Microwaves are bad news!!

Heineken Helen

it's strange... I was just talking to one of the foremen yesterday about how brilliant asbestos was when IT was around :( and wondering what it is that we now use on a daily basis that's gonna be killing us all off in 20/30 years. As little as I use microwaves anyway, I think I'm gonna cut it out completely. I also talk on my mobile phone as little as possible. I know several people who'd get really bad headaches if they're on it for a while. Any modern stuff that uses invisible rays or waves, my jury's still out.

acoustic guy

I see more and more of a strong case that says they are bad. I also hear some say its over reacting.

I say, if there is enough debate about.......why take a chance. If you are right and they are bad then I saved my life. If they are safe then no harm no foul

Rygar

acoustic guy wrote:

I see more and more of a strong case that says they are bad. I also hear some say its over reacting.

I say, if there is enough debate about.......why take a chance.

Because there is debate about near everything.
Think of an apple. For the amount of time it took your brain to visualize an apple is the amount of time it takes for a microwave to dissipate.
Now look at your microwave (assuming you still have one). See the metal holed grate on the door? Metal reflects microwaves, and the grate on the door is designed so that the holes in the grate are smaller than the wavelength of the microwave, meaning it can't pass through the door.
So unless your microwave is broken, you're safe.
I think the debate should focus more on what kind of garbage people are cooking with their microwave, (then blaming the microwaves for turning their nutritious hot pockets into a chemical feast).

Either way, use it or don't use it, it's your choice.

Heineken Helen

acoustic guy wrote:

I see more and more of a strong case that says they are bad. I also hear some say its over reacting.

I say, if there is enough debate about.......why take a chance. If you are right and they are bad then I saved my life. If they are safe then no harm no foul

I completely agree.

If I have doubts about something, regardless of what anyone says, I'll listen to my doubts. As for over reacting... they probably said that when the asbestos thing came out too.

Rygar

http://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/info_microwaves/en/

nfanel

everything causes cancer... you gotta go somehow.

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

I think the debate should focus more on what kind of garbage people are cooking with their microwave, (then blaming the microwaves for turning their nutritious hot pockets into a chemical feast).

there you go....

caveman fear all these new technologies which caveman cannot see or even fathom being real. caveman scared by the magic with which metal box can heat up water and food

Rygar

chromiam wrote:

there you go....

caveman fear all these new technologies which caveman cannot see or even fathom being real. caveman scared by the magic with which metal box can heat up water and food

I'm just a simple caveman, and this strange metal box that makes my food warm confuses me and makes me want to hop into my BMW and just drive off into the mountains.

Heineken Helen

chromiam wrote:

there you go....

caveman fear all these new technologies which caveman cannot see or even fathom being real. caveman scared by the magic with which metal box can heat up water and food

it ain't really about fear... its just if ya don't like something, don't use it! It's all well and good with the big man talk putting others down... hopefully you won't be laughing on the other side of your face in years to come .

Who knows? None of us!

chromiam

Heineken Helen wrote:

it ain't really about fear... its just if ya don't like something, don't use it! It's all well and good with the big man talk putting others down... hopefully you won't be laughing on the other side of your face in years to come .

Who knows? None of us!

if its not about fear than what is it about??? If I have questions about something, I research it, get a nice amount of info on the topic and make an informed decision. I don't make uninformed comments or generic assumptions based on one or two things that I heard.

As for not using your cell phone because it can cause ailments, well it still emits the same energy waves whether you have it on and are talking on it or its on and sitting in your pocket.

if you have a gut feeling about something and follow it, thats fine. I trust my gut but I also trust my informed decision making skills.

Heineken Helen

chromiam wrote:

if its not about fear than what is it about??? If I have questions about something, I research it, get a nice amount of info on the topic and make an informed decision. I don't make uninformed comments or generic assumptions based on one or two things that I heard.

As for not using your cell phone because it can cause ailments, well it still emits the same energy waves whether you have it on and are talking on it or its on and sitting in your pocket.

if you have a gut feeling about something and follow it, thats fine. I trust my gut but I also trust my informed decision making skills.

Well I dunno about you, but i'm not a scientist and I don't believe everything I'm told. You can find research to support almost ANY kinda opinion... so it's up to you to choose whether to believe either of them... or just take no chances.

chromiam

Heineken Helen wrote:

Well I dunno about you, but i'm not a scientist and I don't believe everything I'm told. You can find research to support almost ANY kinda opinion... so it's up to you to choose whether to believe either of them... or just take no chances.

well actually I am.... And that's why I said you take in a nice amount of info (both sides) and make an informed decision. You don't need to be a scientist to know that if relatives on your dad's side have high blood pressure then there is a strong possibility that you will too, no matter how you eat.

If you take no chances, then you must live in a bubble and never leave the house because I don't know about you but I take a chance ever time I walk out my front door and sometimes before I even make it to the door.

Heineken Helen

chromiam wrote:

well actually I am.... And that's why I said you take in a nice amount of info (both sides) and make an informed decision. You don't need to be a scientist to know that if relatives on your dad's side have high blood pressure then there is a strong possibility that you will too, no matter how you eat.

If you take no chances, then you must live in a bubble and never leave the house because I don't know about you but I take a chance ever time I walk out my front door and sometimes before I even make it to the door.

But I HAVE taken in a nice amount of information on BOTH sides and decided that BOTH are insufficient to satisfy me so I'm staying away from it, thought that's pretty simple

I didn't say I don't take ANY chances... but there are some things that I don't trust. We're all different, all have different likes, dislikes, beliefs, whatever! You choose to trust the microwave, my jury's still out, so I don't.

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

But I HAVE taken in a nice amount of information on BOTH sides and decided that BOTH are insufficient to satisfy me so I'm staying away from it, thought that's pretty simple

Well if you can't trust the World Health Organization, who can you trust?

Indian Summer

pjtaper wrote:

When my mom was really sick we went to this place in Florida called Hippocrates Health Institute. They CURE cancer and work miracles (sometimes) by eating a very strange diet... They do shots of wheat grass, drink green drinks that are blended up sprouts, cucumbers, and other healthy raw veggies, and all they eat is raw vegetables (mostly sprouts)
While she was there I learned a lot about diet and since the first day she went there, I learned about microwaves and stopped using them completely. It has now been a year since I've used a microwave... I use my quessadilla machine almost dailey and the oven/stove for everything else...
I remember them saying using a microwave is like having a nuke go off in your insides...

Did they cure your mom?

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

Well if you can't trust the World Health Organization, who can you trust?

huh? You can trust them? Since when?

LikeAnOcean

acoustic guy wrote:

Nobody cares???
OK. see ya in the promise land!

I did my research on this a while back. ANY cooking kills nutrients in food. Thats why you get the most out of raw meats and vegetables... As long as you set your microwave on low power, it is no different than cooking a meal on the stove..

Cooking is actually quite a new invention in the human evolution. It is not necessary, but makes the food taste good... all a microwave does is send micro waves into your food which cause the water molecules to violently bounce around an heat up.. nothing bad is left inside of your food. The waves leave it as quickly as they enter, but the cooking kills off some of the nutrients, again same with old fashioned cooking.

The problem is not the microwave, but what they put into prepackaged food, microwaved or cooked the old fashioned way..

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

huh? You can trust them? Since when?

I'm jokin' Helen.
WHO says there's no evidence to support any negative health effects from microwaves (or cell phones, or power lines (although they're not completely convinced of power lines yet)).

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I prefer to heat and cook my food the natural way with very low frequency infra red. The exact same thing the sun gives off that provides life on earth. That's natural. Blasting your food with high frequency noise is too violent and destructive to subject someting that is going to go inside and become you imo.

It's just unnatural anyway you look at it. It's a lazy person device.

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

I'm jokin' Helen.
WHO says there's no evidence to support any negative health effects from microwaves (or cell phones, or power lines (although they're not completely convinced of power lines yet)).

but don't you understand... I don't want any evidence. I believe in god for fuck sake ... if I get a headache from being on the mobile for too long, well I'll calm down with using it. And if they're not completely convinced, how can they make a statment like that?