I was just talking about the withdrawal I KNEW about and that happened to be opiate withdrawal. Didn't feel the need to research when the OP had stated it was an opiate... Just thought he knew what he was talking about. So I offered what I knew. Sorry for trying to be HELPFUL...shhheeeshhhh!
You are very helpful! You gave me an excuse to eat lots and lots of candy and sugar!
I appreciate everyone that has posted with advice etc. I can always use it and would love to hear some more
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just take care of yourself and let us know...we all want u to get better!
I do too!! I am really really upset and hope that I didnt really screw with my health! I dont wanna die young :(
Everyone has been very supportive(especially you) and I appreciate it very much!
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From what you're describing it doesn't seem like those symptoms are due to a liver injury. Skin turning yellow, however, is a big sign of a liver injury. The best thing you can do right now is stop thinking about it until you see a doctor, because when you get a neurotic idea stuck in your head it's not going anywhere. It's a vicious cycle. Make a doctors appointment and have it checked out, if these pains are really irritating. Obviously you need to quit the drugs, so the doctor should give you a referral for that. Till then, just take your mind off of it and I'm sure it'll start getting better. Good luck.
OP ride it out and NEVER forget how it felt to go through it.
As changein Waves said Find an open AA meeting. Lot more people with sobriety and while there are chronic relapsers , You will, I think , have a better chance. Also Meetings alone ain't going to cut it. At least not for me. Working " the program "is what does it.
I've had my own issues as an Equal opportunity substance abuser.I can tell you that my life has gotten incredible better because of AA and the people in it.
Feel free to PM me and check out the "PJ fans in 12 step recovery " thread in Words and Music
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
did you have a CBC yet? it's the blood test that you get early in the a.m. after fasting. that will show if you have damaged your kidneys or liver. it will show your blood sugar (glucose) level as well. it will let the doctor know if you need additional tests.
you might be ok, I mean, after keith richards is still alive and so is niki sixx from motley crue
but please be careful with kava kava, I read an article about a girl who had liver problems from that.
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Although kratom is not a true opiate, the withdrawal is very similar. Kratom has similar effects, wd symptoms, and a chemical makeup to opiates. I don't think the wd is as severe or dangerous, but I know it is going to be hell for at least 3-4 days and similar to that of a hyrocodone wd so advice on how to handle that is very helpful.
Right now I think I might go to the Student Health Services tomorrow at 11am and the appt times seem to only be for 15 minutes....wtf? I don't know what I will tell the Dr.
There is no way I am going to a treatment center! I cant let my parents know. I don't think I need that type of help because I don't think kratom is very serious. My plan is to take 3-4 days off and see how that goes, if it becomes too much to handle, I will get help.
Kratom isn't very serious, but when combined with drinking alcohol, you never know. It could be extremely serious. That's why I think you should stop drinking first, then see a doctor about the inner pain to see what he/she says, THEN worry about going through krat withdrawal.
OP ride it out and NEVER forget how it felt to go through it.
As changein Waves said Find an open AA meeting. Lot more people with sobriety and while there are chronic relapsers , You will, I think , have a better chance. Also Meetings alone ain't going to cut it. At least not for me. Working " the program "is what does it.
I've had my own issues as an Equal opportunity substance abuser.I can tell you that my life has gotten incredible better because of AA and the people in it.
Feel free to PM me and check out the "PJ fans in 12 step recovery " thread in Words and Music
Yea I am debating about whether or not to go to an AA or NA meeting. It is kinda intimidating though. Never thought I would go to one and I know for sure I am not comfortable enough with it to say anything at those meetings for the first few times at least.
Thank you very much for the PM offer, it's always nice to know I can talk to someone. I actually already read that thread and I really enjoyed it and it helped put things in perspective. I should post there!
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Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
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he grew a beard.
did you have a CBC yet? it's the blood test that you get early in the a.m. after fasting. that will show if you have damaged your kidneys or liver. it will show your blood sugar (glucose) level as well. it will let the doctor know if you need additional tests.
you might be ok, I mean, after keith richards is still alive and so is niki sixx from motley crue
but please be careful with kava kava, I read an article about a girl who had liver problems from that.
No I haven't had it yet. I don't know if and when I am going to the Dr. If I don't go tomorrow, I won't go until Monday and I am not very comfortable telling someone about my problem.
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Kratom isn't very serious, but when combined with drinking alcohol, you never know. It could be extremely serious. That's why I think you should stop drinking first, then see a doctor about the inner pain to see what he/she says, THEN worry about going through krat withdrawal.
I know that the kratom that I do isn't your typical kratom. I have very potent stuff that is liquid form in a tincture, not the standard powder. I know they mix other chemicals into the tincture, so it's not just kratom.
The drinking really isn't a problem, I really don't have desire to drink and only do it when I go out to parties. After this weekend I am going to cut down on everything, and will result in boring weekends, but oh well. I may drink this weekend, 2-3 beers a night to help me through the insomnia part of wd. Then next week I may go to the Doctor
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Have you been to see a doctor yet? You may have posted that you have, but I am concerned about you, and I really hope you have..
Nope and if I don't go in tomorrow, I am not going till next week sometime
I am afraid of this Dr visit and what Im going to say
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Took hopefully my final dose a little bit ago and that was just so that I feel alright to go to my classes tomorrow. After 5pm tomorrow I am done with doing anything important for a few days, so I can withdraw while I am in my room playing video games and watching movies alllll day. Still dont know if im goin to the Dr. this week
Tomorrow will be a tough day mentally and will probably have insomnia later on at night, but my friend who also does it will be taking a day off with me!
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Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
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Took hopefully my final dose a little bit ago and that was just so that I feel alright to go to my classes tomorrow. After 5pm tomorrow I am done with doing anything important for a few days, so I can withdraw while I am in my room playing video games and watching movies alllll day. Still dont know if im goin to the Dr. this week
please see a Dr. they are there to help you.
our family Dr. was actually hurt that my husband had not come to him for help...and waited 4 yrs to tell him.
The Dr. 's are there to keep you healthy ...please go see yours!!
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
Yea I am debating about whether or not to go to an AA or NA meeting. It is kinda intimidating though. Never thought I would go to one and I know for sure I am not comfortable enough with it to say anything at those meetings for the first few times at least.
Thank you very much for the PM offer, it's always nice to know I can talk to someone. I actually already read that thread and I really enjoyed it and it helped put things in perspective. I should post there!
Thats what is cool about an AA meeting. You don't have to say anything!If you do you can give a false name or jet just before the end. Someone should give you a book though.Biggest thing , while you are there see if you can identify with anyone there.Probably hit a aspeaker meeting first so you can listen to someones story.Very important and the upshot is there is lees of a chance you would be looked at to talk.Look online for meetings in your area.
And yes you would be very welcome at the recovery thread!Please do post.What you are going thrigh could help someone else to make a change in their life.Part of what it's about.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
please see a Dr. they are there to help you.
our family Dr. was actually hurt that my husband had not come to him for help...and waited 4 yrs to tell him.
The Dr. 's are there to keep you healthy ...please go see yours!!
Yea I should, probably on Monday. What do you think he will do for me? Give me a blood test? Give me a prescription to ease the withdrawal? What did he do for your husband if you don't mind me asking?
It's not going to be my family Doctor just a random one at the Student Health Services, and on the website each appointment you can schedule has "(15 minutes)" next to it, meaning they are only 15 minutes long! What the hell is with that!? I feel I would need longer than that.
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Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
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Yea I should, probably on Monday. What do you think he will do for me? Give me a blood test? Give me a prescription to ease the withdrawal? What did he do for your husband if you don't mind me asking?
It's not going to be my family Doctor just a random one at the Student Health Services, and on the website each appointment you can schedule has "(15 minutes)" next to it, meaning they are only 15 minutes long! What the hell is with that!? I feel I would need longer than that.
My husband didn't tell our Dr. until after he had gone thru the withdrawal and entered rehab. I can't say what the Dr. will do for you, but it's always good to have a healthcare professional know what's going on so they can best advise you. Good luck thru all of this, it won't be easy but it'll be worth it! And really think about the open AA meetings...you only have to go and listen. They are very inspirational that you can get thru this.:)
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
I know that the kratom that I do isn't your typical kratom. I have very potent stuff that is liquid form in a tincture, not the standard powder. I know they mix other chemicals into the tincture, so it's not just kratom.
Unless you're gettin' bunked, they don't mix other chemicals into it. They're just extracting the alkaloids from the krat. Other chemicals are used to do that, but they shouldn't end up in the extract. If they do, then don't buy whoever you've been buying from.
The drinking really isn't a problem, I really don't have desire to drink and only do it when I go out to parties. After this weekend I am going to cut down on everything, and will result in boring weekends, but oh well. I may drink this weekend, 2-3 beers a night to help me through the insomnia part of wd. Then next week I may go to the Doctor
Dewd...the drinking by itself probably isn't a problem. What I'm saying is that COMBINED with krat use, it could produce a serious health risk. I'm not sure about that, but if you're hurting inside, that sounds bad. Just go to the freakin' doc already and tell him what hurts. THAT is the thing to worry about, not your withdrawal period. From what you described initially, you were feeling pains BEFORE going through withdrawal. That's why I've been saying what I've been saying.
Sooo day one was mentally hard and a little physical. I couldnt swim like I usually do, kinda felt sick while I was exercising. I don't think I'll have insomnia tonight due to my friend and I smoking a little. Tomorrow is going to be hell on Earth for my joints and I will be exhausted. Oh well I already told my parents that Im coming home this weekend, so I will be spending time with my family and dog and kittens so I am REALLY excited about that no matter how shitty I feel!!! Thanks to CHANGEinWAVES for reminding me to take my dog for walks to fight the restless legs! Happy about that..
Both of my sides kinda hurt, I am starting to be convinced it's just muscle pains. I played water polo for the first time in a week last night and my side kinda hurt after. Tonight I went swimming and I definitely pull more water with my right side. Although it's weird because it isnt muscle soreness, just like a dullish pain sometimes.....hmmmmm...... still no Doctor and I am leaving for home tomorrow, so not till Monday if I do go..
Nice to break away from the college scene but even better to be with my family; I feel like I really let them down even though they dont know.
what a day.....ill respond to everyone else that I havent responded to tomorrow
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Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
Sooo day one was mentally hard and a little physical. I couldnt swim like I usually do, kinda felt sick while I was exercising. I don't think I'll have insomnia tonight due to my friend and I smoking a little. Tomorrow is going to be hell on Earth for my joints and I will be exhausted. Oh well I already told my parents that Im coming home this weekend, so I will be spending time with my family and dog and kittens so I am REALLY excited about that no matter how shitty I feel!!! Thanks to CHANGEinWAVES for reminding me to take my dog for walks to fight the restless legs! Happy about that..
Both of my sides kinda hurt, I am starting to be convinced it's just muscle pains. I played water polo for the first time in a week last night and my side kinda hurt after. Tonight I went swimming and I definitely pull more water with my right side. Although it's weird because it isnt muscle soreness, just like a dullish pain sometimes.....hmmmmm...... still no Doctor and I am leaving for home tomorrow, so not till Monday if I do go..
Nice to break away from the college scene but even better to be with my family; I feel like I really let them down even though they dont know.
what a day.....ill respond to everyone else that I havent responded to tomorrow
Wishing you well... and try to make it to a dr. some time please.
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
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You are very helpful! You gave me an excuse to eat lots and lots of candy and sugar!
I appreciate everyone that has posted with advice etc. I can always use it and would love to hear some more
Member # 0004
Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
sorry to hear about ur war with opiates:(
I do too!! I am really really upset and hope that I didnt really screw with my health! I dont wanna die young :(
Everyone has been very supportive(especially you) and I appreciate it very much!
Member # 0004
Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
As changein Waves said Find an open AA meeting. Lot more people with sobriety and while there are chronic relapsers , You will, I think , have a better chance. Also Meetings alone ain't going to cut it. At least not for me. Working " the program "is what does it.
I've had my own issues as an Equal opportunity substance abuser.I can tell you that my life has gotten incredible better because of AA and the people in it.
Feel free to PM me and check out the "PJ fans in 12 step recovery " thread in Words and Music
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
you might be ok, I mean, after keith richards is still alive and so is niki sixx from motley crue
but please be careful with kava kava, I read an article about a girl who had liver problems from that.
8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
10/10 - Brad in B'more
Yea I am debating about whether or not to go to an AA or NA meeting. It is kinda intimidating though. Never thought I would go to one and I know for sure I am not comfortable enough with it to say anything at those meetings for the first few times at least.
Thank you very much for the PM offer, it's always nice to know I can talk to someone. I actually already read that thread and I really enjoyed it and it helped put things in perspective. I should post there!
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Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
No I haven't had it yet. I don't know if and when I am going to the Dr. If I don't go tomorrow, I won't go until Monday and I am not very comfortable telling someone about my problem.
Member # 0004
Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
I know that the kratom that I do isn't your typical kratom. I have very potent stuff that is liquid form in a tincture, not the standard powder. I know they mix other chemicals into the tincture, so it's not just kratom.
The drinking really isn't a problem, I really don't have desire to drink and only do it when I go out to parties. After this weekend I am going to cut down on everything, and will result in boring weekends, but oh well. I may drink this weekend, 2-3 beers a night to help me through the insomnia part of wd. Then next week I may go to the Doctor
Member # 0004
Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
Nope
I am afraid of this Dr visit and what Im going to say
Member # 0004
Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
Tomorrow will be a tough day mentally and will probably have insomnia later on at night, but my friend who also does it will be taking a day off with me!
Member # 0004
Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
our family Dr. was actually hurt that my husband had not come to him for help...and waited 4 yrs to tell him.
The Dr. 's are there to keep you healthy ...please go see yours!!
And yes you would be very welcome at the recovery thread!Please do post.What you are going thrigh could help someone else to make a change in their life.Part of what it's about.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Yea I should, probably on Monday. What do you think he will do for me? Give me a blood test? Give me a prescription to ease the withdrawal? What did he do for your husband if you don't mind me asking?
It's not going to be my family Doctor just a random one at the Student Health Services, and on the website each appointment you can schedule has "(15 minutes)" next to it, meaning they are only 15 minutes long! What the hell is with that!? I feel I would need longer than that.
Member # 0004
Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.
Unless you're gettin' bunked, they don't mix other chemicals into it. They're just extracting the alkaloids from the krat. Other chemicals are used to do that, but they shouldn't end up in the extract. If they do, then don't buy whoever you've been buying from.
Dewd...the drinking by itself probably isn't a problem. What I'm saying is that COMBINED with krat use, it could produce a serious health risk. I'm not sure about that, but if you're hurting inside, that sounds bad. Just go to the freakin' doc already and tell him what hurts. THAT is the thing to worry about, not your withdrawal period. From what you described initially, you were feeling pains BEFORE going through withdrawal. That's why I've been saying what I've been saying.
Good luck!
Both of my sides kinda hurt, I am starting to be convinced it's just muscle pains. I played water polo for the first time in a week last night and my side kinda hurt after. Tonight I went swimming and I definitely pull more water with my right side. Although it's weird because it isnt muscle soreness, just like a dullish pain sometimes.....hmmmmm...... still no Doctor and I am leaving for home tomorrow, so not till Monday if I do go..
Nice to break away from the college scene but even better to be with my family; I feel like I really let them down even though they dont know.
what a day.....ill respond to everyone else that I havent responded to tomorrow
Member # 0004
Rather than being birthed like a normal child, Chuck Norris instead
decided to punch his way out of his mother's womb. Shortly thereafter
he grew a beard.