Wild animals....

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  • KosmicJelli
    KosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    On the phone one morning , enjoying my coffee.... on my porch... I sat there talking to my sister whom lives in Chicago... A female bear and 3 cubs lazily passed within feet of me... enjoying the beauty I quietly state to my sister " there are bears right in front of me..." "OMG call 911!!!!" she screams... I laughed hysterically...

    Dont fool with Mother Nature...
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    The mentality of people amazes me. A kid can get hit by a car and cars are okay, but a kid gets eaten by wild life in a freak accident and the mentality is kill them all.

    Bring back the Wolf, the bicen and the mountain lion!
    The wolf especially gets a black-eye when it comes to human/animal relations...look at our mythology and literature. I have no problems reintroducing predators and other mega-fauna back to the U.S. or former areas of their range. Reading a book that is going to speak of re-introducing species that went extinct in North America 10,000 years ago.......elephants, camels and such.
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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    The mentality of people amazes me. A kid can get hit by a car and cars are okay, but a kid gets eaten by wild life in a freak accident and the mentality is kill them all.

    Bring back the Wolf, the bicen and the mountain lion!

    Agreed, but I like to take the human logic a bit further. We totally freak out if a wild animal kills a human. The standard response is to kill all pedators in the general vicinity to make sure they get the "culprit". I just wished we responded the same way every time a human hurt or killed somebody, but I imagine some people would object to a machine gun toting clean-up crew wiping out every human in a city block just to make sure they got the bad guy.
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  • I have only seen a mountain lion (the back end of it running away) once in my life, thats pretty cool.
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  • KosmicJelli
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    tybird wrote:
    The wolf especially gets a black-eye when it comes to human/animal relations...look at our mythology and literature. I have no problems reintroducing predators and other mega-fauna back to the U.S. or former areas of their range. Reading a book that is going to speak of re-introducing species that went extinct in North America 10,000 years ago.......elephants, camels and such.


    They really do I agree... I like the fact that there has been much activism concerning their protection and reintroduction back into the "wild"... but they can deplete natural "herds" quickly if they are left unchecked by local biologist since they are at the top of the food chain....
  • LikeAnOcean
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    They really do I agree... I like the fact that there has been much activism concerning their protection and reintroduction back into the "wild"... but they can deplete natural "herds" quickly if they are left unchecked by local biologist since they are at the top of the food chain....
    If they deplete natural herds, there will be no food, and then they will deplete and natural herds would bounce back.. its all a natural balance that went on for millions of years. I don't think we need to check on them.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    tybird wrote:
    Interesting....that they are making a comeback in that area. It's also interesting that it came upon the porch and was not flushed by you and the camera....that's one of the reasons that I suspected escaped pet so quickly. Do you feed any pets outdoors?? Dangerous, yes, but will generally leave humans alone. I know folks who might trade in their right nut for such a sighting. Great job catching some snapshots.

    Cougar=Puma=Catamount=Mountain Lion...if I remember right, it has even more common names.
    That's because she didn't take the pictures.
    I have these exact pictures in an email sent to me from April of last year, only the email said it was taken by someone in Martin, New Brunswick....
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Rygar wrote:
    That's because she didn't take the pictures.
    I have these exact pictures in an email sent to me from April of last year, only the email said it was taken by someone in Martin, New Brunswick....
    Why would she make this up? I don't get it.

    You still saved those pictures from last year to match them up? I doubt it.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Why would she make this up? I don't get it. You still saved those pictures from last year? I doubt it.
    PM me your email address then, or you can wait until I figure out my photobucket bs...
    There's 4 pics altogether.
  • KosmicJelli
    KosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    If they deplete natural herds, there will be no food, and then they will deplete and natural herds would bounce back.. its all a natural balance that went on for millions of years. I don't think we need to check on them.

    Possible.. but what we are talking here is man-made/managed ecology... not natural ecology


    which would essentially be the the ideal.. yes?
  • KosmicJelli
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    Rygar wrote:
    PM me your email address then, or you can wait until I figure out my photobucket bs...
    There's 4 pics altogether.
    there are 4 pics.. only posted 2
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    there are 4 pics.. only posted 2
    Did someone send them to you?
  • KosmicJelli
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    I sent them originally through email... was easier to pull up email than to search through multitude of unorganized pics... they were taken on my friends porch near shell lake, wi... thanks for making me feel fraudualent.. good ol' pit!
  • holy shit that is awesome!
  • tybird wrote:
    The wolf especially gets a black-eye when it comes to human/animal relations...look at our mythology and literature. I have no problems reintroducing predators and other mega-fauna back to the U.S. or former areas of their range. Reading a book that is going to speak of re-introducing species that went extinct in North America 10,000 years ago.......elephants, camels and such.

    reintroduction isn't always a good thing for the species or the ecosystem though.
  • eyedclaar
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    They really do I agree... I like the fact that there has been much activism concerning their protection and reintroduction back into the "wild"... but they can deplete natural "herds" quickly if they are left unchecked by local biologist since they are at the top of the food chain....

    You have to be careful what you believe. Since Wolves were re-introduced into Idaho they have made a very successful comeback. Problem is, now hunters are claiming they are decimating elk herds and because hunting is big business in Idaho, those hunters have the legislator's ears. Now, the truth is, and the Dept. of Fish and Game can attest to the fact that hunters are just as succesful now as they have alway been based on percentage of elk/deer tags that are used. However, we have a new breed of "hunter" who screams up and own dirt roads and trails on ATVs that you can hear from 10 miles away and because these dip-shits can't find an elk the wolves must be killing them all. Bullshit! I know good, old-school hunters and they say nothing has changed except the elk are acting a little more like elk now that they have a natural predator in their midst once again.
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  • Rygar
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    I sent them originally through email... was easier to pull up email than to search through multitude of unorganized pics... they were taken on my friends porch near shell lake, wi... thanks for making me feel fraudualent.. good ol' pit!
    I just assumed your friend sent them to you.
  • It just hit me how friggen deep in the boonies I live... this is kinda scary for a girl from the Chicago burbs...


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    and i was worried about racoons in the garbage....

    :eek: Wow!
  • I'm pretty sure cougars used to be all over Wisconsin. They just got killed off over the years.
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