Well lookie what we have here!
A bunch of innocent angel do gooders who never did anything like this before.
Oh no, none of you have ever did anything wrong in your life right?
if i did, i would not advertise it!!!!
So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
My daughter is in a wheelchair. I would be pissed if we couldn't get a wheelchair accessible room just because people lied to get a bigger room.
Really some people don't realize how great their lives are. I'd give anything to not have to have a wheelchair accessible room :(
Just wanted to add that she is only almost 3, but the wheel span on her chair is huge! We can't even use it in our house, it won't fit thru the doorways. And even tho she is really young and weighs only about 30 lbs, she is a quadriplegic so she can't help and hold on to us, so she gets heavy really fast.
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Well lookie what we have here!
A bunch of innocent angel do gooders who never did anything like this before.
Oh no, none of you have ever did anything wrong in your life right?
BULLSHIT.
Maybe it was not the nicest thing to do, okay. But give me a break please people. I love how all of you put on a front like you are totally innocent people.
The regular ones who I talk to on here know I am not a bad guy.
Lighten up.
LOL, nigga please.
well yeah, but not since I turned 21-I dont have to lie about my age anymore
this is so stupid. And you're proud of yourself? And then you use the N word on top of it?
What are you going to do when you show up and don't have someone in a wheel chair?
My mother broke her leg last yr and she actually needed a wheel chair.
That's just an ill-conceived idea to say the least and at the most, I would never even fathom having the audacity to try to do something like that to get a slightly bigger room.
And my father has a spinal cord injury and can't walk on his own.
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My daughter is in a wheelchair. I would be pissed if we couldn't get a wheelchair accessible room just because people lied to get a bigger room.
Really some people don't realize how great their lives are. I'd give anything to not have to have a wheelchair accessible room :(
This is exactly why I think it's a shitty thing to do... sure, I laugh at the people who call the scalpers and the merch flippers evil and all that shit. I know where you're going with the "do-gooder" comment... I don't care how bad you want the poster or to see the show, your life isn't going to be any worse off if you don't get it.
What if someone in a wheelchair is traveling by themselves and can't get around in a normal room? What if it's a child with their parents and they have to be incredibly inconvenienced being stuck in a room that isn't capable of handling a wheelchair? Trust me... nobody is cruising around in a wheelchair because they get cool hotel rooms and priority boarding on a plane.
I don't know, man... I'd feel really shitty pulling something like that
This is exactly why I think it's a shitty thing to do... sure, I laugh at the people who call the scalpers and the merch flippers evil and all that shit. I know where you're going with the "do-gooder" comment... I don't care how bad you want the poster or to see the show, your life isn't going to be any worse off if you don't get it.
What if someone in a wheelchair is traveling by themselves and can't get around in a normal room? What if it's a child with their parents and they have to be incredibly inconvenienced being stuck in a room that isn't capable of handling a wheelchair? Trust me... nobody is cruising around in a wheelchair because they get cool hotel rooms and priority boarding on a plane.
I don't know, man... I'd feel really shitty pulling something like that
Okay okay okay.
Let me say that I do respect the opinions of the people in here even though I do not know them personally. I do feel bad for trying to get a room by pulling that stunt. But for the record, I did not get one of those rooms, I got and paid for a suite. The hotel is not making exceptions b/c of the wheelchair BS.
As I said before none of you are perfect and none of you can say you never done anything wrong so go easy people okay? We all have skeletons in our closet, I'm just the stupid one to post them sometimes. LOL
Holy shit.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
One of my favorite things on the board is when some jackass posts a thread about something horrible he/she did. And when people call him/her on it, the poster always responds by trying to justify it with something in the vein of "OMG like you are all perfect angels who never did anything wrong!" Every time.
Well, say what you want about us, but that doesn't change the fact that you, sir, are a dick.
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One of my favorite things on the board is when some jackass posts a thread about something horrible he/she did. And when people call him/her on it, the poster always responds by trying to justify it with something in the vein of "OMG like you are all perfect angels who never did anything wrong!" Every time.
Well, say what you want about us, but that doesn't change the fact that you, sir, are a dick.
Cheers to that response!
I think it's just a dick thing to do. It's pretty sad when you need to stoop that low.
Christ, I've stayed in hostels..some of which were really shitty..and I haven't complained...you on the other hand, had the audacity to do something like that. Maybe something will crush your leg and make you need that room? Talk about Karma!
Okay okay okay.
Let me say that I do respect the opinions of the people in here even though I do not know them personally. I do feel bad for trying to get a room by pulling that stunt. But for the record, I did not get one of those rooms, I got and paid for a suite. The hotel is not making exceptions b/c of the wheelchair BS.
As I said before none of you are perfect and none of you can say you never done anything wrong so go easy people okay? We all have skeletons in our closet, I'm just the stupid one to post them sometimes. LOL
Holy shit.
I was going to stay out of this thread.
But honestly, I would never/have never lied by telling someone that a friends was in a wheelchair to get a better room. Regardless of whether it worked or not, thats what you tried to do.
Whatever. Yeah, Im not innocent. But I would never do THAT.
Just becasue I have a speeding ticket, am I not supposed to villify murderers???
there are degrees to wrongdoing.
Stealing a grape from the grocery store is not as bad as killing someone.
One of my favorite things on the board is when some jackass posts a thread about something horrible he/she did. And when people call him/her on it, the poster always responds by trying to justify it with something in the vein of "OMG like you are all perfect angels who never did anything wrong!" Every time.
Well, say what you want about us, but that doesn't change the fact that you, sir, are a dick.
That is the best post on here. I don't think any of us were claiming to be saints.. I know I am not but there are just some low things to do... and sure he didn't get that room but still. And Vedd Head, also well said. Thank you!!
Who else has done good or bad things is beside the point. You started the thread about something you did. What did you expect people to say? I hope you never have to use a wheelchair. I work with some people who do. I bet they'd take getting a smaller room if they could walk.
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One of my favorite things on the board is when some jackass posts a thread about something horrible he/she did. And when people call him/her on it, the poster always responds by trying to justify it with something in the vein of "OMG like you are all perfect angels who never did anything wrong!" Every time.
lol. I know! I love it.
People, if you don't want to hear opinions that differ from your own, then don't post your damn story on a message board that is visited by hundreds or thousands of people from all over the world. :rolleyes:
Okay okay okay.
Let me say that I do respect the opinions of the people in here even though I do not know them personally. I do feel bad for trying to get a room by pulling that stunt. But for the record, I did not get one of those rooms, I got and paid for a suite. The hotel is not making exceptions b/c of the wheelchair BS.
As I said before none of you are perfect and none of you can say you never done anything wrong so go easy people okay? We all have skeletons in our closet, I'm just the stupid one to post them sometimes. LOL
Holy shit.
oh come on, don't say you DIDN'T expect this
Besides... I AM perfect! :cool:
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So it IS true, people actually do this. Hmm, what to say, what to say?
Tell you what, so that you're not breaking the law (and so that I can kick your arse) how about I take that room?
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Who else has done good or bad things is beside the point. You started the thread about something you did. What did you expect people to say? I hope you never have to use a wheelchair. I work with some people who do. I bet they'd take getting a smaller room if they could walk.
Have any of them been disabled from birth? Why do you assume they give a rats ass whether they can walk or not?
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Have any of them been disabled from birth? Why do you assume they give a rats ass whether they can walk or not?
I'd imagine she meant absolutely no harm in what she said! I would actually presume that most people in wheelchairs WOULD want to walk but I'm sure wheelchairs have their plus points too... like not having to walk
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
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So it IS true, people actually do this. Hmm, what to say, what to say?
Tell you what, so that you're not breaking the law (and so that I can kick your arse) how about I take that room?
I'll help ya bud.
Let's get it on.
Be some funny stuff
throwin all their fucking
crap out into the parking lot for 'em.
All while they stand there and do nothing about
except look at their shoes and get their asses
out of your fucking room and pick up all their fucking junk.
"See ya fuckers".
Good quality times are in our future Mr. harmless my friend.
It's not the getting of the wheelchair room that bugs me, it's that the hotel obviously kept aside that 1 room in case someone with a wheelchair actually needed it but you still bugged them until it was yours. Fair enough if you feel cheeky and they have a few going spare (not entirely moral, but not that bad), but keeping on at it as if you really needed that room is going a bit far in my humble opinion. And really, if you want to pull a stunt like that you shouldn't come onto a public forum and gloat about it...
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I'd imagine she meant absolutely no harm in what she said! I would actually presume that most people in wheelchairs WOULD want to walk but I'm sure wheelchairs have their plus points too... like not having to walk
Of course she meant no harm, I didn't say that at all. I was merely interested in that point she was making. I meant no harm either.
That said, I know several people who have been disabled from birth (like myself) and for them, wishing you could walk is akin to wishing you were blonde, or your skin was black. The idea that walking = 'better' is an inadequate, and usually able-bodied-centric, view. We're not talking about wheelchairs having their 'plus points' but we are talking about human beings being proud of themselves for what they are and perfectly happy in their own skin.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Of course she meant no harm, I didn't say that at all. I was merely interested in that point she was making. I meant no harm either.
That said, I know several people who have been disabled from birth (like myself) and for them, wishing you could walk is akin to wishing you were blonde, or your skin was black. The idea that walking = 'better' is an inadequate, and usually able-bodied-centric, view. We're not talking about wheelchairs having their 'plus points' but we are talking about human beings being proud of themselves for what they are and perfectly happy in their own skin.
Oh no, I get ya! I, too, don't mean any harm... but I would just imagine life would be easier to not be in a wheelchair... like not having to put up with any prejudices or patronising shit being one thing... but sometimes that can make you a stronger person anyway.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Oh no, I get ya! I, too, don't mean any harm... but I would just imagine life would be easier to not be in a wheelchair... like not having to put up with any prejudices or patronising shit being one thing... but sometimes that can make you a stronger person anyway.
Everyone has prejudices against everyone, not just people in wheelchairs.. you know that, of course.. Black face prejudice, as do Asians, but neither group wishes they were white. Women often face discrimination in work and in the home.. I don't hear you wishing you were a man. I've met Simon and I know for a fact you're a very happy heterosexual woman. We need to start thinking of disabled people as a people group, a subculture, rather than a fringe collection of disadvantaged poor.
Let's just say that there are things I wish were different about me but none of them involve being able to walk.. I wish I could live by the sea, for example.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Everyone has prejudices against everyone, not just people in wheelchairs.. you know that, of course.. Black face prejudice, as do Asians, but neither group wishes they were white. Women often face discrimination in work and in the home.. I don't hear you wishing you were a man. I've met Simon and I know for a fact you're a very happy heterosexual woman. We need to start thinking of disabled people as a people group, a subculture, rather than a fringe collection of disadvantaged poor.
Let's just say that there are things I wish were different about me but none of them involve being able to walk.. I wish I could live by the sea, for example.
Fair enough although I'll disagree with one point... why do we need to start thinking of disabled people as a people group or a subculture? Or any OTHER 'group' of people for that matter... grouping people into sections is what leads to prejudices.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
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What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Fair enough although I'll disagree with one point... why do we need to start thinking of disabled people as a people group or a subculture? Or any OTHER 'group' of people for that matter... grouping people into sections is what leads to prejudices.
I agree with that entirely.. yet we cannot argue that in our society there 'are' differences between disabled and able-bodied, it's just that the differences don't lie where able-bodied people often think they do.. It's not about walking/not walking. The prejudices are the problem, not the disabilities. It's society's problem, not ours. Prejudices are lumped on disabled people from the outside, by the able-bodied. Imagine if disability suddenly became 'normal', that no one assumed that 'sometimes they wish they were different.' None of this 'grouping people into sections' would exist at all.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I agree with that entirely.. yet we cannot argue that in our society there 'are' differences between disabled and able-bodied, it's just that the differences don't lie where able-bodied people often think they do.. It's not about walking/not walking. The prejudices are the problem, not the disabilities. It's society's problem, not ours. Prejudices are lumped on disabled people from the outside, by the able-bodied. Imagine if disability suddenly became 'normal', that no one assumed that 'sometimes they wish they were different.' None of this 'grouping people into sections' would exist at all.
Oh absolutely... although it's not really a point I can argue... cos if I refute your point I WILL appear heartless or patronising and I don't wanna do that but thanks for teaching me that teaching course is a great choice.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Oh absolutely... although it's not really a point I can argue... cos if I refute your point I WILL appear heartless or patronising and I don't wanna do that but thanks for teaching me that teaching course is a great choice.
Don't worry, there's one thing that arguing and refuting points can never be... and that is patronsing.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Just becasue I have a speeding ticket, am I not supposed to villify murderers???
there are degrees to wrongdoing.
hahaha I was trying to think of how to word this! thanks Vedd Hedd.
I was thinking like "no, actually, I have never done anything wrong." and then the first and only thing that came to my mind was that I often leave my cell phone charger plugged in.
I'd never, ever do something like this.
and really, it's been said, but the bragging about it is almost to the point of being hilarious. I mean I can imagine someone parking in a handicapped parking spot, which is pretty a pretty shitty thing to do (we've all seen that seinfeld...) but I can't imagine them then going and being all like "me, one, parking lot, zero, lol"
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if i did, i would not advertise it!!!!
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Really some people don't realize how great their lives are. I'd give anything to not have to have a wheelchair accessible room :(
Just wanted to add that she is only almost 3, but the wheel span on her chair is huge! We can't even use it in our house, it won't fit thru the doorways. And even tho she is really young and weighs only about 30 lbs, she is a quadriplegic so she can't help and hold on to us, so she gets heavy really fast.
well yeah, but not since I turned 21-I dont have to lie about my age anymore
What are you going to do when you show up and don't have someone in a wheel chair?
My mother broke her leg last yr and she actually needed a wheel chair.
That's just an ill-conceived idea to say the least and at the most, I would never even fathom having the audacity to try to do something like that to get a slightly bigger room.
And my father has a spinal cord injury and can't walk on his own.
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
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and Metsy!
This is exactly why I think it's a shitty thing to do... sure, I laugh at the people who call the scalpers and the merch flippers evil and all that shit. I know where you're going with the "do-gooder" comment... I don't care how bad you want the poster or to see the show, your life isn't going to be any worse off if you don't get it.
What if someone in a wheelchair is traveling by themselves and can't get around in a normal room? What if it's a child with their parents and they have to be incredibly inconvenienced being stuck in a room that isn't capable of handling a wheelchair? Trust me... nobody is cruising around in a wheelchair because they get cool hotel rooms and priority boarding on a plane.
I don't know, man... I'd feel really shitty pulling something like that
Okay okay okay.
Let me say that I do respect the opinions of the people in here even though I do not know them personally. I do feel bad for trying to get a room by pulling that stunt. But for the record, I did not get one of those rooms, I got and paid for a suite. The hotel is not making exceptions b/c of the wheelchair BS.
As I said before none of you are perfect and none of you can say you never done anything wrong so go easy people okay? We all have skeletons in our closet, I'm just the stupid one to post them sometimes. LOL
Holy shit.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Well, say what you want about us, but that doesn't change the fact that you, sir, are a dick.
Cheers to that response!
I think it's just a dick thing to do. It's pretty sad when you need to stoop that low.
Christ, I've stayed in hostels..some of which were really shitty..and I haven't complained...you on the other hand, had the audacity to do something like that. Maybe something will crush your leg and make you need that room? Talk about Karma!
I was going to stay out of this thread.
But honestly, I would never/have never lied by telling someone that a friends was in a wheelchair to get a better room. Regardless of whether it worked or not, thats what you tried to do.
Whatever. Yeah, Im not innocent. But I would never do THAT.
Just becasue I have a speeding ticket, am I not supposed to villify murderers???
there are degrees to wrongdoing.
Stealing a grape from the grocery store is not as bad as killing someone.
What you did was somewhere in the middle.
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That is the best post on here. I don't think any of us were claiming to be saints.. I know I am not but there are just some low things to do... and sure he didn't get that room but still. And Vedd Head, also well said. Thank you!!
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lol. I know! I love it.
People, if you don't want to hear opinions that differ from your own, then don't post your damn story on a message board that is visited by hundreds or thousands of people from all over the world. :rolleyes:
Besides... I AM perfect! :cool:
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Tell you what, so that you're not breaking the law (and so that I can kick your arse) how about I take that room?
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Have any of them been disabled from birth? Why do you assume they give a rats ass whether they can walk or not?
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
OH SNAP!
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
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I'll help ya bud.
Let's get it on.
Be some funny stuff
throwin all their fucking
crap out into the parking lot for 'em.
All while they stand there and do nothing about
except look at their shoes and get their asses
out of your fucking room and pick up all their fucking junk.
"See ya fuckers".
Good quality times are in our future Mr. harmless my friend.
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Of course she meant no harm, I didn't say that at all. I was merely interested in that point she was making. I meant no harm either.
That said, I know several people who have been disabled from birth (like myself) and for them, wishing you could walk is akin to wishing you were blonde, or your skin was black. The idea that walking = 'better' is an inadequate, and usually able-bodied-centric, view. We're not talking about wheelchairs having their 'plus points' but we are talking about human beings being proud of themselves for what they are and perfectly happy in their own skin.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Everyone has prejudices against everyone, not just people in wheelchairs.. you know that, of course.. Black face prejudice, as do Asians, but neither group wishes they were white. Women often face discrimination in work and in the home.. I don't hear you wishing you were a man. I've met Simon and I know for a fact you're a very happy heterosexual woman.
Let's just say that there are things I wish were different about me but none of them involve being able to walk.. I wish I could live by the sea, for example.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I agree with that entirely.. yet we cannot argue that in our society there 'are' differences between disabled and able-bodied, it's just that the differences don't lie where able-bodied people often think they do.. It's not about walking/not walking. The prejudices are the problem, not the disabilities. It's society's problem, not ours. Prejudices are lumped on disabled people from the outside, by the able-bodied. Imagine if disability suddenly became 'normal', that no one assumed that 'sometimes they wish they were different.' None of this 'grouping people into sections' would exist at all.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Don't worry, there's one thing that arguing and refuting points can never be... and that is patronsing.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
hahaha I was trying to think of how to word this! thanks Vedd Hedd.
I was thinking like "no, actually, I have never done anything wrong." and then the first and only thing that came to my mind was that I often leave my cell phone charger plugged in.
I'd never, ever do something like this.
and really, it's been said, but the bragging about it is almost to the point of being hilarious. I mean I can imagine someone parking in a handicapped parking spot, which is pretty a pretty shitty thing to do (we've all seen that seinfeld...) but I can't imagine them then going and being all like "me, one, parking lot, zero, lol"
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