I'm fighting some really fucking bad thoughts right now.

harmless_little_f***

It's 4.30am, I haven't slept, and I can't see the way forward. I'm sorry. I know I've been a downer on here lately but I have to let it out. Thanks.

small town beck

Sorry to hear that :( *hug*

Jeanie

breathe mark.

go make yourself some warm milk and put a little PJ tune on and see if you can't fall asleep. you're not going to be thinking very positively if you're overtired.

Byrnzie

Listen to the new R.E.M album. It's the nuts!

the wolf

sorry harmless, the job thing still?

you sound like your having a shitstorm of a life right now too.

all we can do is ride it out bro.

and btw, dont apologize about being a downer, not here, not to us.

hope things get better for you.

sending good vibes.

harmless_little_f***

the wolf wrote:

sorry harmless, the job thing still?

you sound like your having a shitstorm of a life right now too.

all we can do is ride it out bro.

and btw, dont apologize about being a downer, not here, not to us.

hope things get better for you.

sending good vibes.

The job thing still. I'm going to quit but I'm not sure I can even stand another month in that place. I'd rather they fired me to be honest, then I can be gone this weekend.

Byrnzie

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

The job thing still. I'm going to quit but I'm not sure I can even stand another month in that place. I'd rather they fired me to be honest, then I can be gone this weekend.

Oscar Wilde was right - "Work is the curse of the drinking classes"

the wolf

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

The job thing still. I'm going to quit but I'm not sure I can even stand another month in that place. I'd rather they fired me to be honest, then I can be gone this weekend.

be careful , thats what i did back in oct. of 07, i wanted to quit, but i just got so pissed, that they "asked" me to leave. and i have not been able to find anything since. and im BROKE! the job market sucks right now. and i wish every day that i had stayed where i was at.

it will all work it .

facepollution

Would your doctor not sign you off with stress?

sponger

meditation

Bibbs

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=276833

Jeanie

facepollution wrote:

Would your doctor not sign you off with stress?

Actually, that's really good advice.

When I resigned from my last job that's what I did.

harmless_little_f***

Jeanie wrote:

Actually, that's really good advice.

When I resigned from my last job that's what I did.

And it's what I might do. I can't think of another option. I can't go back to work. I now distrust them to my very core. They're supposed to be a charity but they're nothing but corporate fatcats, the lot of them.

mole1985

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

It's 4.30am, I haven't slept, and I can't see the way forward. I'm sorry. I know I've been a downer on here lately but I have to let it out. Thanks.

Y'know i was up till about the same time last night worrying about my job too. TODAY if you do nothing else you need to get your CV up to date and printed off. Try looking on websites like monster.com and post your CV and see what's available in your area.

Tomorrow (if it's open) get to the job center and any agencies. If you have any holidays you can take with work, book them and spend that week looking for employment. Write out your job searching plan for the week, stick to it and cross each task off as you do it. That's what i'm gonna do too. Try and stay with your job as long as you can while your looking but if you have too, leave. Keep your dignity and self respect in whatever you do.

facepollution

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

And it's what I might do. I can't think of another option. I can't go back to work. I now distrust them to my very core. They're supposed to be a charity but they're nothing but corporate fatcats, the lot of them.

Well then that's what you should definitely do. It'll get you out of there instantly, and it will give you a chance to find something else while still getting paid for your last month.

the wolf

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

And it's what I might do. I can't think of another option. I can't go back to work. I now distrust them to my very core. They're supposed to be a charity but they're nothing but corporate fatcats, the lot of them.

thats fucked up dude. and very close to why i "left" my job. not a charity, but a pharmacutical company, that i thought was really hurting people that needed certain drugs, but thought only about the almighty dollar.

kinda scary.

harmless_little_f***

the wolf wrote:

thats fucked up dude. and very close to why i "left" my job. not a charity, but a pharmacutical company, that i thought was really hurting people that needed certain drugs, but thought only about the almighty dollar.

kinda scary.

For my job, the almighty dollar = funding. And that only exists to meet targets and goals. And because extra support for disabled employees isn't one of our targets (disabled people aren't our demographic, we help 'homeless people') there's no money available for me. *shrug*

the wolf

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

For my job, the almighty dollar = funding. And that only exists to meet targets and goals. And because extra support for disabled employees isn't one of our targets (disabled people aren't our demographic, we help 'homeless people') there's no money available for me. *shrug*

that sucks. im sorry you are having to deal with this.

harmless_little_f***

the wolf wrote:

that sucks. im sorry you are having to deal with this.

I just wish they'd fire me. They finished the meeting without firing me, and I wish they'd had the fucking backbone to do so. I know why they didn't though; they didn't because if they had done, I'd have had grounds to go back and get them punished for it.

Jeanie

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

And it's what I might do. I can't think of another option. I can't go back to work. I now distrust them to my very core. They're supposed to be a charity but they're nothing but corporate fatcats, the lot of them.

Well, I don't know what you should do hlf, but I can say that I was in such a mess going to work every day that last few months that I would physically tremble and shake and cry each morning on the way in and again each night when I left and being there during the day was truly torturous. When I finally decided the time had come to leave, I packed up all my stuff very quietly and left the building and promised myself I would never return. My doctor, when I explained just how revolting the past few months had been, wrote me out a certificate for stress leave on the spot and I contacted my boss the next day and informed them I was resigning and that I had a doctor's certificate and wouldn't be back. Looking back on it now, I cannot say that I have even the smallest pang of regret for doing it that way. I'm not normally the kind of person that wouldn't work out my notice but there was no way I could go back into that building. I really think you should consider it a valid option to get yourself out. It's not worth the angst trying to keep going when it's affecting you so badly.

mole1985

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I just wish they'd fire me. They finished the meeting without firing me, and I wish they'd had the fucking backbone to do so. I know why they didn't though; they didn't because if they had done, I'd have had grounds to go back and get them punished for it.

The problem is tho you have to explain to your previous employees why you where fired and that can be tricky.

harmless_little_f***

Jeanie wrote:

Well, I don't know what you should do hlf, but I can say that I was in such a mess going to work every day that last few months that I would physically tremble and shake and cry each morning on the way in and again each night when I left and being there during the day was truly torturous. When I finally decided the time had come to leave, I packed up all my stuff very quietly and left the building and promised myself I would never return. My doctor, when I explained just how revolting the past few months had been, wrote me out a certificate for stress leave on the spot and I contacted my boss the next day and informed them I was resigning and that I had a doctor's certificate and wouldn't be back. Looking back on it now, I cannot say that I have even the smallest pang of regret for doing it that way. I'm not normally the kind of person that wouldn't work out my notice but there was no way I could go back into that building. I really think you should consider it a valid option to get yourself out. It's not worth the angst trying to keep going when it's affecting you so badly.

Jeanie, thankyou.

This is exactly my experience for weeks, months now. I've cried in front of my boss at three supervision meetings now and she still just looks at me with dollar signs in her eyes. I just cannot do it anymore. I'll look into this option, thankyou again.

facepollution

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I just wish they'd fire me. They finished the meeting without firing me, and I wish they'd had the fucking backbone to do so. I know why they didn't though; they didn't because if they had done, I'd have had grounds to go back and get them punished for it.

You know if they are pushing you into a corner whereby it is so awful, you may have grounds to sue them anyway. I forget what the technical term for it is.......

harmless_little_f***

facepollution wrote:

You know if they are pushing you into a corner whereby it is so awful, you may have grounds to sue them anyway. I forget what the technical term for it is.......

Thanks. Tbh I don't feel any need to sue them. I just need to see the back of them.

the wolf

my question i guess, is this. here in the fucked up US of A, this certificate you speak of , would do fuck all to help out in a problem like this.

i mean yeah, i would have a note from my dr. saying i needed time off, but i wouldnt get paid, and they could still let me go if they wanted to.

so how does that help anything? wouldnt it be better or the same thing to just quit?

maybe things are different there for you guys. but im not following this.

facepollution

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Thanks. Tbh I don't feel any need to sue them. I just need to see the back of them.

I totally understand that mate. Hope it all works out ok for you.

Jeanie

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Jeanie, thankyou.

This is exactly my experience for weeks, months now. I've cried in front of my boss at three supervision meetings now and she still just looks at me with dollar signs in her eyes. I just cannot do it anymore. I'll look into this option, thankyou again.

You're welcome my friend.

I'm really sorry that it's happening to you, it's such an awful situation to be in but just not worth your health and happiness.
I promise, I really NEVER have regretted it. And I worked there for 13 years! :eek:
I cannot tell you what a weight was lifted off my shoulders when I finally made the decision. I didn't care what happened to me, I just knew I would never step foot in that building again. I was more frightened of what would become of me if I stayed than if I left. I think you'll find it that way too. Fingers crossed and good luck for a speedy, and happy resolution. You can do it.

facepollution

the wolf wrote:

my question i guess, is this. here in the fucked up US of A, this certificate you speak of , would do fuck all to help out in a problem like this.

i mean yeah, i would have a note from my dr. saying i needed time off, but i wouldnt get paid, and they could still let me go if they wanted to.

so how does that help anything? wouldnt it be better or the same thing to just quit?

maybe things are different there for you guys. but im not following this.

Most people get paid if they are off sick over here in the UK, and stress counts as illness.

harmless_little_f***

the wolf wrote:

my question i guess, is this. here in the fucked up US of A, this certificate you speak of , would do fuck all to help out in a problem like this.

i mean yeah, i would have a note from my dr. saying i needed time off, but i wouldnt get paid, and they could still let me go if they wanted to.

so how does that help anything? wouldnt it be better or the same thing to just quit?

maybe things are different there for you guys. but im not following this.

To be honest I don't know about any of this stuff, no matter what side of the pond. I know my employers. They'll just fire my arse if I send em a note, whether they're 'allowed' to or not.

But I also don't know how 'quitting' works. If you quit, are you not still obligated to stay another month? I just need any way I can find to not do that. Maybe a Chris McCandless is in order.

mole1985

This website is very useful for all jobs/interviews/questions/CVs ect.

http://jobsearch.about.com/od/interviewquestionsanswers/a/interviewquest.htm

the wolf

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

To be honest I don't know about any of this stuff, no matter what side of the pond. I know my employers. They'll just fire my arse if I send em a note, whether they're 'allowed' to or not.

But I also don't know how 'quitting' works. If you quit, are you not still obligated to stay another month? I just need any way I can find to not do that. Maybe a Chris McCandless is in order.

wait a min. im being taken to school here on how different things are here and there.

what do you mean that even if you quit, you would be obligated to stay another month?