Boston Red Sox

Cliffy6745

Love it!

Orioles second baseman Robert Andino, after his game-winning hit: End of season like this, [to] make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day

81

Poncier wrote:

Davidtrios wrote:

theo gone too?

He should have plenty of time to follow PJ on the 2012 tour.
Should be the first one canned....$142 million to Crawford and $82.5 million to Lackey.

Crawford should have caught that ball, they'd have probably lost in extra innings, but he played that thing like Timmy Lupus, except Lupus made the catch....and we're stuck with him for 6 more years? And he gets a $5.5million raise next season?? Worst free agent signing in baseball history by a mile, makes what Carl Pavano gave the Yanks look like tremendous return on investment.

Did you miss Adam Dunn's season....

Poncier

81 wrote:

Did you miss Adam Dunn's season....

Dunn was horrible, no doubt, but he signed for $56 mil over 4 years, Crawford signed for $142 mil over 7 years. 2.5 times the investment for very similar production, and the Red Sox are saddled with him 3 year longer than the White Sox have Dunn.

Wma31394

Lets not forget about zambrano 5 yrs. 91 mil. Has to rank up there with the worst signings.

Cliffy6745

Oops. Wrong thread. Sorry about that.

Yellow Ledbelly

Hey, at least I won't be up until 1 or 2 in the morning watching baseball next week

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... WaoZvWu6As

Greeny needs a punch in the throat because if it was his precious Jets he'd be crying like a fuckin child

81

Poncier wrote:

81 wrote:

Did you miss Adam Dunn's season....

Dunn was horrible, no doubt, but he signed for $56 mil over 4 years, Crawford signed for $142 mil over 7 years. 2.5 times the investment for very similar production, and the Red Sox are saddled with him 3 year longer than the White Sox have Dunn.

i'll give the dollars were worse for crawford, but he did bat 255 vs. 159. both had 11hrs, crawford had better rbi and runs numbers. and played in the field..

i'd take crawford season over dunns

Poncier

Wma31394 wrote:

Lets not forget about zambrano 5 yrs. 91 mil. Has to rank up there with the worst signings.

But he was resigned by his own team, slightly different animal...and from 2008-2011 Z is 43-26, and his ERA was below 4 every year until this year. Definitely overpaid, but not a contract in the league of a Lackey, Pavano, K. Brown or the king of them all Crawford.

Johnny Abruzzo

81 wrote:

Poncier wrote:

81 wrote:

Did you miss Adam Dunn's season....

Dunn was horrible, no doubt, but he signed for $56 mil over 4 years, Crawford signed for $142 mil over 7 years. 2.5 times the investment for very similar production, and the Red Sox are saddled with him 3 year longer than the White Sox have Dunn.

i'll give the dollars were worse for crawford, but he did bat 255 vs. 159. both had 11hrs, crawford had better rbi and runs numbers. and played in the field..

i'd take crawford season over dunns

Dunn had perhaps the worst season any batter ever had. It's not even a valid comparison.

Poncier

81 wrote:

Poncier wrote:

81 wrote:

Did you miss Adam Dunn's season....

Dunn was horrible, no doubt, but he signed for $56 mil over 4 years, Crawford signed for $142 mil over 7 years. 2.5 times the investment for very similar production, and the Red Sox are saddled with him 3 year longer than the White Sox have Dunn.

i'll give the dollars were worse for crawford, but he did bat 255 vs. 159. both had 11hrs, crawford had better rbi and runs numbers. and played in the field..

i'd take crawford season over dunns

Had Crawford been the DH last night and Timmy Lupus or Adam Dunn been in left the game would have gone to extra innings.
I'd love for the 2 Sox to trade Crawford for Dunn straight up.

Cliffy6745

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Dunn had perhaps the worst season any batter ever had. It's not even a valid comparison.

You see they didn't play him the last couple days so he wouldn't qualify for the batting title and have the lowest average in the history of the game for players that did?

Johnny Abruzzo

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Dunn had perhaps the worst season any batter ever had. It's not even a valid comparison.

You see they didn't play him the last couple days so he wouldn't qualify for the batting title and have the lowest average in the history of the game for players that did?

That's crap.

Cliffy6745

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Dunn had perhaps the worst season any batter ever had. It's not even a valid comparison.

You see they didn't play him the last couple days so he wouldn't qualify for the batting title and have the lowest average in the history of the game for players that did?

That's crap.

Agreed. Dunn and Reyes with bushleague moves, just polar opposites.

jimed14

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Dunn had perhaps the worst season any batter ever had. It's not even a valid comparison.

You see they didn't play him the last couple days so he wouldn't qualify for the batting title and have the lowest average in the history of the game for players that did?

The thing about Dunn that most people don't get (I'm guessing you do though) is it was always about his OBP. While he was hitting .230, .240 ... he'd walk so mch his OBP was near .400 for years.

But ... when you're hitting .160, you need to walk at Barry Bonds levels to make the OBP that high.

Hilarious that he sat out to avoid "worst batting avg ever" tag, I didn't know that.

BinauralJam

I'm not gona rub it in, because that just seems mean right now, i just hope you guys don't fire Terry or Theo, that would be a retarted kneejerk reaction.

g under p

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm not gona rub it in, because that just seems mean right now, i just hope you guys don't fire Terry or Theo, that would be a retarted kneejerk reaction.

It won't happen.....I believe they both would the first to be fired being undefeated in World Series games.

Peace

jimed14

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm not gona rub it in, because that just seems mean right now, i just hope you guys don't fire Terry or Theo, that would be a retarted kneejerk reaction.

This team isn't about kneejerk / sports radio influenced moves.

The won 91 games after going 2-10 to start the season.

Cliffy6745

jimed14 wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm not gona rub it in, because that just seems mean right now, i just hope you guys don't fire Terry or Theo, that would be a retarted kneejerk reaction.

This team isn't about kneejerk / sports radio influenced moves.

The won 91 games after going 2-10 to start the season.

Someone has to take some sort of fall. That big of a payroll and new additions and they haven't won a playoff game since 2008. That's not acceptable. Not sure if it will be the big guys but I can't imagine no one is going to get the ax.

Edit: And I don't think it should necessarily be Francona. I read recently that the word around the league is that Boston: the team and players are not terribly concerned with conditioning and that's why they have so many injuries. Who knows how true that is and I am not sure how much of a shakeup firing a trainer is but it's an interesting point.

xavier mcdaniel

jimed14 wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm not gona rub it in, because that just seems mean right now, i just hope you guys don't fire Terry or Theo, that would be a retarted kneejerk reaction.

This team isn't about kneejerk / sports radio influenced moves.

The won 91 games after going 2-10 to start the season.

That's what amazing to me. They had a stretch of 30 losses in 39 games if you combine the start and the September. Win two more games in April and we're not having this discussion. That is a further lesson about not screwing around in the early going, which often comes back to bite a team or in other cases creates too big of a hole to come out of.

polaris_x

i don't follow the bosox closely enuf but the lineup cards seem weird to me ... 3rd string catcher batting 5th ... lowrie hitting cleanup ... i would have had scutaro hit at the top and put ellsbury hitting second ...