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KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
edited February 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
It just hit me how friggen deep in the boonies I live... this is kinda scary for a girl from the Chicago burbs...


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and i was worried about racoons in the garbage....
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  • pjtaperpjtaper Posts: 3,020
    umm, yeah, I'd be scared too, then I would grab my gun and what I could carry out to my car, and drive far far away!
    After typing that, I looked and saw you live in Hayward, WI?!?!?!?!?
    What the HELL? Where is that, and why is there a lion at your door? I grew up just north of Milwaukee, never seen anything like that!
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    whoa!!! those fuckers are dangerous......stay far away.....:eek:
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    KosmicJelli wrote:
    It just hit me how friggen deep in the boonies I live... this is kinda scary for a girl from the Chicago burbs...


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    and i was worried about racoons in the garbage....
    Thats in Wisconsin????
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    pjtaper wrote:
    umm, yeah, I'd be scared too, then I would grab my gun and what I could carry out to my car, and drive far far away!
    After typing that, I looked and saw you live in Hayward, WI?!?!?!?!?
    What the HELL? Where is that, and why is there a lion at your door? I grew up just north of Milwaukee, never seen anything like that!


    about an hour south of lake superior...


    but living in chicago/milwaukee area... crackheads more dangerous
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Interesting.....don't know what the status of that species is in Wisconsin. If you were further east or south, I would suspect that it was an escaped pet. You should contact the state fish & wildlife division. If it is an escaped pet, it should be captured and placed in a big cat rehab site. BTW as someone earlier posted, they are a dangerous animal.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Thats in Wisconsin????

    yes.. in wisconsin... just a scare tactic to keep tourist away...j/k
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    pjtaper wrote:
    umm, yeah, I'd be scared too, then I would grab my gun and what I could carry out to my car, and drive far far away!
    After typing that, I looked and saw you live in Hayward, WI?!?!?!?!?
    What the HELL? Where is that, and why is there a lion at your door? I grew up just north of Milwaukee, never seen anything like that!
    No way! I would think that is cool as hell! Just keep a baseball bat handy and life would go on..
  • pjtaperpjtaper Posts: 3,020
    Everyone knows they are dangerous... I also would not feel safe with that on the other side of my regular sliding glass door, I hope you have some thick zoo glass on your house.
    wtf, I used to camp/hike/fish up by lake superior, I didn't know there were lions there... that is a big cat!!!
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    KosmicJelli wrote:
    yes.. in wisconsin... just a scare tactic to keep tourist away...j/k
    Wild life has been making a comeback, which is a good thing. Coyotes have been making a comeback around Chicago. When I was a kid they were unheard of around here.
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    actually a cougar... we have them... what scary reported sitings have been all over...

    it used to be that way for black bears a few years back a few sitings... but now you see them all the time.... I hope DNR keeps population under control...
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Wild life has been making a comeback, which is a good thing. Coyotes have been making a comeback around Chicago. When I was a kid they were unheard of around here.


    I know... deer too... One time driving home back from Wisconsin didnt see one deer run across the road during their "rutting" season... until i got 1 mile from my old house...
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    KosmicJelli wrote:
    actually a cougar... we have them... what scary reported sitings have been all over...

    it used to be that way for black bears a few years back a few sitings... but now you see them all the time.... I hope DNR keeps population under control...
    Interesting....that they are making a comeback in that area. It's also interesting that it came upon the porch and was not flushed by you and the camera....that's one of the reasons that I suspected escaped pet so quickly. Do you feed any pets outdoors?? Dangerous, yes, but will generally leave humans alone. I know folks who might trade in their right nut for such a sighting. Great job catching some snapshots.

    Cougar=Puma=Catamount=Mountain Lion...if I remember right, it has even more common names.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    KosmicJelli wrote:
    I know... deer too... One time driving home back from Wisconsin didnt see one deer during their "rutting" season... until i got 1 mile from my old house...
    Well, deer around where I grew up were always a problem because of lack of predators. I lived a few minutes from the loop and almost got mauled by a buck a few times walking to the bus stop. More predators are needed to keep the population under control. Mountains lions used to naturally hunt around here a hundred years ago, but man killed them off.

    I say embrace nature! If you get eaten, atleast it was for a good cause! :D
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Gawd, Americans are such pansies when it comes to wildlife. Of course, I spent last weekend deep in the woods in a snow cave, so animals don't frighten me. You could have that cat living in your spare bedroom and you would still have a greater chance of being injured, robbed, raped, or killed by some random human being.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Wild life has been making a comeback, which is a good thing. Coyotes have been making a comeback around Chicago. When I was a kid they were unheard of around here.
    Coyotes have been moving east and north for a couple of decades.....entered the Southeast back in the 1980's and have made it, on their own, all the way to the Smoky Mountains National Park in recent years. The Park Service even had to decide whether to remove them from the park or let them be......because they arrived on their own with direct human intervention, they are going to be allowed to stay.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Gawd, Americans are such pansies when it comes to wildlife. Of course, I spent last weekend deep in the woods in a snow cave, so animals don't frighten me. You could have that cat living in your spare bedroom and you would still have a greater chance of being injured, robbed, raped, or killed by some random human being.
    True. People are a bigger threat to other people than wild life. I bet if she opened that door that thing would have ran for its life!
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Gawd, Americans are such pansies when it comes to wildlife. Of course, I spent last weekend deep in the woods in a snow cave, so animals don't frighten me. You could have that cat living in your spare bedroom and you would still have a greater chance of being injured, robbed, raped, or killed by some random human being.


    oh so very true....
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Well, deer around where I grew up were always a problem because of lack of predators. I lived a few minutes from the loop and almost got mauled by a buck a few times walking to the bus stop. More predators are needed to keep the population under control. Mountains lions used to naturally hunt around here a hundred years ago, but man killed them off.

    I say embrace nature! If you get eaten, atleast it was for a good cause! :D
    The wolves probably did more of the work than the Mountain Lions....but there exists that uneasy balance between wolf & man.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Well, deer around where I grew up were always a problem because of lack of predators. I lived a few minutes from the loop and almost got mauled by a buck a few times walking to the bus stop. More predators are needed to keep the population under control. Mountains lions used to naturally hunt around here a hundred years ago, but man killed them off.

    I say embrace nature! If you get eaten, atleast it was for a good cause! :D

    I spend a lot of time in the woods/montains and I have always said that if I get killed by a wild animal, I absolutely insist that no harm comes to it. In fact, my dying wish would be to give the animal a medal of honor.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    tybird wrote:
    The wolves probably did more of the work than the Mountain Lions....but there exists that uneasy balance between wolf & man.
    The mentality of people amazes me. A kid can get hit by a car and cars are okay, but a kid gets eaten by wild life in a freak accident and the mentality is kill them all.

    Bring back the Wolf, the bicen and the mountain lion!
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    On the phone one morning , enjoying my coffee.... on my porch... I sat there talking to my sister whom lives in Chicago... A female bear and 3 cubs lazily passed within feet of me... enjoying the beauty I quietly state to my sister " there are bears right in front of me..." "OMG call 911!!!!" she screams... I laughed hysterically...

    Dont fool with Mother Nature...
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    The mentality of people amazes me. A kid can get hit by a car and cars are okay, but a kid gets eaten by wild life in a freak accident and the mentality is kill them all.

    Bring back the Wolf, the bicen and the mountain lion!
    The wolf especially gets a black-eye when it comes to human/animal relations...look at our mythology and literature. I have no problems reintroducing predators and other mega-fauna back to the U.S. or former areas of their range. Reading a book that is going to speak of re-introducing species that went extinct in North America 10,000 years ago.......elephants, camels and such.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    The mentality of people amazes me. A kid can get hit by a car and cars are okay, but a kid gets eaten by wild life in a freak accident and the mentality is kill them all.

    Bring back the Wolf, the bicen and the mountain lion!

    Agreed, but I like to take the human logic a bit further. We totally freak out if a wild animal kills a human. The standard response is to kill all pedators in the general vicinity to make sure they get the "culprit". I just wished we responded the same way every time a human hurt or killed somebody, but I imagine some people would object to a machine gun toting clean-up crew wiping out every human in a city block just to make sure they got the bad guy.
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  • Cree NationsCree Nations Posts: 2,247
    I have only seen a mountain lion (the back end of it running away) once in my life, thats pretty cool.
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  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    tybird wrote:
    The wolf especially gets a black-eye when it comes to human/animal relations...look at our mythology and literature. I have no problems reintroducing predators and other mega-fauna back to the U.S. or former areas of their range. Reading a book that is going to speak of re-introducing species that went extinct in North America 10,000 years ago.......elephants, camels and such.


    They really do I agree... I like the fact that there has been much activism concerning their protection and reintroduction back into the "wild"... but they can deplete natural "herds" quickly if they are left unchecked by local biologist since they are at the top of the food chain....
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    KosmicJelli wrote:
    They really do I agree... I like the fact that there has been much activism concerning their protection and reintroduction back into the "wild"... but they can deplete natural "herds" quickly if they are left unchecked by local biologist since they are at the top of the food chain....
    If they deplete natural herds, there will be no food, and then they will deplete and natural herds would bounce back.. its all a natural balance that went on for millions of years. I don't think we need to check on them.
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    tybird wrote:
    Interesting....that they are making a comeback in that area. It's also interesting that it came upon the porch and was not flushed by you and the camera....that's one of the reasons that I suspected escaped pet so quickly. Do you feed any pets outdoors?? Dangerous, yes, but will generally leave humans alone. I know folks who might trade in their right nut for such a sighting. Great job catching some snapshots.

    Cougar=Puma=Catamount=Mountain Lion...if I remember right, it has even more common names.
    That's because she didn't take the pictures.
    I have these exact pictures in an email sent to me from April of last year, only the email said it was taken by someone in Martin, New Brunswick....
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Rygar wrote:
    That's because she didn't take the pictures.
    I have these exact pictures in an email sent to me from April of last year, only the email said it was taken by someone in Martin, New Brunswick....
    Why would she make this up? I don't get it.

    You still saved those pictures from last year to match them up? I doubt it.
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Why would she make this up? I don't get it. You still saved those pictures from last year? I doubt it.
    PM me your email address then, or you can wait until I figure out my photobucket bs...
    There's 4 pics altogether.
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    If they deplete natural herds, there will be no food, and then they will deplete and natural herds would bounce back.. its all a natural balance that went on for millions of years. I don't think we need to check on them.

    Possible.. but what we are talking here is man-made/managed ecology... not natural ecology


    which would essentially be the the ideal.. yes?
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