By 'protection' I mean the original definition.. not the latest definition
'Protection' doesn't always mean bailing someone out with hundreds of billions of whatever currency you use
thats exactly what i just said... what the govt has just announced ISNT protection... it just means there might be more offer of financial support in the form of loans and overdrafts..
i think we're agreeing on the same thing but just in a different way
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
They sell vets wholesale? Can I get one at Costco?
veterinary is different from veterinarian.. nice joke though
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Don't think my job would be put in jeopardy by it, but it has certainly had an effect on the business
I thought my job was the safest in the company and yet I'm gone... and there's still other people there! So don't get too comfy... and save save save just in case. At the very least you'll have a nice holiday after a while
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I thought my job was the safest in the company and yet I'm gone... and there's still other people there! So don't get too comfy... and save save save just in case. At the very least you'll have a nice holiday after a while
Well, I say that simply because we are about as lean as we can possibly be as a staff, so I feel pretty confident the only way my job would be lost would be if the thing was sold. Oh, and I got a raise a few weeks ago to.
I hope it doesn't happen and I certainly hope the best for those who are now unemployed.....behind every closed door, there's one waiting to be opened
All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
Well, I say that simply because we are about as lean as we can possibly be as a staff, so I feel pretty confident the only way my job would be lost would be if the thing was sold. Oh, and I got a raise a few weeks ago to.
I hope it doesn't happen and I certainly hope the best for those who are now unemployed.....behind every closed door, there's one waiting to be opened
Oh I agree... it really was a blessing for me. But I know very few people can say the same!
I hope it works out for you
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Nope, I am in the construction industry and it seems that all the big businesses in this country, specifically in MA where I live, are building new buildings to expand. There is no shortage of work in my business so I am grateful for that.
Countless applications and resumes distributed and still can't get a job! :(
chin up eh? These things take a while. Give your resume in everywhere and act like the job's already yours! Just give them a pile of bullshit... and be confident
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
The field I'm in, people can't seem to spend the money fast enough. I've got a 7 year backlog of work coming up with new jobs being added to that monthly. I've really been feeling bad that I just kind of fell into this, and see so many people suffering right now. Many of my friends, and family have lost jobs or can't find new jobs when they're stuck at a dead end point in their current place.
I couldn't be any busier than I already am (I was just put on 84 hours a week until Thanksgiving then I'll have enough money saved up to take the rest of the year off and start a new project sometime in January after my birthday) and it just continues to grow. The company I'm at does reviews every four months now for raises/promotions.
Yet, somehow...they still can't seem to find enough qualified people to join and help give us some relief to finish these jobs whether it be in the office or at job sites.
That's how I got thrown into working both and travelling back and forth now. When I joined 18 months ago, just the office I was in and the project I was on were understaffed by about 15 people. We're now understaffed to about 25-30, and in those 18 months, they've only found ten people to hire and two were already fired. And out here at the job site where I'm currently at...we could use probably about 50 more people.
The field I'm in, people can't seem to spend the money fast enough. I've got a 7 year backlog of work coming up with new jobs being added to that monthly. I've really been feeling bad that I just kind of fell into this, and see so many people suffering right now. Many of my friends, and family have lost jobs or can't find new jobs when they're stuck at a dead end point in their current place.
I couldn't be any busier than I already am (I was just put on 84 hours a week until Thanksgiving then I'll have enough money saved up to take the rest of the year off and start a new project sometime in January after my birthday) and it just continues to grow. The company I'm at does reviews every four months now for raises/promotions.
Yet, somehow...they still can't seem to find enough qualified people to join and help give us some relief to finish these jobs whether it be in the office or at job sites.
That's how I got thrown into working both and travelling back and forth now. When I joined 18 months ago, just the office I was in and the project I was on were understaffed by about 15 people. We're now understaffed to about 25-30, and in those 18 months, they've only found ten people to hire and two were already fired. And out here at the job site where I'm currently at...we could use probably about 50 more people.
It's a shame out there right now.
Just curious, what type of work are you in?
"I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
Anything with power that needs monitoring I do it. I was hired strictly as a designer. But now I'm basically overseeing all my designs at the construction site. I first did system check downs on installation, spec checks on the junction boxes and instruments, and now I'm coordinating the loop check process during the nights from the control room and working the boards.
That's usually a process that four different teams do...instead we've delayed the project now since I'm finishing one, and bounce to the next. I should have been home in September but they never did get around to getting any other teams in. Currently we've got 16,000+ instruments to loop check and we've completed 8200 thus far. We've got 22 techs under me, and we put in an order for 12 more to try and speed this up to get it done by the end of the month, but they could only supply us with 2 guys. That should get us to do about 200-400 a night.
Oh and this job site is a solar grade silicon plant. This place is giant and investing a ton of money into solar energy.
Anything with power that needs monitoring I do it. I was hired strictly as a designer. But now I'm basically overseeing all my designs at the construction site. I first did system check downs on installation, spec checks on the junction boxes and instruments, and now I'm coordinating the loop check process during the nights from the control room and working the boards.
That's usually a process that four different teams do...instead we've delayed the project now since I'm finishing one, and bounce to the next. I should have been home in September but they never did get around to getting any other teams in. Currently we've got 16,000+ instruments to loop check and we've completed 8200 thus far. We've got 22 techs under me, and we put in an order for 12 more to try and speed this up to get it done by the end of the month, but they could only supply us with 2 guys. That should get us to do about 200-400 a night.
Oh and this job site is a solar grade silicon plant. This place is giant and investing a ton of money into solar energy.
Oooooohh! Ur job sounds fun! And I'm NOT kidding!
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
Anything with power that needs monitoring I do it. I was hired strictly as a designer. But now I'm basically overseeing all my designs at the construction site. I first did system check downs on installation, spec checks on the junction boxes and instruments, and now I'm coordinating the loop check process during the nights from the control room and working the boards.
That's usually a process that four different teams do...instead we've delayed the project now since I'm finishing one, and bounce to the next. I should have been home in September but they never did get around to getting any other teams in. Currently we've got 16,000+ instruments to loop check and we've completed 8200 thus far. We've got 22 techs under me, and we put in an order for 12 more to try and speed this up to get it done by the end of the month, but they could only supply us with 2 guys. That should get us to do about 200-400 a night.
Oh and this job site is a solar grade silicon plant. This place is giant and investing a ton of money into solar energy.
Thanks, but I'm still in the dark. lol I love the solar energy aspect, and I think if anyone is interested in a trade to get into this would be it. What is your background and what classes etc. did you take?
"I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
haha, thanks. In certain aspects it is...although hard work, stressful, and when in a crunch, long hours.
When back home at the office, it's peaceful, boring, not much to do except figure things out and draw on a computer. When I'm at home doing design, it's about 35-40 hours in my work week. Up here, looking back...I haven't worked less than 60 since sometime in August. I do go home once a month though for 4 days.
It keeps things interesting, and the travel(if you like to do it, sometimes you get sent to shitty places though) always keeps you on your toes. Nothing is ever the same anyday, so you're not just doing the same ole repetitive thing each day. But out here at the sites, it's pretty cut-throat, and a person can get walked all over if they're not up for it.
haha, thanks. In certain aspects it is...although hard work, stressful, and when in a crunch, long hours.
When back home at the office, it's peaceful, boring, not much to do except figure things out and draw on a computer. When I'm at home doing design, it's about 35-40 hours in my work week. Up here, looking back...I haven't worked less than 60 since sometime in August. I do go home once a month though for 4 days.
It keeps things interesting, and the travel(if you like to do it, sometimes you get sent to shitty places though) always keeps you on your toes. Nothing is ever the same anyday, so you're not just doing the same ole repetitive thing each day. But out here at the sites, it's pretty cut-throat, and a person can get walked all over if they're not up for it.
So are u a CAD pro??? Can I call on u when I'm stumped!??:)
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
Thanks, but I'm still in the dark. lol I love the solar energy aspect, and I think if anyone is interested in a trade to get into this would be it. What is your background and what classes etc. did you take?
Well, to get into it, you definitely need an electrical background. I came in through the labor side, as I can do electrician work, weld, mechanical, etc. With my mechanical and electrical side I was able to get into Control Systems, and with my computer knowledge as far as Cad prgorams I was able to get into design. If I didn't have my labor side I would have never been hired as all my schooling was for Psychology(except for one programming class I took. )
The best way would be to go through and become an electrical engineer if you want an office job, or if you like the labor aspect, you can go and try and join a local union, and take your electrical classes in college to try and become a certified electrician, or join a steamfitters/piping/refrigeration type union who does control systems work.
The majority of my work, if I don't take job site assignments, will mostly be drawing designs on a computer through AutoCAD, Microstation, PDDraw, and making 3D-models of the plants, drawing panel diagrams to scale, making connection diagrams for your wiring, etc. This is what I did on this job from April of 07, until June of 08. Then I moved on up here to the job site in Washington to support construction.
It's all big scale work, whether doing upkeep on refineries to keep them safely producing, or doing grass roots energy projects like the one I'm on with the solar grade plant.
This is just my little area that I do as well...there's still the main power electrical that I can jump into, or the things that I can't jump into like process engineering, the chemical engineering side, mechanical, etc.
So are u a CAD pro??? Can I call on u when I'm stumped!??:)
I can look it up in my autocad for dummies.
I haven't done anything in Autocad for probably a year as far as building anything. I've only done minor changes and edits to my drawings when I got out here. So I've probably maybe used it 10 hours tops the last year.
I've been mostly working in 3D design and Microstation since then. But around July is about the last time I did any design work. That aspect is all done and the only reason I've opened up a program is to just double check a drawing I didn't have handy with me.
So I'm rusty, but I could try to help still.
I won't be doing anymore cad work again until January. And that's a good 2-3 year job, so I better get back into the flow of it quickly again.
We are understaffed and working our bootys off. We are now working 7 days a week. Fun stuff :( I'm actually thankful I'm employed and busy enough that I feel safe.
But I do know one small business owner that is shutting down and house probably going to get foreclosed on. His line of credit was reduced drastically and he doesn't have the cash to run the business.
I haven't done anything in Autocad for probably a year as far as building anything. I've only done minor changes and edits to my drawings when I got out here. So I've probably maybe used it 10 hours tops the last year.
I've been mostly working in 3D design and Microstation since then. But around July is about the last time I did any design work. That aspect is all done and the only reason I've opened up a program is to just double check a drawing I didn't have handy with me.
So I'm rusty, but I could try to help still.
I won't be doing anymore cad work again until January. And that's a good 2-3 year job, so I better get back into the flow of it quickly again.
ahhh AutoCAD for dummies....my Bible;)
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
it' doesn't help that I'm currently not finished the degree:( *it's on hold for a sem. and no one has the money to hire an intern for a few months! damn it!
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
My Mother is in real estate and Father is in contruction, very tough for my Dad to find jobs right now and the luxury apartments my Mom is selling, they're not selling. I work in construction safety, haven't had any change.
it' doesn't help that I'm currently not finished the degree:( *it's on hold for a sem. and no one has the money to hire an intern for a few months! damn it!
Yikes! That's no good. I never even went to school in my field.
So I've already got a lot of enemies within the company I work at. I apparently took a job away from their friends that could have used it when they were graduating. Ugh...they need to get over that. And now they're made because I've "moved above them, and must be kissing ass because I'm offered traveling jobs and got promotions before them, but they have the knowledge and degree! I don't know shit!"
But that only came because of...my real world experience...which they don't understand. If you have field experience, they'll hire you right away before the years set of college kids coming out. It's just so hard to get field experience, and most of them that do work the field never leave it to learn drafting/designing, or like their job enough to not leave the labor position. So they rarely get applicants from field experienced people. They just won't get that through their thick skulls. :rolleyes:
Oh well, what can ya do? I'll be going back to school in January at nights though to continue on my psychology class work. I'm excited. Good luck on finding an intern spot and finish your degree.
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They sell vets wholesale? Can I get one at Costco?
thats exactly what i just said... what the govt has just announced ISNT protection... it just means there might be more offer of financial support in the form of loans and overdrafts..
i think we're agreeing on the same thing but just in a different way
veterinary is different from veterinarian.. nice joke though
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I hope it doesn't happen and I certainly hope the best for those who are now unemployed.....behind every closed door, there's one waiting to be opened
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
I hope it works out for you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I couldn't be any busier than I already am (I was just put on 84 hours a week until Thanksgiving then I'll have enough money saved up to take the rest of the year off and start a new project sometime in January after my birthday) and it just continues to grow. The company I'm at does reviews every four months now for raises/promotions.
Yet, somehow...they still can't seem to find enough qualified people to join and help give us some relief to finish these jobs whether it be in the office or at job sites.
That's how I got thrown into working both and travelling back and forth now. When I joined 18 months ago, just the office I was in and the project I was on were understaffed by about 15 people. We're now understaffed to about 25-30, and in those 18 months, they've only found ten people to hire and two were already fired. And out here at the job site where I'm currently at...we could use probably about 50 more people.
It's a shame out there right now.
Control systems and electrical design.
Anything with power that needs monitoring I do it. I was hired strictly as a designer. But now I'm basically overseeing all my designs at the construction site. I first did system check downs on installation, spec checks on the junction boxes and instruments, and now I'm coordinating the loop check process during the nights from the control room and working the boards.
That's usually a process that four different teams do...instead we've delayed the project now since I'm finishing one, and bounce to the next. I should have been home in September but they never did get around to getting any other teams in. Currently we've got 16,000+ instruments to loop check and we've completed 8200 thus far. We've got 22 techs under me, and we put in an order for 12 more to try and speed this up to get it done by the end of the month, but they could only supply us with 2 guys. That should get us to do about 200-400 a night.
Oh and this job site is a solar grade silicon plant. This place is giant and investing a ton of money into solar energy.
haha, thanks. In certain aspects it is...although hard work, stressful, and when in a crunch, long hours.
When back home at the office, it's peaceful, boring, not much to do except figure things out and draw on a computer. When I'm at home doing design, it's about 35-40 hours in my work week. Up here, looking back...I haven't worked less than 60 since sometime in August. I do go home once a month though for 4 days.
It keeps things interesting, and the travel(if you like to do it, sometimes you get sent to shitty places though) always keeps you on your toes. Nothing is ever the same anyday, so you're not just doing the same ole repetitive thing each day. But out here at the sites, it's pretty cut-throat, and a person can get walked all over if they're not up for it.
Well, to get into it, you definitely need an electrical background. I came in through the labor side, as I can do electrician work, weld, mechanical, etc. With my mechanical and electrical side I was able to get into Control Systems, and with my computer knowledge as far as Cad prgorams I was able to get into design. If I didn't have my labor side I would have never been hired as all my schooling was for Psychology(except for one programming class I took.
The best way would be to go through and become an electrical engineer if you want an office job, or if you like the labor aspect, you can go and try and join a local union, and take your electrical classes in college to try and become a certified electrician, or join a steamfitters/piping/refrigeration type union who does control systems work.
The majority of my work, if I don't take job site assignments, will mostly be drawing designs on a computer through AutoCAD, Microstation, PDDraw, and making 3D-models of the plants, drawing panel diagrams to scale, making connection diagrams for your wiring, etc. This is what I did on this job from April of 07, until June of 08. Then I moved on up here to the job site in Washington to support construction.
It's all big scale work, whether doing upkeep on refineries to keep them safely producing, or doing grass roots energy projects like the one I'm on with the solar grade plant.
This is just my little area that I do as well...there's still the main power electrical that I can jump into, or the things that I can't jump into like process engineering, the chemical engineering side, mechanical, etc.
I can look it up in my autocad for dummies.
I haven't done anything in Autocad for probably a year as far as building anything. I've only done minor changes and edits to my drawings when I got out here. So I've probably maybe used it 10 hours tops the last year.
I've been mostly working in 3D design and Microstation since then. But around July is about the last time I did any design work. That aspect is all done and the only reason I've opened up a program is to just double check a drawing I didn't have handy with me.
So I'm rusty, but I could try to help still.
I won't be doing anymore cad work again until January. And that's a good 2-3 year job, so I better get back into the flow of it quickly again.
But I do know one small business owner that is shutting down and house probably going to get foreclosed on. His line of credit was reduced drastically and he doesn't have the cash to run the business.
hehe it's a gift! And so much cheaper than any other CAD book out there.
What do you draw if you don't mind me asking?
*to make it relevant to the thread, it's a bitch to find a job in the field now cause it basically shuts down on my end in a recession:(
I'm sorry to hear that. :(
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Yikes! That's no good. I never even went to school in my field.
So I've already got a lot of enemies within the company I work at. I apparently took a job away from their friends that could have used it when they were graduating. Ugh...they need to get over that. And now they're made because I've "moved above them, and must be kissing ass because I'm offered traveling jobs and got promotions before them, but they have the knowledge and degree! I don't know shit!"
But that only came because of...my real world experience...which they don't understand. If you have field experience, they'll hire you right away before the years set of college kids coming out. It's just so hard to get field experience, and most of them that do work the field never leave it to learn drafting/designing, or like their job enough to not leave the labor position. So they rarely get applicants from field experienced people. They just won't get that through their thick skulls. :rolleyes:
Oh well, what can ya do? I'll be going back to school in January at nights though to continue on my psychology class work. I'm excited. Good luck on finding an intern spot and finish your degree.