadcast on a combination of networks that includes Fox, Speed, Turner's TNT, and ABC/ESPN beginning in 2007, according to NASCAR.com.
Notably absent from the new deal was NBC. The Wall Street Journal reported that NBC has lost money on its current NASCAR contract and now has "the high cost of NFL on Sunday nights."
The Journal said the new contracts are valued at about $4.5 billion or $560 million a year, up from current deals totaling $2.4 billion over six years or $400 million a year.
What this means to you: Coming soon to a lot of stations near you! NASCAR continues to rev up its clout among advertisers and entertainment outlets, positioning itself for even greater growth.
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
Yep, that's right. I've been to 15 of them. So, I've lost......15 x 3......hmmmm, that's tough. Wait, what were we talking about again?
Don't waste your time with these guys cos they are just a bunch of ignorant video game playing little nerds who don't know shit about cars and man stuff
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
NASCAR fans are a sensitive lot. I had y'all pegged as being tougher than that...
I personally think the potential for crackers to burst into flames has to be worth something.
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What was sensitive about my post? I am familiar with the majority of the posters/nerds who made dumb/ignorant comments and thus just made a suggestion to her..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
-Hemingway
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Hemingway was a trophy hunter and I can't even begin to imagine a more cowardly past time. That being said, I'm a fan of his writing style. And weird that he wouldn't mention boxing seeing as how he was a boxer and that is way more of a real sport than any he mentioned.
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As a former amateur boxer, I don't know the answer to your valid question but I do have to agree with your assessment
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
A few of you seem kind of defensive about the subject in general. However, I really don't care one way or the other. I'm just fishin' for responses.
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Boxing is awesome. I admire any sport where you are willing to pit yourself against another human in combat. No tools, no machines, no balls, no end zones, just 1 on 1. To me, that is real competition.
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Like I said, I really couldn't care less about what the original poster personally thinks about Nascar..nor do I care about what people here have for lunch, or how much money they make, or who they are voting etc..just posting for the sake of posting
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
oy, a cracker bursting into flames?!?! wow, that kinda sucks...
know what??
I'm gonna watch Richmond this weekend...
The defensiveness might come from the fact that people dog on the sport calling a bunch of necks going in circles and they really have no idea what they're talking about. To be critical of anything that people enjoy when the party that is doing the criticizing doesn't know anything about it might cause some defensiveness.
I only comment on it becasue there are a lot of misconceptions about the sport and the people that enjoy it.
Like I said, I'd rather tailgate with these people anytime than go to a Pats-Dolphins game to get verbally harrased just because I root for the Dolphins and I live in NE. At least I won't threatened with violence and have shit thrown at me.
First time in 6 years I haven't been down there this weekend for this race.
Love me some short track racing....I really need to find someone new to root for cos after Rusty retired, rooting against Gordon just wasn't as much fun and didn't keep my interest :(..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
As a long time basketball junkie, I've heard many disparaging remarks about that sport too. Often times racists remarks from white folks. Everybody badmouths things they don't like, don't understand, or just aren't very good at.
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as for the sport itself, like with many things it's subjective...I could argue about art styles, music tastes, favorite foods, whatever - and there are bound to be some who agree and some who disagree...
I react towards people making stereotypical claims about the "type" of people that like a particular thing in a disparaging manner...
for example, the thread starter later implies superiority based on their dislike/disdain for Nascar itself.
For those who are guessing about demographics...This poster linked some for you. Very interesting if you ask me... there are a lot of links out there other than this that basically state the same demographics and stats.....
NASCAR Demographics
NASCAR is outpacing all other sports in growth of PAID attendance.
NASCAR has a fan base of nearly 75 million in United States.
On the average, a NASCAR fan will watch 18 races on television.
40% of NASCAR fans have children under the age of 18 (111 index vs. U.S. pop)
91% of NASCAR fans are high school graduates and 75% have at least some college education, or are college graduates.
74% of NASCAR fans own their own homes.
74% of NASCAR fans own two or more automobiles.
80% of NASCAR fans carry a major credit card.
96% of NASCAR fans use a personal computer.
The average income of a NASCAR fan is $43,280 annually, the average income of a family of four is $60,000.
1 in 5 NASCAR fans have a income of $75,000 or greater.
36% of NASCAR fans earn $50,000+ per year
10.1% of NASCAR fans are African-American, compared to 11.7% of NFL
NASCAR had more corporate revenue ($1.5 Bil.) money compared with $445 million for the NFL and $340 million for Major League Baseball.
NASCAR is actively in 38 states, promoting and sanctioning over 1,000 races.
72% of fans are more likely to buy a product if it is associated with NASCAR.
Over 65% of NASCAR fans that attend races, are out of towner's, or out state.
17 of top 20 attended sporting events in the U.S. are NASCAR races, with 300,000 at Indianapolis, 220,000 at Texas Motor Speedway (twice yearly), 170,000 Bristol Motor Speedway, TN (twice yearly), 180,000 at Lowe's Motor Speedway, NC (Twice yearly, not included All-Star Race)
agreed but if you added up all the local broadcasts of those sports I'd imagine it would still be a lot higher than NASCAR.