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The Dark Knight didnt live up to the hype for me

pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
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I know I am gonna get bashed for this but I just thought it was pretty cool but not flawless like everybody else seems to think. Heath Ledger was amazing and the action scenes were great. I was very annoyed by Batmans phoney voice and the movie was a bit hard to follow at times. I also thought some of the dialogue was a bit cheesy. Overall I would give it a 7.5 or 8 at most.
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  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    I know I am gonna get bashed for this but I just thought it was pretty cool but not flawless like everybody else seems to think. Heath Ledger was amazing and the action scenes were great. I was very annoyed by Batmans phoney voice and the movie was a bit hard to follow at times. I also thought some of the dialogue was a bit cheesy. Overall I would give it a 7.5 or 8 at most.

    Batman's phony voice is silly, I agree. My husband was like, "why doesn't he just invest in some sort of voice changer?" lol...

    I loved it, though...even with the cheesy moments of dialogue. I think that is just part of the formula.
  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    i loved it too, and thought the voice was silly but just wrote it off as his disguise as most did...


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  • pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Batman's phony voice is silly, I agree. My husband was like, "why doesn't he just invest in some sort of voice changer?" lol...

    I loved it, though...even with the cheesy moments of dialogue. I think that is just part of the formula.

    See I think that is normally part of the formula for superhero movies such as Spiderman or Incredible Hulk, but this is darker and takes itself a bit more seriously.........it just felt like some of it was a bit too lame.
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  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    See I think that is normally part of the formula for superhero movies such as Spiderman or Incredible Hulk, but this is darker and takes itself a bit more seriously.........it just felt like some of it was a bit too lame.

    Yeah, I know what you're saying. I agree with that. It didn't bother me, though. (I don't know why, either. It normally would.)
  • pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Yeah, I know what you're saying. I agree with that. It didn't bother me, though. (I don't know why, either. It normally would.)

    It was still good though, I just wish I wouldnt have heard so many people talk of it like it was the best movie ever. Definitely one of the better superhero movies though, a genre that has really produced alot of crap recently (fantastic four, transformers, ghost rider)
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  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    a genre that has really produced alot of crap recently (fantastic four, transformers, ghost rider)
    Aw come on u didn't like ghost rider!!?? ;)









































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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Oh, it kicked ass. Stop trying to be different..
  • pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    Superhero movies always seem to be hit or miss. Either they are pretty good or really bad. Seems like they are split 50/50 because I have seen some pretty good ones too.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    Superhero movies always seem to be hit or miss. Either they are pretty good or really bad. Seems like they are split 50/50 because I have seen some pretty good ones too.
    You definitely understate the greatness of movies like V for Vendetta and Dark Knight. They're better than "pretty good."
  • SnowRiderSnowRider Posts: 55
    You know what I think was the most powerful message in that movie was when the Joker burnt that pile of cash. I can't remember his exact quote but it was something along the lines of "Its not about the money its about making a statment" or something like that. If someone knows what he said post it. But his character portrayed someone who was trying to send the world a message.
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    I don't get all the people going on about his voice. Actually it speaks for how good the movie is when they have to focus on that for something to slag off. If you saw Batman Begins, you really should have expected his voice to be like that. It really didn't bother me and in fact I like that for the character. For people who think it sounds silly, well, it's coming from someone dressed as a bat. If you can accept that, you should be able to accept the voice.

    As for not being able to follow the story, I wouldn't say that's the film's fault.

    What I know is that I've been a Batman and Joker fan for most of my life and had been awaiting this film and following it through production since BB came to a close and it somehow mey and exceeded my expectations.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    SnowRider wrote:
    You know what I think was the most powerful message in that movie was when the Joker burnt that pile of cash. I can't remember his exact quote but it was something along the lines of "Its not about the money its about making a statment" or something like that. If someone knows what he said post it. But his character portrayed someone who was trying to send the world a message.
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    I know I am gonna get bashed for this but I just thought it was pretty cool but not flawless like everybody else seems to think. Heath Ledger was amazing and the action scenes were great. I was very annoyed by Batmans phoney voice and the movie was a bit hard to follow at times. I also thought some of the dialogue was a bit cheesy. Overall I would give it a 7.5 or 8 at most.


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  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Oh, it kicked ass. Stop trying to be different..


    yea no kidding.

    and who said it was flawless?

    and at no point was this movie hard to follow....if it was for you then.......


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  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    First of all, there is no such thing as a Flawless movie.

    Secondly, batman's voice is very annoying, not sure who thought of using that..

    Thirdly, Heath was the best and the movie was better because of him.
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    ill say it again,, the movie WASN'T that good

    joker was good but it was way too long

    and that voice ?? batman smoked a few too many stogies
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    ill say it again,, the movie WASN'T that good

    joker was good but it was way too long

    and that voice ?? batman smoked a few too many stogies


    lol:D
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  • GeorgeMcFlyGeorgeMcFly Posts: 75
    The Dark Knight, for wanting to be a super realistic movie, has a glaring amount of plot holes. Not a single one of the Joker's plans would be possible if you think about it for more than 3 seconds. How does he get all the explosives on the boats without anyone noticing? How does he rig an entire building to collapse. This would take days and days of rigging. How does no one notice that bus? Why does he shoot at Dent in the big car chase if he wants him to live? A bomb inside someone? REALLY? How does he get out of the interrogation room when the doors don't open from the inside? 3D sonar images from cell phones? Give me a break. I could go on, but I hate the movie, and don't want to think about it any more.

    And that Batmobile is still really, really lame.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,929
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    I know I am gonna get bashed for this but I just thought it was pretty cool but not flawless like everybody else seems to think. Heath Ledger was amazing and the action scenes were great. I was very annoyed by Batmans phoney voice and the movie was a bit hard to follow at times. I also thought some of the dialogue was a bit cheesy. Overall I would give it a 7.5 or 8 at most.


    I think the thing that was truly "hyped" was Ledger's performance. And I think he surpassed that hype. The rest of the movie was really good. Not the greatest thing ever.....but after all....it's only a Batman movie. I think it was better than any previous Batmans, Spidermans, Supermans, etc. But yeah, it's not the greatest movie ever or anything like that
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,929
    GeorgeMcFly wrote:
    The Dark Knight, for wanting to be a super realistic movie, has a glaring amount of plot holes. Not a single one of the Joker's plans would be possible if you think about it for more than 3 seconds. How does he get all the explosives on the boats without anyone noticing? How does he rig an entire building to collapse. This would take days and days of rigging. How does no one notice that bus? Why does he shoot at Dent in the big car chase if he wants him to live? A bomb inside someone? REALLY? How does he get out of the interrogation room when the doors don't open from the inside? 3D sonar images from cell phones? Give me a break. I could go on, but I hate the movie, and don't want to think about it any more.

    And that Batmobile is still really, really lame.

    Really, why so serious? It's just a movie.
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    Slip Kid wrote:
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  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Really, why so serious? It's just a movie.


    no kidding.

    it's a movie about a guy dressed in a bat suit chasing around a guy painted up like a clown....just like the COMIC....

    lighten up.


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  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    GeorgeMcFly wrote:
    The Dark Knight, for wanting to be a super realistic movie, has a glaring amount of plot holes. Not a single one of the Joker's plans would be possible if you think about it for more than 3 seconds.

    Well, I'm pretty sure Batman himself wouldn't be possible, if you think about it for more than 3 seconds. :D
  • FnCircusFnCircus Posts: 439
    GeorgeMcFly wrote:
    The Dark Knight, for wanting to be a super realistic movie, has a glaring amount of plot holes. Not a single one of the Joker's plans would be possible if you think about it for more than 3 seconds.
    except for maybe the pencil trick............
  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    GeorgeMcFly wrote:
    The Dark Knight, for wanting to be a super realistic movie, has a glaring amount of plot holes. Not a single one of the Joker's plans would be possible if you think about it for more than 3 seconds. How does he get all the explosives on the boats without anyone noticing? How does he rig an entire building to collapse. This would take days and days of rigging. How does no one notice that bus? Why does he shoot at Dent in the big car chase if he wants him to live? A bomb inside someone? REALLY? How does he get out of the interrogation room when the doors don't open from the inside? 3D sonar images from cell phones? Give me a break. I could go on, but I hate the movie, and don't want to think about it any more.

    And that Batmobile is still really, really lame.

    well he did have alot of people helping him... and the bus was used by the hospital for patients but the joker and his crew stole it right from under their nose. thats where all the hostages at the end came from. sure there is some plot holes but you mentioned some things that arent.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    The plot was far from enthralling in my opinion...didn't really grab me or create much suspense. It felt flat.
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  • ||Release_Me||||Release_Me|| Posts: 1,871
    The film felt chaotic, in terms of storyline and the actual pacing of the film. I think it was meant to be like that; The Joker created chaos which affected everybody and everything, and i love that the creators of the film managed to make the film feel chaotic.

    Criticising Batman's voice....i think it's silly but fair enough if it bugged you. However, the comics do state that he disguises his voice so it wasn't something stupid that the filmmakers decided to put in there. It's a part of the Batman character.

    Although Ledger was by far the greatest thing in the film, the rest of it was still top notch. It didn't feel too long for me, and every actor turned in a great performance. Harvey Dent really sunk in the second time around.

    Easily the best superhero movie every made, and pretty damn impressive in terms of films in general. It surpassed the hype for me, and The Joker is still on my mind.
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  • blue mosquitoblue mosquito Posts: 39
    GeorgeMcFly wrote:
    The Dark Knight, for wanting to be a super realistic movie, has a glaring amount of plot holes. Not a single one of the Joker's plans would be possible if you think about it for more than 3 seconds. How does he get all the explosives on the boats without anyone noticing? How does he rig an entire building to collapse. This would take days and days of rigging. How does no one notice that bus? Why does he shoot at Dent in the big car chase if he wants him to live? A bomb inside someone? REALLY? How does he get out of the interrogation room when the doors don't open from the inside? 3D sonar images from cell phones? Give me a break. I could go on, but I hate the movie, and don't want to think about it any more.

    And that Batmobile is still really, really lame.

    A) It is a comic book film so we are politely asked to suspend all real world belief, if you go in expecting hard reality, perhaps you shouldn't go in in the first place.

    B) Gary Oldman leaves the interrogation room from the inside without anyone esle opening the door for him so we can chalk that off your list of complaints. Obviously it does open from the inside.

    C) What is so absurd about an explosive device implanted in someone through surgery? I am not medical but people get shit left inside them dring surgery now and then, there is room in there for stuff.

    D) He only shoots at the Dent with the smaller weapons, the rockets are fired at vehicles ahead of the Dent vehicle and one hits the Batmobile.
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  • GeorgeMcFlyGeorgeMcFly Posts: 75
    blue mosquito wrote:
    A) It is a comic book film so we are politely asked to suspend all real world belief, if you go in expecting hard reality, perhaps you shouldn't go in in the first place.

    B) Gary Oldman leaves the interrogation room from the inside without anyone esle opening the door for him so we can chalk that off your list of complaints. Obviously it does open from the inside.

    C) What is so absurd about an explosive device implanted in someone through surgery? I am not medical but people get shit left inside them dring surgery now and then, there is room in there for stuff.

    D) He only shoots at the Dent with the smaller weapons, the rockets are fired at vehicles ahead of the Dent vehicle and one hits the Batmobile.

    A: Chris Nolan and Christian Bale both say that they wanted to make an uncomic book Batman movie. They wanted as realistic as possible. They failed. And suspend real world belief argument is a cop out. Just because it's a movie, doesn't mean it has to be stupid.

    B: That's not how those doors work. See A.

    C: I am not medical, and neither is the Joker. See A.

    D: The whole chase is such a pointless event. The Joker wants to get caught, so he shoots rockets at all the police? That works. What a plan.

    Also, I forgot to mention how unGotham Chicago is. So that was lame. Also, in response to someone above, why do people work for the Joker is he just shoots them all? Wouldn't the word get around the stay the hell away?

    Anyway, most people love the movie. I just happen to think it's sort of a joke.
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