If the judge is in a shirt and tie then it might be best that you dress that way too. I don't believe I did I'm not the shirt and tie kind of a guy. Besides this was a small town court out in the country but whatever edge you you can get, USE IT!
Quick story a week ago I was at Sunfest Festival, FL and went back stage with George Clinton and Michael Franti and Spearhead and while driving recalled the shows in my head. Well I came back to reality with the flashing lights and me being clocked from a stop light at 61-45. I turned on ALL the inside lights (it was nightime), I gave the officer what he wanted I even read clearly my insurance info. I was asked if I had any weapons, drugs and if I had been drinking, I said NO of course and most importantly I made serious eye contact.
For some reason unknown to me he let me go from a $245.00 ticket. I couldn't believe it, I had to give him a second look and a thank you. I don't know if this will help but it pays to be g under p....Graceful Under Pressure.
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Listen to us cat people -- get dressed up for court (shirt & tie). It shows your respect of the judicial system. Don't read a book, do a crossword puzzle, or talk to the guy sitting next to you during court. Traffic court is usually packed, so it may take an entire morning or afternoon. Don't let it annoy you. You don't sound like the type who would get an attitude, though. Think of it as a learning experience. And enjoy the other people's stories. Sometimes the excuses are really funny.
The problem, Hinny, is that in our country a conviction on a speeding ticket can lead to points on our driver's licenses, which gives the insurance companies the ability to jack up our insurance rates. If it were just a question of admitting that we made a mistake & taking responsibility for our actions, and paying a fine, I'd agree with you. But it's ridiculous that our system allows insurance companies to deem people who speed (and haven't caused an accident) as risky drivers, and to charge them more money.
if the judge is a young woman, you'll have no problem once she sees the Ashton Kutcher resemblance
Unfortunately my good looks, stunning personality, and desirable qualities can't save me this time. I'm being judged by Ben C. Clyburn (Chief Judge). Unless of course he's into that then maybe.... And to answer your earlier question, I was short a culture class, so I'm officially graduating in a few days.
It's funny looking at my notice: State of Maryland VS. Me
Sounds like I did something extreme like murder some people.
Unfortunately my good looks, stunning personality, and desirable qualities can't save me this time. I'm being judged by Ben C. Clyburn (Chief Judge). Unless of course he's into that then maybe.... And to answer your earlier question, I was short a culture class, so I'm officially graduating in a few days.
It's funny looking at my notice: State of Maryland VS. Me
Sounds like I did something extreme like murder some people.
are you calling the cashier at the court house? you better find out what we discussed. I am not bailing you out of jail. I need my money for beer and hot dogs at pearl jam shows.
9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
Danny -- What county did you get your speeding ticket in? I think Judge Clyburn's name is on your notice of the hearing date because he's the chief judge of the District Court of Maryland -- not because he's going to hear your case. It's unusual to know the actual judge until you get to traffic clerk that day. So you may get a young female judge (or even an older one who likes Ashton Kutcher types). Did you happen to call the clerk's office to see who the judge will be? Sometimes you can luck out & they'll tell you ahead of time. Just remember humility & resepct for the judicial system, and you should make out fine. A speeding ticket is not the end of the world!
Baltimore County, 20 feet from my campus (sucks because I'd have definitely made sure I wasn't going over 25 at that point. Campus police have nothing better to do....)
So he won't be hearing my case? And you say they might tell me who will? I'll give them a call tomorrow before 5PM and see.
No, it definitely won't be Clyburn. He does mostly adminstrative stuff, and his office is in Annapolis. You go to UMBC? So you'll be in the District Court in Catonsville? Call the clerk there (410-512-2500) to see if they'll tell you who the judge will be. There are several female District Court judges in Baltimore County. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!
I've had at least 10 speeding tickets in five diffierent states over the 30 or so years I've been driving... I've always sent them back not guilty and everyone was reduced or thrown out with a nolle...
Generally speaking on your first visit to traffic court you'll meet the prosecutor who will likely offer you a deal... reduced fine and a charge for less points. TAKE THE DEAL... You don't want to go back and risk getting hammered by the judge...
One ticket I got up in the sticks between Albany and Pittsfield MA I brought my then 2 y/o son for a sympathy factor... I was working two jobs, etc...
It was like a kangaroo court there... The cops were there prosecuting their own tickets... I watch the judge hammer each person who after being offered a deal rejected it and wanted a trial... I changed my plea and paid up then as the others were paying double fines + court costs...
So pay attention to what's happening before you get to your turn...
Best one was I got popped for 85 in a 65 and I was likely doing 100, I questioned the cop, when he caught up with me, why he wrote me a ticket when all my buddies got warnings, etc... After all i was polite, coopperative, and such (and wasn't drunk...) and he said he just wrote them up and let the judge sort them out... So of course I plead not guilty and show up on the appointed day and the prosecutor calls me (an older gentlement in his 60's) and he showed me the ticket... the cop had made a bunch of notes on it, likely the whole how long it took to catch up to me and what I asked him about warnings and such. The prosecutor asked me if I knew what the notes said and I told him I had a pretty good idea... He asked me "then what the hell are you doing here, pleading not guilty?" and I responded "I'm a nice guy, I pay my taxes and I was hoping for a break?"... He and the security sheriff laughed out loud and he told me to go home... (So it does work...)
1996: Randall's Island I, Hartford
1998: MSG I, Hartford
2000: Jones Beach I
2003: Albany, MSG II, Mansfield II & III, Homdel
2004: Boston (VFC) I & II
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I and E. Rutherford I
2008: MSG I & II, Hartford, Mansfield II (saw BostonLou in the FRONT ROW!!) EV-NYC II
2010: Hartford
2013 Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Fenway I 2018 Wrigley II, Fenway II
No, it definitely won't be Clyburn. He does mostly adminstrative stuff, and his office is in Annapolis. You go to UMBC? So you'll be in the District Court in Catonsville? Call the clerk there (410-512-2500) to see if they'll tell you who the judge will be. There are several female District Court judges in Baltimore County. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!
who are you catwoman? nice username, lol...he does not want a female judge if she's the one from howard county. i understand she works in other counties, part time... she'll make you watch movies (just for speeding) of car accidents like you have to watch in drunk driving school. and i think she gives alot of points, no mercy not even on cute, young guys.
9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
Pay courts costs and in exchange my points get removed? Hello!
Thanks for all the advice given in this thread....but I wasn't offered a deal by Officer George. Maybe he didn't like me? Who cares, lesson learned.
Pay courts costs and in exchange my points get removed? Hello!
Thanks for all the advice given in this thread....but I wasn't offered a deal by Officer George. Maybe he didn't like me? Who cares, lesson learned.
pbj?
9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
"The court finds the defendant guilty of speeding 30 miles over the speed limit and sentences him to eat 30 PBJ sammiches under the supervision of a court appointed officer every day for the next 30 days. Court is adjourned!!"
I think everybody, everywhere should plead not guilty for all traffic offenses till the dumb ass government lightens up on the fines and points, if everybody plead not guilty they would have to lighten up or the courts would surely be clogged solid.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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If the judge is in a shirt and tie then it might be best that you dress that way too. I don't believe I did I'm not the shirt and tie kind of a guy. Besides this was a small town court out in the country but whatever edge you you can get, USE IT!
Quick story a week ago I was at Sunfest Festival, FL and went back stage with George Clinton and Michael Franti and Spearhead and while driving recalled the shows in my head. Well I came back to reality with the flashing lights and me being clocked from a stop light at 61-45. I turned on ALL the inside lights (it was nightime), I gave the officer what he wanted I even read clearly my insurance info. I was asked if I had any weapons, drugs and if I had been drinking, I said NO of course and most importantly I made serious eye contact.
For some reason unknown to me he let me go from a $245.00 ticket. I couldn't believe it, I had to give him a second look and a thank you. I don't know if this will help but it pays to be g under p....Graceful Under Pressure.
Peace
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I thought you already graduated. And if you get all cleaned up for court, please take a pic for davanita.
and shave off your dirty moustache, lol...
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
- woman in labour
- life-threatening medical emergency
- to prevent imminent harm to someone, somewhere
Pleading guilty is the obvious answer.
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
It's funny looking at my notice:
State of Maryland VS. Me
Sounds like I did something extreme like murder some people.
are you calling the cashier at the court house? you better find out what we discussed. I am not bailing you out of jail. I need my money for beer and hot dogs at pearl jam shows.
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
So he won't be hearing my case? And you say they might tell me who will? I'll give them a call tomorrow before 5PM and see.
Generally speaking on your first visit to traffic court you'll meet the prosecutor who will likely offer you a deal... reduced fine and a charge for less points. TAKE THE DEAL... You don't want to go back and risk getting hammered by the judge...
One ticket I got up in the sticks between Albany and Pittsfield MA I brought my then 2 y/o son for a sympathy factor... I was working two jobs, etc...
It was like a kangaroo court there... The cops were there prosecuting their own tickets... I watch the judge hammer each person who after being offered a deal rejected it and wanted a trial... I changed my plea and paid up then as the others were paying double fines + court costs...
So pay attention to what's happening before you get to your turn...
Best one was I got popped for 85 in a 65 and I was likely doing 100, I questioned the cop, when he caught up with me, why he wrote me a ticket when all my buddies got warnings, etc... After all i was polite, coopperative, and such (and wasn't drunk...) and he said he just wrote them up and let the judge sort them out... So of course I plead not guilty and show up on the appointed day and the prosecutor calls me (an older gentlement in his 60's) and he showed me the ticket... the cop had made a bunch of notes on it, likely the whole how long it took to catch up to me and what I asked him about warnings and such. The prosecutor asked me if I knew what the notes said and I told him I had a pretty good idea... He asked me "then what the hell are you doing here, pleading not guilty?" and I responded "I'm a nice guy, I pay my taxes and I was hoping for a break?"... He and the security sheriff laughed out loud and he told me to go home... (So it does work...)
1998: MSG I, Hartford
2000: Jones Beach I
2003: Albany, MSG II, Mansfield II & III, Homdel
2004: Boston (VFC) I & II
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I and E. Rutherford I
2008: MSG I & II, Hartford, Mansfield II (saw BostonLou in the FRONT ROW!!) EV-NYC II
2010: Hartford
2013 Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Fenway I
2018 Wrigley II, Fenway II
who are you catwoman? nice username, lol...he does not want a female judge if she's the one from howard county. i understand she works in other counties, part time... she'll make you watch movies (just for speeding) of car accidents like you have to watch in drunk driving school. and i think she gives alot of points, no mercy not even on cute, young guys.
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
I'm Selina Kyle.
and I'm Valerie Bertinelli
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
Pay courts costs and in exchange my points get removed? Hello!
Thanks for all the advice given in this thread....but I wasn't offered a deal by Officer George. Maybe he didn't like me? Who cares, lesson learned.
pbj?
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
Everytime I read it I think peanut butter/jelly!!!
Anyways Danny it sounds like you're happy enough with the outcome so I'm happy for you.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
lol, I agree about the peanut butter and jelly
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
"The court finds the defendant guilty of speeding 30 miles over the speed limit and sentences him to eat 30 PBJ sammiches under the supervision of a court appointed officer every day for the next 30 days. Court is adjourned!!"
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon