I don't like business, I like science and policy. I don't like day-to-day bottom-line kinds of jobs. I talked to a few industry positions while I was looking for this job, and they didn't really appeal to me, so I'm just not sure if it would be something I'd want to invest another year of my life in.
there are R&D jobs in industry, it's not all pencil pushing. then again if you are wanting to do something for the environment, perhaps a nonprofit or something would be more in line with what your heart is wanting. not as much money of course, but you can't have everything.
I know that, but for the kinds of things I'd want to do they are mostly centered on DC.
might be opportunities on a state level rather than federal.
I actually love *working* you know, in the sense of doing something productive, challenging, etc. I just don't like...jobs. It just makes me feel so bad about myself because I know I could be doing a better job, but I just can't FOCUS.
what is the difference between working and working at a job? if you're making the connection between your job and feeling bad about yourself....it's not about your job.
I'm an elementary school teacher, and it's great! It's definitely difficult and very frustrating at times, and it's a lot of work (much more than the general public realizes and cares to give credit for), but it's rewarding and I NEVER have a boring day. One of the greatest perks for me is that while there is a routine (which I like to have), every day is different. There's so much variety.
Plus, teachers are constantly taking courses and attending workshops. Teachers are always learning.
I wish I could shake your hand!! Teachers are so under appreciated.
They are NOT babysitters and are truly amazing people!!
The best use of Life is Love.
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I wish I could shake your hand!! Teachers are so under appreciated.
They are NOT babysitters and are truly amazing people!!
i agree. Teachers rock. well most do. i had some shitty teachers that really didnt care. but i chalk some of that up to the not being appreciated, and the shitty pay.
Peace, Love.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
there are R&D jobs in industry, it's not all pencil pushing. then again if you are wanting to do something for the environment, perhaps a nonprofit or something would be more in line with what your heart is wanting. not as much money of course, but you can't have everything.
might be opportunities on a state level rather than federal.
what is the difference between working and working at a job? if you're making the connection between your job and feeling bad about yourself....it's not about your job.
yes, yes, obviously I have thought about all these things. I'm not going to get into all the intricate details of my career. I am quite aware of the various opportunities in my profession, I just haven't quite found one that fits my particular situation, but that's not really my point.
most people can force their minds to focus on things. I can't.
there is a difference between working and working at a job. working at a job is just not SATISFYING. It is extremely difficult to explain, but let's just put it this way: "It's not that I'm lazy bob, it's that I just don't care."
plus I really, really, really have never been able to sit still for so long and adhere to other people's schedules. I function well in school because if I am having trouble focusing on one thing, I can go away from it- do something totally different, work on another class, hell watch TV, read a book if possible, and then come back to it when my mind is more ready to focus on it, even if that's at 2 am or the next day-whenever I happen to get inspired. Being forced to sit in an office and stare at *one* spreadsheet between the hours of 9 and 7 with no other options just isn't how I work. I'm sorry, it just isn't. I physically can't do it (and frankly it's hard to inspired when your entire purpose in life is data manipulation for projects that no one will tell you anything about and you don't understand anyway because you're not an electrical engineer!). Go ahead everyone, insult me, swear at me, call me names. that's how it is. I've been dealing with this shit for years.
yes, yes, obviously I have thought about all these things. I'm not going to get into all the intricate details of my career. I am quite aware of the various opportunities in my profession, I just haven't quite found one that fits my particular situation, but that's not really my point.
most people can force their minds to focus on things. I can't.
there is a difference between working and working at a job. working at a job is just not SATISFYING. It is extremely difficult to explain, but let's just put it this way: "It's not that I'm lazy bob, it's that I just don't care."
plus I really, really, really have never been able to sit still for so long and adhere to other people's schedules. I function well in school because if I am having trouble focusing on one thing, I can go away from it- do something totally different, work on another class, hell watch TV, read a book if possible, and then come back to it when my mind is more ready to focus on it. Being forced to sit in an office and stare at *one* spreadsheet between the hours of 9 and 7 with no other options just isn't how I work. I'm sorry, it just isn't. I physically can't do it. Go ahead everyone, insult me, swear at me, call me names. that's how it is. I've been dealing with this shit for years.
okay you and i have discussed b4 that i believe you have depression issues.
depression makes it really hard to focus on things you like, hell love, let alone boring shit that you really dont care about.
maybe you are ADD , maybe both. i still stand behind going to talk to someone, and will untill you are on here only talking about how great your life is. : )
Peace, Love.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
okay you and i have discussed b4 that i believe you have depression issues.
depression makes it really hard to focus on things you like, hell love, let alone boring shit that you really dont care about.
maybe you are ADD , maybe both. i still stand behind going to talk to someone, and will untill you are on here only talking about how great your life is. : )
the psychiatrist I saw said I probably am not ADD because I was able to work very well in college and because women with ADD are usually not so hyper active.
ha, and if I am depressed working is the cause! My entire...being...seems to be brought down when I am in a job full time as opposed to when I am learning.
the psychiatrist I saw said I probably am not ADD because I was able to work very well in college and because women with ADD are usually not so hyper active.
ha, and if I am depressed working is the cause! My entire...being...seems to be brought down when I am in a job full time as opposed to when I am learning.
and when did you see this psychiatrist? if it was years ago then things change. and if it's not a matter of focus but not caring about work, then that's AGAIN an issue of depression. that hinders focus. if you really are concerned about focus then see a doctor about it.
were you happy even when you were in school? i'm going to guess no.
you can use everything as a smokescreen (work, etc) but until you deal with the common denominator, nothing else is going to get better.
and when did you see this psychiatrist? if it was years ago then things change. and if it's not a matter of focus but not caring about work, then that's AGAIN an issue of depression. that hinders focus. if you really are concerned about focus then see a doctor about it.
were you happy even when you were in school? i'm going to guess no.
you can use everything as a smokescreen (work, etc) but until you deal with the common denominator, nothing else is going to get better.
I saw the psychiatrist last year. fall 2006-winter 2007.
I was happy in school. not all the time of course, no one is. But when you are in work, you're sitting alone all day in silence. Whatever problems I am having (and right now I have a lot of things on my mind)- there is just too much time to think about them at work. That's why by default, school is just way better. your mind is active, you feel productive, you are learning, you have hopes and dreams that you are going to do something amazing in your life (sounds cheesy, but it's so true. when you are in school, your professors encourage you and you are free to express ideas and dive into projects and you hear about amazing earth-changing things that people are doing in the world and you learn about exciting science and you are free to think about anything you want without having to worry if you're ever going to get paid to think about such things, because things that are interesting are not the things that allow you pay your rent and you honestly think that you are going to get a cool job and rock the world and then you get a job and all hope dies).
I saw the psychiatrist last year. fall 2006-winter 2007.
I was happy in school. not all the time of course, no one is. But when you are in work, you're sitting alone all day in silence. Whatever problems I am having (and right now I have a lot of things on my mind)- there is just too much time to think about them at work. That's why by default, school is just way better. your mind is active, you feel productive, you are learning, you have hopes and dreams that you are going to do something amazing in your life (sounds cheesy, but it's so true. when you are in school, your professors encourage you and you are free to express ideas and dive into projects and you hear about amazing earth-changing things that people are doing in the world and you learn about exciting science and you are free to think about anything you want without having to worry if you're ever going to get paid to think about such things, because things that are interesting are not the things that allow you pay your rent and you honestly think that you are going to get a cool job and rock the world and then you get a job and all hope dies).
well i'd consider seeing someone new just in case, with one's body changing all the time, and medications and such, there might be something different going on now that can be treated so focus won't be such a challenge!
all hope dies once you get a job?? sure, life isn't as idealistic as when one is in school, but just because you finish school doesn't mean you finish learning. goes back to the suggestion someone gave about a hobby, doing something outside of work that stimulates your mind and truly interests you. even though i like my job and it's stimulating intellectually i still seek out things beyond work that feed into that need. no job is going to fulfill you completely as a human being.
wait I can relate to this, I am a people person. I don't do well with "desk' jobs or office type jobs, esp. computer oriented type of work.
If I had to stare at spread sheets I wouldn't be happy either.
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GTD, you're just in a rut. Do you think the rest of us like our jobs? nope! But I leave at the time I'm supposed to leave every day and once I leave work, it's back to living. If you're working 12-15 hours a day no wonder you're fucking depressed. You can either keep making excuses while complaining and asking for help... OR you can do something about it. My feeling is that you're gonna go with the former... so get used to being depressed, get used to being in a rut... cos it's not gonna get any better! That's just how life is. Going with the flow is great but sometimes it just stops flowing and ya need to make some waves yourself. Or ya can just sit back and let it eat you up... your choice. We've all seen for ourselves that none of US can give you that push. So do something... or don't... it really IS that simple.
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GTD, you're just in a rut. Do you think the rest of us like our jobs? nope! But I leave at the time I'm supposed to leave every day and once I leave work, it's back to living. If you're working 12-15 hours a day no wonder you're fucking depressed. You can either keep making excuses while complaining and asking for help... OR you can do something about it. My feeling is that you're gonna go with the former... so get used to being depressed, get used to being in a rut... cos it's not gonna get any better! That's just how life is. Going with the flow is great but sometimes it just stops flowing and ya need to make some waves yourself. Or ya can just sit back and let it eat you up... your choice. We've all seen for ourselves that none of US can give you that push. So do something... or don't... it really IS that simple.
well after 6 months when my job didn't get any better I did start to look into things. I think I mentioned it earlier, but I can't leave until *at least* august (my signing bonus is long gone). but I've gone back to my job spreadsheet from grad school and am revisiting some of the ideas on there. even though I don't want to move at the moment, I'm checking the world bank and the UN every day (even though my professors told me I'll never get hired at either one). I need something that will either pay back my loans (federal government) or will pay me enough to to cover them (will be difficult).
it's just the day-to-day in this office that I don't know if I can handle. I want to do a good job, I always want to do a good job. But I hate only have one boring thing to think about at a time.
does it bother anyone else as much as it bothers me? Seriously it's like a gut reaction for me to resist putting my head on things I am not interested in. it sort of makes me head tingle and I feel slightly nauseous.
I need to go to school again...I wish I had the money. work makes me want to gauge my eyeballs out.
I don't understand your question, sorry!
do you mean that you'd rather not work on a boring task at work?
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I mean *can't* work on boring tasks (at work or anywhere else, but most them seem to appear at work).
join the club who the fuck can in fairness?
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
obviously lots of people can! or else nothing would ever get done. I'm surrounded by people right now who can.
well they're just freaks.. or they have a different concept of boredom... the things you enjoy at work may be boring to them.
Some people can just grin and bear it... for others its torture... but it's perfectly normal
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
eh I listen to music all day. it doesn't really help.
:rolleyes: Well DON'T listen to it then... see if THAT helps.
Are you really looking for advice on how to make work interesting? Cos sometimes work is just boring! That's why they PAY us to do it.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Not many people are! They're a tiny bunch. So just get on with it, like the rest of us.
i'm sorry but this thread is just ridiculous 'I find it hard to focus on boring things' ??? EVERYBODY does... if you're making THAT into one of your problems, you're wasting your time... cos that may be the most normal 'problem' I've heard you come up with.
Now excuse me while I go find the ignore function before I pull all my hair out or knock myself out while banging my head against this brick wall :eek:
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
:rolleyes: Well DON'T listen to it then... see if THAT helps.
Are you really looking for advice on how to make work interesting? Cos sometimes work is just boring! That's why they PAY us to do it.
well it's always boring for me. I can't do it so I feel horrible because I shouldn't be getting paid.
I wasn't thinking that anyone could give advice on making it more interesting, I was just really wondering if anyone else felt like sort of dull pain and nausea when they try to focus on something really dumb and tedious. I get this urge to smash things and break things, including myself. like it's a good thing there are no baseball bats in my office, because I would be dead (I sit here and wish I had one to smash things and myself with). I tend to hit myself in the head with my water bottle and my hands when I have to do this work or I want to just jump around and smash things like I just HATE it (and sitting in the little office for most of the day- you know, just sitting and getting fat- doesn't help). :(
I'm sorry that you don't believe me that I really hate it so much. :(
Let me get this straight.... you are recently out of college, and you don't have a job that you like? Welcome to the 90% of the young workforce.
Keep looking for new jobs or building contacts through professional groups, and hopefully you can find something when your year comes around. You took the signing bonus knowing that you would have to stay for a year (or return it), so you have to suck it up and deal with it.
Being in a miserable job sucks, but you have to make the best of it, or at least make the best of your time when you are away from work.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Ok, in 8 years of working, you haven't found a job that you enjoy, or figured out how to cope with a boring job?
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
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there are R&D jobs in industry, it's not all pencil pushing. then again if you are wanting to do something for the environment, perhaps a nonprofit or something would be more in line with what your heart is wanting. not as much money of course, but you can't have everything.
might be opportunities on a state level rather than federal.
what is the difference between working and working at a job? if you're making the connection between your job and feeling bad about yourself....it's not about your job.
I wish I could shake your hand!! Teachers are so under appreciated.
They are NOT babysitters and are truly amazing people!!
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
i agree. Teachers rock. well most do. i had some shitty teachers that really didnt care. but i chalk some of that up to the not being appreciated, and the shitty pay.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
yes, yes, obviously I have thought about all these things. I'm not going to get into all the intricate details of my career. I am quite aware of the various opportunities in my profession, I just haven't quite found one that fits my particular situation, but that's not really my point.
most people can force their minds to focus on things. I can't.
there is a difference between working and working at a job. working at a job is just not SATISFYING. It is extremely difficult to explain, but let's just put it this way: "It's not that I'm lazy bob, it's that I just don't care."
plus I really, really, really have never been able to sit still for so long and adhere to other people's schedules. I function well in school because if I am having trouble focusing on one thing, I can go away from it- do something totally different, work on another class, hell watch TV, read a book if possible, and then come back to it when my mind is more ready to focus on it, even if that's at 2 am or the next day-whenever I happen to get inspired. Being forced to sit in an office and stare at *one* spreadsheet between the hours of 9 and 7 with no other options just isn't how I work. I'm sorry, it just isn't. I physically can't do it (and frankly it's hard to inspired when your entire purpose in life is data manipulation for projects that no one will tell you anything about and you don't understand anyway because you're not an electrical engineer!). Go ahead everyone, insult me, swear at me, call me names. that's how it is. I've been dealing with this shit for years.
okay you and i have discussed b4 that i believe you have depression issues.
depression makes it really hard to focus on things you like, hell love, let alone boring shit that you really dont care about.
maybe you are ADD , maybe both. i still stand behind going to talk to someone, and will untill you are on here only talking about how great your life is. : )
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
the psychiatrist I saw said I probably am not ADD because I was able to work very well in college and because women with ADD are usually not so hyper active.
ha, and if I am depressed working is the cause! My entire...being...seems to be brought down when I am in a job full time as opposed to when I am learning.
were you happy even when you were in school? i'm going to guess no.
you can use everything as a smokescreen (work, etc) but until you deal with the common denominator, nothing else is going to get better.
I saw the psychiatrist last year. fall 2006-winter 2007.
I was happy in school. not all the time of course, no one is. But when you are in work, you're sitting alone all day in silence. Whatever problems I am having (and right now I have a lot of things on my mind)- there is just too much time to think about them at work. That's why by default, school is just way better. your mind is active, you feel productive, you are learning, you have hopes and dreams that you are going to do something amazing in your life (sounds cheesy, but it's so true. when you are in school, your professors encourage you and you are free to express ideas and dive into projects and you hear about amazing earth-changing things that people are doing in the world and you learn about exciting science and you are free to think about anything you want without having to worry if you're ever going to get paid to think about such things, because things that are interesting are not the things that allow you pay your rent and you honestly think that you are going to get a cool job and rock the world and then you get a job and all hope dies).
all hope dies once you get a job?? sure, life isn't as idealistic as when one is in school, but just because you finish school doesn't mean you finish learning. goes back to the suggestion someone gave about a hobby, doing something outside of work that stimulates your mind and truly interests you. even though i like my job and it's stimulating intellectually i still seek out things beyond work that feed into that need. no job is going to fulfill you completely as a human being.
If I had to stare at spread sheets I wouldn't be happy either.
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
6-01-06
6/25/08
Free Speedy
and Metsy!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
well after 6 months when my job didn't get any better I did start to look into things. I think I mentioned it earlier, but I can't leave until *at least* august (my signing bonus is long gone). but I've gone back to my job spreadsheet from grad school and am revisiting some of the ideas on there. even though I don't want to move at the moment, I'm checking the world bank and the UN every day (even though my professors told me I'll never get hired at either one). I need something that will either pay back my loans (federal government) or will pay me enough to to cover them (will be difficult).
it's just the day-to-day in this office that I don't know if I can handle. I want to do a good job, I always want to do a good job. But I hate only have one boring thing to think about at a time.
I don't understand your question, sorry!
do you mean that you'd rather not work on a boring task at work?
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10/10 - Brad in B'more
you quietly put the head sets on a play a pearl jam bootleg.
definitely a mood lifter.
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
I mean *can't* work on boring tasks (at work or anywhere else, but most them seem to appear at work).
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
put on the headsets and play a pearl jam bootleg.
definitely a mood lifter. works for me.
i'll edit it, or play a foo fighters' cd.
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
obviously lots of people can! or else nothing would ever get done. I'm surrounded by people right now who can.
eh I listen to music all day. it doesn't really help.
Some people can just grin and bear it... for others its torture... but it's perfectly normal
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Are you really looking for advice on how to make work interesting? Cos sometimes work is just boring! That's why they PAY us to do it.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I wish I were part of the former group :(.
good point
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
i'm sorry but this thread is just ridiculous 'I find it hard to focus on boring things' ???
Now excuse me while I go find the ignore function before I pull all my hair out or knock myself out while banging my head against this brick wall :eek:
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
well it's always boring for me. I can't do it so I feel horrible because I shouldn't be getting paid.
I wasn't thinking that anyone could give advice on making it more interesting, I was just really wondering if anyone else felt like sort of dull pain and nausea when they try to focus on something really dumb and tedious. I get this urge to smash things and break things, including myself. like it's a good thing there are no baseball bats in my office, because I would be dead (I sit here and wish I had one to smash things and myself with). I tend to hit myself in the head with my water bottle and my hands when I have to do this work or I want to just jump around and smash things like I just HATE it (and sitting in the little office for most of the day- you know, just sitting and getting fat- doesn't help). :(
I'm sorry that you don't believe me that I really hate it so much. :(
Keep looking for new jobs or building contacts through professional groups, and hopefully you can find something when your year comes around. You took the signing bonus knowing that you would have to stay for a year (or return it), so you have to suck it up and deal with it.
Being in a miserable job sucks, but you have to make the best of it, or at least make the best of your time when you are away from work.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
no I've been out of college for 8 years.
This is funny.
Probably not very good psychiatrist/psychologists
Ok, in 8 years of working, you haven't found a job that you enjoy, or figured out how to cope with a boring job?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
That could be the BIGGEST understatement EVER made on this board.
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