The only comment I can make on this book (which I have partially read) is...
Isn't it funny that she uses the ribbon the cover?
Take care.
Haha...good point. I have spent some time with Dr. King on a few occasions and will probably see her this November (so I'll be able to confirm this), but I believe she had very little to do with the way the book was designed and marketed. As she has argued many times 'racing for the cure' is good, but it often gets used in marketing ploys that donate very little money to breast cancer (see: Yoplait, Panera Bread) and by companies that actually make products that give people cancer (see: Ford, Avon, etc.).
The funny thing is I bet they will be all over the place during Trixie's run. The main point is to keep our eyes focused on what matters...both preventative care and curing breast (and other) forms of cancer. All too often we buy a bunch of stuff thinking we are doing the right thing b/c it has a pink ribbon on it, but don't actually investigate what's going on behind it. Enough about the book though...go Trixie!
The only comment I can make on this book (which I have partially read) is...
Isn't it funny that she uses the ribbon the cover?
Take care.
:mad:
WTF???
Yeah, the pink ribbon on the cover kills me...
So we should spend our time trying to find out why women get breast cancer???
How about this: My friend that had a double mastectomy was a vegetarian who indulged in a glass or 2 of red wine every night or so and used detergent without all of the harsh chemicals.
It runs in her family we found out.
Ugh...talk about making a profit off the pink ribbon.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
:mad:
WTF???
Yeah, the pink ribbon on the cover kills me...
So we should spend our time trying to find out why women get breast cancer???
How about this: My friend that had a double mastectomy was a vegetarian who indulged in a glass or 2 of red wine every night or so and used detergent without all of the harsh chemicals.
It runs in her family we found out.
Ugh...talk about making a profit off the pink ribbon.
It would be "nice" if they could find out what caused it, but each and every person's BC is different. I think we are light years away from cause and prevention in total. I think "since" women "get it", we should all focus on improving the therapies to keep us alive, and once they have that down pat, they can figure out why.
I have almost 0 family history, haven't taken BC pills in 15 years, had a child before I was 30, breast-fed him for (oh, I am so not going there--I don't need to hear it, LOL), have never been on HRT, and don't drink alcohol all the time. What else could I have done--cut them off at puberty?
I think Ryan was just passing along info. It's a different take when you have been there. I didn't want to be in this "club" (not 10C, the BC club), but it is kind of nice to see so many people rallying around BC.
I need to go and see your page again!
I still want you all to "take care"--I am just damn tired of typing it.
It would be "nice" if they could find out what caused it, but each and every person's BC is different. I think we are light years away from cause and prevention in total. I think "since" women "get it", we should all focus on improving the therapies to keep us alive, and once they have that down pat, they can figure out why.
I have almost 0 family history, haven't taken BC pills in 15 years, had a child before I was 30, breast-fed him for (oh, I am so not going there--I don't need to hear it, LOL), have never been on HRT, and don't drink alcohol all the time. What else could I have done--cut them off at puberty?
I think Ryan was just passing along info. It's a different take when you have been there. I didn't want to be in this "club" (not 10C, the BC club), but it is kind of nice to see so many people rallying around BC.
I need to go and see your page again!
Oh no...I understand what he was saying.
I am just mad that she had BC and she was living a very clean life.
And the pink ribbon on the cover of the book does piss me off.
I forgot to mention that she breastfed all 3 of her boys.
3 boys!!! And then BC! WTF???
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Oh no...I understand what he was saying.
I am just mad that she had BC and she was living a very clean life.
And the pink ribbon on the cover of the book does piss me off.
I forgot to mention that she breastfed all 3 of her boys.
3 boys!!! And then BC! WTF???
It sucks. It's not fair. It doesn't pick and choose. It doesn't care if your life is going great, or just fairly sh*tty. It doesn't care if you eat meat, organic, or take vitamins (or not). It doesn't care if you have a husband, a child, a business, family or friends. It is one uncaring, selfish bastard, that cancer.
I am super-psyched for the STUC show on 9/5. Not that I think we are going to have any answers then, but I think it will be a huge deal and bring people together. I mean--who hasn't had cancer affect their lives in some way?!?
I still want you all to "take care"--I am just damn tired of typing it.
:mad:
WTF???
Yeah, the pink ribbon on the cover kills me...
So we should spend our time trying to find out why women get breast cancer???
How about this: My friend that had a double mastectomy was a vegetarian who indulged in a glass or 2 of red wine every night or so and used detergent without all of the harsh chemicals.
It runs in her family we found out.
Ugh...talk about making a profit off the pink ribbon.
As I was writing before I don't think Dr. King had too much to do with the book cover, and definitely not the way it was marketed. But, let's face it, would you have picked up the book if it was all-black and tucked in a corner? The pink ribbon is a symbol that we, as a social society, recognize and tie to this ambiguous thing - Breast Cancer Awareness - so it makes sense that the marketers would do that. Also, it's not like Dr. King is driving around a Porsche or has a huge house so I'm pretty sure she didn't make a boatload of money off this book.
Anyway, the book is about both preventative and fund raising after you get cancer. The biggest thing she does, IMO, is bring to light the fact that while we buy Yoplait, or Ford Trucks thinking that its going to help breast cancer, these companies actually donate very little to the cause, and/or we could be more efficient with our money by purchasing store brands then donating our change from that savings to breast cancer research, etc.. When you are racing for the cure, on the other hand, all that money goes to the foundation.
The other part of the book that is particularly good (even if you aren't down with the idea of preventative care and/or finding a cure), its that even when a lot of money goes to breast cancer, there hasn't been concerted effort to spend the money in strategic ways. Either way, I have 6 sisters, and a wife (whose grandmother had breast cancer), so this is pretty important to me even if my odds of getting it aren't as high. I would never say you shouldn't buy yoplait, ford, or panera (the pink ribbon bagel is outrageously good) but just be aware of what is actually going on with your money - and that there may be better avenues (which you have found) to direct your donations. Once again, good luck, and if you run again next year when I am in my full-time job I will definitely sponsor you.
The other part of the book that is particularly good (even if you aren't down with the idea of preventative care and/or finding a cure), its that even when a lot of money goes to breast cancer, there hasn't been concerted effort to spend the money in strategic ways. Either way, I have 6 sisters, and a wife (whose grandmother had breast cancer), so this is pretty important to me even if my odds of getting it aren't as high. I would never say you shouldn't buy yoplait, ford, or panera (the pink ribbon bagel is outrageously good) but just be aware of what is actually going on with your money - and that there may be better avenues (which you have found) to direct your donations. Once again, good luck, and if you run again next year when I am in my full-time job I will definitely sponsor you.
I think we are all down with preventative care, but it just isn't there right now, and until they can get all the genetic issues of breast cancer figured out, preventative measures can't be solid. I am a bit biased, but I would rather see a cure, as I just don't think they are ever going to be able to figure out what solidly causes breast cancer. It could be a myriad of things, or just luck of the draw. Cancer has been around forever, and I don't think they had parabens or the pill hundreds of years ago. See what I mean?
I agree that some of the big campaigns are a bit misleading, but it does get the cause "out there" and fresh in people's minds all the time. I mean, people who haven't been affected personally by BC (specifically). I think we have all been affected by some cancer or another...
I don't seek and buy items that claim to donate to BC programs, but if those items are around the same price (and quality) as other items, I will buy them. Something is better than nothing. I think that when we are donating cash to a BC organization, most people choose something that does give most of those funds to the actual programs--like Komen, or some of the smaller groups that focus not only on research, but support. Believe me, support has been almost as important than the drugs...
BTW, 100% of the sales of Ford's "Warriors In Pink" merchandise goes directly to Komen.
Thanks for continuing this conversation. I think it's going nicely...
EDIT: Back to TrixieCat, and her most awesome fund-raising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still want you all to "take care"--I am just damn tired of typing it.
I just saw the ad for this in the free metro newspaper
awesome to be a part of a group of people like you all.
my finanicial situation sucks right now but maybe I'll just come thru to show support and do what I can to help
Aah, fuck it, I’m just gonna go home, turn on the fuckin’ TV...
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
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That is great!
I am excited for it. I have never done something like this.
And I think I am taking a surfing lesson next week. Another first.
YES! I did that this summer too. I love it.
Granted- it was paddle surfing, but still.. I was standing up, on a surfboard, in the waves.
It was awesome!!
"If you're looking for someone to pull you out of that ditch, you're out of luck."
YES! I did that this summer too. I love it.
Granted- it was paddle surfing, but still.. I was standing up, on a surfboard, in the waves.
It was awesome!!
Shut Up! We are doing the same cool things twins!
I am hoping it works out. My dental hygienist told me about the place she went to last month.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Comments
The only comment I can make on this book (which I have partially read) is...
Isn't it funny that she uses the ribbon the cover?
Take care.
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
The funny thing is I bet they will be all over the place during Trixie's run. The main point is to keep our eyes focused on what matters...both preventative care and curing breast (and other) forms of cancer. All too often we buy a bunch of stuff thinking we are doing the right thing b/c it has a pink ribbon on it, but don't actually investigate what's going on behind it. Enough about the book though...go Trixie!
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
WTF???
Yeah, the pink ribbon on the cover kills me...
So we should spend our time trying to find out why women get breast cancer???
How about this: My friend that had a double mastectomy was a vegetarian who indulged in a glass or 2 of red wine every night or so and used detergent without all of the harsh chemicals.
It runs in her family we found out.
Ugh...talk about making a profit off the pink ribbon.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
It would be "nice" if they could find out what caused it, but each and every person's BC is different. I think we are light years away from cause and prevention in total. I think "since" women "get it", we should all focus on improving the therapies to keep us alive, and once they have that down pat, they can figure out why.
I have almost 0 family history, haven't taken BC pills in 15 years, had a child before I was 30, breast-fed him for (oh, I am so not going there--I don't need to hear it, LOL), have never been on HRT, and don't drink alcohol all the time. What else could I have done--cut them off at puberty?
I think Ryan was just passing along info.
I need to go and see your page again!
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
I am just mad that she had BC and she was living a very clean life.
And the pink ribbon on the cover of the book does piss me off.
I forgot to mention that she breastfed all 3 of her boys.
3 boys!!! And then BC! WTF???
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
It sucks. It's not fair. It doesn't pick and choose. It doesn't care if your life is going great, or just fairly sh*tty. It doesn't care if you eat meat, organic, or take vitamins (or not). It doesn't care if you have a husband, a child, a business, family or friends. It is one uncaring, selfish bastard, that cancer.
I am super-psyched for the STUC show on 9/5. Not that I think we are going to have any answers then, but I think it will be a huge deal and bring people together. I mean--who hasn't had cancer affect their lives in some way?!?
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
Anyway, the book is about both preventative and fund raising after you get cancer. The biggest thing she does, IMO, is bring to light the fact that while we buy Yoplait, or Ford Trucks thinking that its going to help breast cancer, these companies actually donate very little to the cause, and/or we could be more efficient with our money by purchasing store brands then donating our change from that savings to breast cancer research, etc.. When you are racing for the cure, on the other hand, all that money goes to the foundation.
The other part of the book that is particularly good (even if you aren't down with the idea of preventative care and/or finding a cure), its that even when a lot of money goes to breast cancer, there hasn't been concerted effort to spend the money in strategic ways. Either way, I have 6 sisters, and a wife (whose grandmother had breast cancer), so this is pretty important to me even if my odds of getting it aren't as high. I would never say you shouldn't buy yoplait, ford, or panera (the pink ribbon bagel is outrageously good) but just be aware of what is actually going on with your money - and that there may be better avenues (which you have found) to direct your donations. Once again, good luck, and if you run again next year when I am in my full-time job I will definitely sponsor you.
I think we are all down with preventative care, but it just isn't there right now, and until they can get all the genetic issues of breast cancer figured out, preventative measures can't be solid. I am a bit biased, but I would rather see a cure, as I just don't think they are ever going to be able to figure out what solidly causes breast cancer. It could be a myriad of things, or just luck of the draw. Cancer has been around forever, and I don't think they had parabens or the pill hundreds of years ago. See what I mean?
I agree that some of the big campaigns are a bit misleading, but it does get the cause "out there" and fresh in people's minds all the time. I mean, people who haven't been affected personally by BC (specifically). I think we have all been affected by some cancer or another...
I don't seek and buy items that claim to donate to BC programs, but if those items are around the same price (and quality) as other items, I will buy them. Something is better than nothing. I think that when we are donating cash to a BC organization, most people choose something that does give most of those funds to the actual programs--like Komen, or some of the smaller groups that focus not only on research, but support. Believe me, support has been almost as important than the drugs...
BTW, 100% of the sales of Ford's "Warriors In Pink" merchandise goes directly to Komen.
Thanks for continuing this conversation. I think it's going nicely...
EDIT: Back to TrixieCat, and her most awesome fund-raising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
You made me smile.
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
awesome to be a part of a group of people like you all.
my finanicial situation sucks right now but maybe I'll just come thru to show support and do what I can to help
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
************************************
yay!! I love to make people laugh and smile... makes the heart and soul feel better!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
I'm running this too!!
I am excited for it. I have never done something like this.
And I think I am taking a surfing lesson next week. Another first.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
www.myspace.com/kosmicjelli
as soon as i get paid on the 1st i'll chip in my contribution too!
YES! I did that this summer too. I love it.
Granted- it was paddle surfing, but still.. I was standing up, on a surfboard, in the waves.
It was awesome!!
www.myspace.com/kosmicjelli
I am hoping it works out. My dental hygienist told me about the place she went to last month.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
And I don't feel right when you're gone away