It's my theory that the religous freaks are so against gay marriage just because they'll be embarrssed when comparing divorce rates. hetero couple have about a 50% divorce rate. Homo couples will probably have a 20% divorce rate, or lower
i've never heard of a non-religious marriage. . .isn't that called a civil union or something?. . .as roland mentioned, i don't get why gay people would want to get married, for a tax break?
No, a civil union is for same-sex people. Maybe it doesn't happen in America but elsewhere people realise that marriage doesn't need to have anything to do with religion and they can get married in a registry office.
As for asking why gay people would want to get married, what the fuck?! Why does ANYONE want to get married? Gay people are no different.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
What about non-religious marriages? As I said before, my parents were married (yes, married) in a registry office. The only thing separating their communion from a gay civil partnership is the name.
Good point. Using the "religious tradition" argument is also saying that straight atheists shouldn't legally be allowed to marry. Or anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible.
As you said, it's completely indefensible.
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Why do people care what other people do with their lives?
It makes NO SENSE!!
Agree, as long as it doesn't affect or influence others beliefs on a personal level, I say go for it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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Good point. Using the "religious tradition" argument is also saying that straight atheists shouldn't legally be allowed to marry. Or anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible.
As you said, it's completely indefensible.
Why would atheists feel compelled go to a church and become institutionalised under the umbrella of religion in the first place?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
So, atheists and people from non-Judeo-Christian backgrounds shouldn't be allowed to marry either?
They're not truly considered atheists at that point are they?
Many, if not all religions, consider marriage a straight endeavor. I can't think of one religion that openly condones gay marriage offhand in scripture.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Why would atheists feel compelled go to a church and become institutionalised under the umbrella of religion in the first place?
Read Jeremy1012's posts.
I would imagine most people find marriage to be a social institution rather than a religious one, including myself. I guess they shouldn't be allowed to marry either?
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I would imagine most people find marriage to be a social institution rather than a religious one, including myself. I guess they shouldn't be allowed to marry either?
It's held under a religious ceremony by a priest to the point that if the priest isn't legit, it doesn't even count...null and void. If that isn't strict religious code, I don't know what is.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i've never heard of a non-religious marriage. . .isn't that called a civil union or something?. . .as roland mentioned, i don't get why gay people would want to get married, for a tax break?
You've never heard of a non-religious marriage? I was brought up totally absent of religion, my husband does not practice religion, and we were married in a state park in Nevada on the red rock formations..
You've never heard of a non-religious marriage? I was brought up totally absent of religion, my husband does not practice religion, and we were married in a state park in Nevada on the red rock formations..
non-religious? completely.
Our wedding (which took place in a hotel room and was presided over by some lady we found on the internet, lol) was fully non-religious, too.
In any event, tax, insurance purposes, survivor rights, medical rights, property ownership, and support issues should have nothing to do with who your chosen person in life is, if you sign a legally binding agreement with another person regardless of the traditional ceremony aspect.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
It's held under a religious ceremony by a priest to the point that if the priest isn't legit, it doesn't even count...null and void. If that isn't strict religious code, I don't know what is.
Can you really not be married in a secular service in America? Because you can in the UK. That is my point. In the UK, if this proposition was introduced, it would be logical to extend it to atheists and members of non-Church of England denominations and THAT would be obscene. Atheists here can get married. It is not a religious ceremony, they are married by a registrar, not a member of the clergy.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
You've never heard of a non-religious marriage? I was brought up totally absent of religion, my husband does not practice religion, and we were married in a state park in Nevada on the red rock formations..
non-religious? completely.
Exactly. My guitar player conducted my marriage next to a raging waterfall in the middle of nowhere Wyoming. If anyone would have even brought religion up, I would have tossed them in the river to their death.
Roland and his ilk make me ill. I wish he would have been at my wedding talking about god... or gay weddings.
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i am fat i am for gay marriage for sure .....
and you should be banned here ...
i dont think you understand what the opening poster is saying.
he's using satire to say that gay people should be allowed to marry.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
fat people should be banned from unicycling maybe, definitely from lycra legging stores... but not marriage... and gay folk can do what they want, i'm more scared of christian americans than i am of gay men... and i have a very taught and cute tooshie
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
The fact that the religious anti-gay marriage crowd think that they "own" marriage is appalling.
Indeed.
That there are those who aren't against gay marriage per se but believe that judao-christian people deserve to preserve the sanctity of their own marriages by disregarding gay marriage is just as bad.
"Oh no, we can't annoy the christians, please gay people, please be content with being treated as if your love is wrong, the christians will leave us all alone if you do and you can just get a civil partnership instead after all".
Fuck that. What century are we in?
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Can you really not be married in a secular service in America? Because you can in the UK. That is my point. In the UK, if this proposition was introduced, it would be logical to extend it to atheists and members of non-Church of England denominations and THAT would be obscene. Atheists here can get married. It is not a religious ceremony, they are married by a registrar, not a member of the clergy.
My ex and I got married in a registry office. He's an atheist in every way. There was no mention of God in the entire service. I could call it a civil union, but I don't have to and neither should anyone else.
I swear something happens every day leaving me to ask that same question...
I know! :mad: It's starting to frighten me how thoroughly messed up the world is. I feel like I'm living through a retrospective of all the most retarded aspects of every era of human existence.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
My ex and I got married in a registry office. He's an atheist in every way. There was no mention of God in the entire service. I could call it a civil union, but I don't have to and neither should anyone else.
Exactly And I just checked my badass hefty dictionary and not once in a multi-item entry for 'marriage' does Collins mention religion.
It is the relationship between a husband and wife. Now I want to hear an anti-gay marriage christian telling me that Urbanhippie was never a wife and never had a husband.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Exactly And I just checked my badass hefty dictionary and not once in a multi-item entry for 'marriage' does Collins mention religion.
It is the relationship between a husband and wife. Now I want to hear an anti-gay marriage christian telling me that Urbanhippie was never a wife and never had a husband.
Go for it. It'll save me fortune on divorce lawyers if I can prove THAT!
In fact, in the UK a solely religious ceremony must also be followed by a civil ceremony to be lawful. If you just get married in a church and don't sign the CIVIL register you're not married in law. Some people do this all in one go, others will have a seperate ceremony for each.
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what are you basing your 20% on? just wondering.
It makes NO SENSE!!
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As for asking why gay people would want to get married, what the fuck?! Why does ANYONE want to get married? Gay people are no different.
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Good point. Using the "religious tradition" argument is also saying that straight atheists shouldn't legally be allowed to marry. Or anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible.
As you said, it's completely indefensible.
Agree, as long as it doesn't affect or influence others beliefs on a personal level, I say go for it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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So, atheists and people from non-Judeo-Christian backgrounds shouldn't be allowed to marry either?
Why would atheists feel compelled go to a church and become institutionalised under the umbrella of religion in the first place?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
They're not truly considered atheists at that point are they?
Many, if not all religions, consider marriage a straight endeavor. I can't think of one religion that openly condones gay marriage offhand in scripture.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Read Jeremy1012's posts.
I would imagine most people find marriage to be a social institution rather than a religious one, including myself. I guess they shouldn't be allowed to marry either?
It's held under a religious ceremony by a priest to the point that if the priest isn't legit, it doesn't even count...null and void. If that isn't strict religious code, I don't know what is.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
You've never heard of a non-religious marriage? I was brought up totally absent of religion, my husband does not practice religion, and we were married in a state park in Nevada on the red rock formations..
non-religious? completely.
Our wedding (which took place in a hotel room and was presided over by some lady we found on the internet, lol) was fully non-religious, too.
but it sounds, fully kinky!
haha just kidding!... maybe :eek:
lol! :eek:
Nah, not kinky in the least. Our families were present.
Now, AFTER the ceremony...that's a different story!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
and you should be banned here ...
Exactly. My guitar player conducted my marriage next to a raging waterfall in the middle of nowhere Wyoming. If anyone would have even brought religion up, I would have tossed them in the river to their death.
Roland and his ilk make me ill. I wish he would have been at my wedding talking about god... or gay weddings.
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i dont think you understand what the opening poster is saying.
he's using satire to say that gay people should be allowed to marry.
he too is a lard ass.
perhaps he likes wearing his XXXXL ballerina outfit with the gimp mask on
as i drip candle wax on his fat hairy ass, why can't we get married?
we are fat, limp wristed, and in love.
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That there are those who aren't against gay marriage per se but believe that judao-christian people deserve to preserve the sanctity of their own marriages by disregarding gay marriage is just as bad.
"Oh no, we can't annoy the christians, please gay people, please be content with being treated as if your love is wrong, the christians will leave us all alone if you do and you can just get a civil partnership instead after all".
Fuck that. What century are we in?
I swear something happens every day leaving me to ask that same question...
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It is the relationship between a husband and wife. Now I want to hear an anti-gay marriage christian telling me that Urbanhippie was never a wife and never had a husband.
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