I'm hitting 'The Wall'

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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I'm in South London. New Cross to be precise. it's pretty much a dump. The only thing stopping it being a complete ghetto is the university, otherwise it would be the same as peckham which is just down the road. I know I'll probably settle in and get used to it but at the same time I ask myself "do I want to get used to this?" When I was at home I used to want to be anywhere else, where I live bores me to tears, the people are boring and have no personality but here the place itself is the same as that. I need to get out into central london more. today was great, not just because my friends were here, we went to the Tate and I appreciated this city a bit more but then I end up back in my little room in this hall and just look forward to christmas when I get to go back to my family and friends.

    I can't decide if I need to grow up or if I have grown up and that's what's bothering me... :(

    I think little tiny cramped university rooms suck wherever you are! :D Just get out to the fuckin Tate as much as you can dude... I love galleries. If you ever need a mate to meet up with, just let me know because I'm as lonely as fuck right n... I mean, erm, I'm good fun to hang out with! ;):D
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I think little tiny cramped university rooms suck wherever you are! :D Just get out to the fuckin Tate as much as you can dude... I love galleries. If you ever need a mate to meet up with, just let me know because I'm as lonely as fuck right n... I mean, erm, I'm good fun to hang out with! ;):D
    :D I'll bear it in mind mate. I do enjoy the Tate but I've been there twice in a month... I think I need to find some other galleries in London. Any recommendations?

    Having said that, I discovered my favourite painting ever today which was good.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    :D I'll bear it in mind mate. I do enjoy the Tate but I've been there twice in a month... I think I need to find some other galleries in London. Any recommendations?

    Having said that, I discovered my favourite painting ever today which was good.

    Cool. Would I know it?

    Tate, Tate Modern, National Gallery, National Portrait Gallery... those are the ones I've been to but I bet there are stacks of smaller ones.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Cool. Would I know it?

    Tate, Tate Modern, National Gallery, National Portrait Gallery... those are the ones I've been to but I bet there are stacks of smaller ones.
    You may do. It's the first time I've seen it, or at least noticed it. I can't imagine I would have walked by it.

    http://www.gerhard-richter.com/art/detail.php?paintID=6860

    The picture there does it no justice since it is rather large and the textural application of the paint is as important as the shapes and colours. I just loved it. I stood there looking at it for about 10 minutes while my friends tried to hurry me on just trying to decide what I thought of it. There's a kind of transient nature to his abstract paintings that demands repeated viewings and repeats none. The sort of ghostly images underneath seem to change in front of your eyes. Apparently Richter actually painted an image and then used a squeegee to cause the sharp distortions in this painting. I know bugger all about art really but something about this spoke to me.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    i hit the wall.......and it didn't hit back!
    d'oh!!!!!!

    http://www.myspace.com/brain_of_c
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    You may do. It's the first time I've seen it, or at least noticed it. I can't imagine I would have walked by it.

    http://www.gerhard-richter.com/art/detail.php?paintID=6860

    The picture there does it no justice since it is rather large and the textural application of the paint is as important as the shapes and colours. I just loved it. I stood there looking at it for about 10 minutes while my friends tried to hurry me on just trying to decide what I thought of it. There's a kind of transient nature to his abstract paintings that demands repeated viewings and repeats none. The sort of ghostly images underneath seem to change in front of your eyes. Apparently Richter actually painted an image and then used a squeegee to cause the sharp distortions in this painting. I know bugger all about art really but something about this spoke to me.

    It's an amazing painting; not seen that particular one but the style is very much like abstract expressionism - complex mark making, texture, colour etc. rather than trying to represent the world pictorially. It's full of symbolism. Probably my favourite kind of art.

    Google Mark Rothko, Jackson Pollock, Paul Klee and Howard Hodgkin if you haven't already.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    It's an amazing painting; not seen that particular one but the style is very much like abstract expressionism - complex mark making, texture, colour etc. rather than trying to represent the world pictorially. It's full of symbolism. Probably my favourite kind of art.

    Google Mark Rothko, Jackson Pollock, Paul Klee and Howard Hodgkin if you haven't already.
    Yeah, Richter has apparently taken a lot of different directions with his painting, from still life to landscapes to nudes etc but he found his main style with abstracts.

    I am aware of each of those artists. I'm not big on Rothko though I like some of his works (which is odd since they all look the same :D) and I'm a big fan of Pollock.

    The Tate has two of my favourite Pollock paintings:
    http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/T/T03/T03979_9.jpg
    http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/T/T03/T03327_9.jpg
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Yeah, Richter has apparently taken a lot of different directions with his painting, from still life to landscapes to nudes etc but he found his main style with abstracts.

    I am aware of each of those artists. I'm not big on Rothko though I like some of his works (which is odd since they all look the same :D) and I'm a big fan of Pollock.

    The Tate has two of my favourite Pollock paintings:
    http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/T/T03/T03979_9.jpg
    http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/T/T03/T03327_9.jpg

    And you said you knew fuck all about art :rolleyes: I call bullshit!

    Yeah I get your criticism of Rothko - I guess I like what he was trying to do; it was conceptual, about the idea rather than the product. He was expressing pure emotion and thoughts through stripping away all the unnecessary crap of painting to its purest form, colour and shape. His style has become so common-place it's even found its way into IKEA mass-production, but in its day it was pretty groundbreaking.

    Pollock is fantastic; I love the way that his paintings appear to be such a mess, but look harder and they're actually very carefully composed and balanced.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    i hit the wall and the...wall won

    i hit the wall and the...wall won
    d'oh!!!!!!

    http://www.myspace.com/brain_of_c
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    brain of c wrote:
    i hit the wall and the...wall won

    i hit the wall and the...wall won

    :D
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    And you said you knew fuck all about art :rolleyes: I call bullshit!

    Yeah I get your criticism of Rothko - I guess I like what he was trying to do; it was conceptual, about the idea rather than the product. He was expressing pure emotion and thoughts through stripping away all the unnecessary crap of painting to its purest form, colour and shape. His style has become so common-place it's even found its way into IKEA mass-production, but in its day it was pretty groundbreaking.

    Pollock is fantastic; I love the way that his paintings appear to be such a mess, but look harder and they're actually very carefully composed and balanced.
    Well, I know a very small amount about a very small amount of art :) I bullshit well. It's interesting that you say that about IKEA and mass-production. My good friend who amuses me greatly, and is an artist was being her cynical arsey self about Rothko and the Rothko room in the Tate today. She decided eventually that it "isn't that bad... I suppose. They'd be quite nice hung up in a coffee shop. That's what it is, good coffee shop art", which I found hilarious :D How amazingly dismissive of a reknowned artist.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Well, I know a very small amount about a very small amount of art :) I bullshit well. It's interesting that you say that about IKEA and mass-production. My good friend who amuses me greatly, and is an artist was being her cynical arsey self about Rothko and the Rothko room in the Tate today. She decided eventually that it "isn't that bad... I suppose. They'd be quite nice hung up in a coffee shop. That's what it is, good coffee shop art", which I found hilarious :D How amazingly dismissive of a reknowned artist.

    There would be NO 'coffee shop art' if it wasn't for Rothko... whether you think that's a good or a bad thing doesn't matter, he was a pioneer. There was nothing like it before him.

    And do you mean the big deep red rothko room? It's far more dark and brooding than any coffee shop I've ever seen. Even if it is the same colour as Costa :D
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    There would be NO 'coffee shop art' if it wasn't for Rothko... whether you think that's a good or a bad thing doesn't matter, he was a pioneer. There was nothing like it before him.

    And do you mean the big deep red rothko room? It's far more dark and brooding than any coffee shop I've ever seen. Even if it is the same colour as Costa :D
    I personally don't mind Rothko, I'm just never really moved by his paintings. I respect him as a pioneer though, and some of his theories on art were very interesting, I'd just prefer it if he applied them to paintings that interested me more :D I do mean that room yes :) It IS a similar colour to Costa, the only remotely classy chain of coffee shop I can think of :p
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I personally don't mind Rothko, I'm just never really moved by his paintings. I respect him as a pioneer though, and some of his theories on art were very interesting, I'd just prefer it if he applied them to paintings that interested me more :D I do mean that room yes :) It IS a similar colour to Costa, the only remotely classy chain of coffee shop I can think of :p

    Indeed. It's 2:46, I'm off to bed. Have a good one.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Indeed. It's 2:46, I'm off to bed. Have a good one.
    I chose the exact same moment to leave :)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I chose the exact same moment to leave :)

    Weird. How's tricks today?
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Weird. How's tricks today?
    Agreeable. Should be going out with some friends from my course tonight. Not sure where yet but the londoners should know somewhere good to go. As long as it's not Greenwich, I'm happy :D Last time I went there I nearly got arrested and the drinks were obscenely expensive. What about you? The Wall still standing strong?
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Agreeable. Should be going out with some friends from my course tonight. Not sure where yet but the londoners should know somewhere good to go. As long as it's not Greenwich, I'm happy :D Last time I went there I nearly got arrested and the drinks were obscenely expensive. What about you? The Wall still standing strong?

    The Wall's still there my friend, but it's got a mural painted on it today, so it's not so bad looking at it - maybe I just needed some sleep.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    catefrances wrote:
    i realised what a fool i had been trying to grab something i was incapable of having.

    I think I need help with that
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    meme wrote:
    I think I need help with that

    I've been there.. too many times
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison

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