I love video games, but this is just......I don't know

in_hiding79

PearlJamaholic wrote:

serious? its a stupid building! who cares that aliens are attacking it. its like those tower became some sacred thing. that firefighter dude said it himself, "Aliens are not going to attack the World Trade Center. That makes no sense at all," doesnt stop him from crying about it. your brother died and its sad, but this is a game, maybe you need to see a therapist if this is such a big deal.

I don't think the World trade center were stupid buildings..:o

prytocorduroy

But it's okay to make realistic war video games though right? I don't get it. Why are people offended? Because the tragedy happened to the US and not someplace else?

PearlJamaholic

since some people think im being insensitive because of 'stupid buildings' how many people bought any of those medal of honor or any other ww2 video games. how many people died on d-day....but thats ok cause why, cause its sold at wal-mart? yet aliens attacking a building is offensive? what about gta and the related gang violence? tons of people are killed by gang related violence every year, but gta is ok too?

if this game had people jumping out of the burning towers and you had to zap them with your ufo lasers before they hit the sidewalk, id say thats probably being insensitive.

that composer that call 9-11 a work off art has to be border-line insane, if thats the case than hitler made a peice of art greater than anything van gogh painted.

in_hiding79

PearlJamaholic wrote:

since some people think im being insensitive because of 'stupid buildings' how many people bought any of those medal of honor or any other ww2 video games. how many people died on d-day....but thats ok cause why, cause its sold at wal-mart? yet aliens attacking a building is offensive? what about gta and the related gang violence? tons of people are killed by gang related violence every year, but gta is ok too?

if this game had people jumping out of the burning towers and you had to zap them with your ufo lasers before they hit the sidewalk, id say thats probably being insensitive.

that composer that call 9-11 a work off art has to be border-line insane, if thats the case than hitler made a peice of art greater than anything van gogh painted.

I know you were not speaking too me in general, but I don't buy ANYTHING at walmart! Secondly, I don't think the WTC buildings were stupid, but I probably will play the game if someone brought it over! I will play any video game..:)

SoonForgotten2

I think this game is really insensitive and is an insult to the victims of the alien attack on the WTC and their families.

dunkman

PearlJamaholic wrote:

that composer that call 9-11 a work off art has to be border-line insane, if thats the case than hitler made a peice of art greater than anything van gogh painted.

Lars Ulrich tried to buy Hiroshima

Jeremy1012

dunkman wrote:

Lars Ulrich tried to buy Hiroshima

I can actually believe that.

In fact, Lars Ulrich is actually worse than atomic warfare.

PearlJamaholic

dunkman wrote:

Lars Ulrich tried to buy Hiroshima

didnt he have enough money cause everyone was downloading their songs for free?

mole1985

danny72688 wrote:

But it's okay to make realistic war video games though right? I don't get it. Why are people offended? Because the tragedy happened to the US and not someplace else?

Nobody here was in WW2 but some people were at or were deeply effected by what happened at the TWTC. There's a big difference. Personally i just think it was stupid to have aliens attack TWTC, should have been at the White House

prytocorduroy

mole1985 wrote:

Nobody here was in WW2 but some people were at or were deeply effected by what happened at the TWTC. There's a big difference. Personally i just think it was stupid to have aliens attack TWTC, should have been at the White House

I was refering to modern games such as Call of Duty and Medal of Honor which very much are part of our lives. Better yet, some of them make history fun!


The Aliens v. WTC idea is retarded, but it's also retarded to be offended by it and not any of the above mentioned.

Jeremy1012

mole1985 wrote:

Nobody here was in WW2 but some people were at or were deeply effected by what happened at the TWTC. There's a big difference. Personally i just think it was stupid to have aliens attack TWTC, should have been at the White House

So when will it be ok to make games about 9/11? When most of those involved are dead? We won't be tainting memories then?

This is the thing. How do you decide what is exceptable in an atmosphere with so much grey area?

Black Diamond

Jeremy1012 wrote:

So when will it be ok to make games about 9/11? When most of those involved are dead? We won't be tainting memories then?

This is the thing. How do you decide what is exceptable in an atmosphere with so much grey area?

For those that were involved I think about the same time as a video game about Darfur is acceptable.

I think some of you have a point. I would never associate WTC to Americana and our push for the war in Iraq. Toby Kieth makes me ill. But to expect people who were directly affected by 9/11 to not be vocal on the issue is extremely naive. What did you expect the brother of someone who died on 9/11 to say, I forgot what that felt like or hey it's the past let bygones be bygones.

I'll never have an issue on people debating the political, economic and societal causes of 9/11 but to not call it anything but sheer tragedy to the families and victims involved is heartless.

I was in the building in 93 and 01 and I will never forget what I saw. Trust me, I would love to.
Video games and 24 hour news have done a damaging toll on our society in regards to desensitizing it to tragedy and personal loss. Maybe Chris McCandless (sp?) got it right by walking away from society and try to see the real world instead of the Real World on MTV.

jammergirl

i wasn't going to comment on this, but i just want to bring up a point. to the people that say the ww2 games are the same, you are playing the game from the point of view of the soldiers. (i think, i'm not a big gamer!) soldiers are trained to kill. that is their job. they know that signing up for that job is the very real possibility that they will die. 9-11 was mass murder, plain and simple. those were civilians minding their own business. again, i don't know if this is even going to add anything relevant to the discussion, i just thought it was an interesting distinction that completely changes the tone for a video game. carry on...

Black Diamond

jammergirl wrote:

i wasn't going to comment on this, but i just want to bring up a point. to the people that say the ww2 games are the same, you are playing the game from the point of view of the soldiers. (i think, i'm not a big gamer!) soldiers are trained to kill. that is their job. they know that signing up for that job is the very real possibility that they will die. 9-11 was mass murder, plain and simple. those were civilians minding their own business. again, i don't know if this is even going to add anything relevant to the discussion, i just thought it was an interesting distinction that completely changes the tone for a video game. carry on...

It was very relevant and thank you for the imput.

prytocorduroy

jammergirl wrote:

i wasn't going to comment on this, but i just want to bring up a point. to the people that say the ww2 games are the same, you are playing the game from the point of view of the soldiers. (i think, i'm not a big gamer!) soldiers are trained to kill. that is their job. they know that signing up for that job is the very real possibility that they will die. 9-11 was mass murder, plain and simple. those were civilians minding their own business. again, i don't know if this is even going to add anything relevant to the discussion, i just thought it was an interesting distinction that completely changes the tone for a video game. carry on...

You brushed on my point. WWII and other war games are in the perspective of the soldier. Soldiers kill. That apparently is okay. Now, when you flip the roles, with specifically America being the victims/targets rather than foreigners, it's in poor taste.

But the outcry on this topic isn't about violence and killing. It's about 9/11. Those same people couldn't care less about these other video games that are more realistic and perhaps just as offensive to our soldiers fighting in real life.

I think if you are going to be offended about a video game like this, you should take offense to all video games of the like.

Danimal

in_hiding79 wrote:

The graphics look totally like old school Atari!!

Wicked bad!!! Look like Space Invaders on building!!

stickboy

Black Diamond wrote:

For those that were involved I think about the same time as a video game about Darfur is acceptable.

I think some of you have a point. I would never associate WTC to Americana and our push for the war in Iraq. Toby Kieth makes me ill. But to expect people who were directly affected by 9/11 to not be vocal on the issue is extremely naive. What did you expect the brother of someone who died on 9/11 to say, I forgot what that felt like or hey it's the past let bygones be bygones.

I'll never have an issue on people debating the political, economic and societal causes of 9/11 but to not call it anything but sheer tragedy to the families and victims involved is heartless.

I was in the building in 93 and 01 and I will never forget what I saw. Trust me, I would love to.
Video games and 24 hour news have done a damaging toll on our society in regards to desensitizing it to tragedy and personal loss. Maybe Chris McCandless (sp?) got it right by walking away from society and try to see the real world instead of the Real World on MTV.

Thats why Chris' story has pushed me to do what I'm about to do


and like it was said b4
its the fucking American way...make a buck off of tragedy and surrrree.its the past, yea forget all about it. We got the "FREEDOM" tower coming up now...Please :rolleyes:
I have every right to bash this game and think its disgusting!
and yes before anyone questions it, I was also affected and had a bad experience from the WTC attacks...Guess many of the ones who talked the shit here werent close enough or covered in ashes that day
fuck outta here

PearlJamaholic

this is more a joke than anything but it has some of how i feel about aliens too. how do you know aliens arent meant to kill or for that matter that we are nothing more than bugs to them. so them shooting a building is nothing more than us stomping an ant hill.

i get the killing other soilders point, but not everyone in ww2 was there cause they wanted to be. so running around killing nazis soliders can be grey. my uncle was forced to join the nazi army, they sent him to africa and the whole lot of them surrendered as soon as they could. so does making a game where you run around and shoot these people in head ok? not every nazi turned on the ovens or experimented on human test subjects.

and to the point the alien game doesnt seem to be making fun of the deaths of people. its them attacking a building, just a building. no humans are shown from what i see.

maybe this is a non-american veiw point, but the wtc can be a symbol of what is wrong with america too. the big business, money making machine. before 9-11, what was wtc known for??? why was it even a target??? not because it would kill the most americas, there are easier ways to get a larger death toll.

it was a symbol, and im sure aliens dont care about our symbols. how many movies have ufos blowing up the white house or pyramids?

and i must say as a work of 'art' this piece succeds, we are all discussing it and its importance on our society.

in_hiding79

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

I think this game is really insensitive and is an insult to the victims of the alien attack on the WTC and their families.

I knew it!!!!!

LONGRD

danny72688 wrote:

But it's okay to make realistic war video games though right? I don't get it. Why are people offended? Because the tragedy happened to the US and not someplace else?

Some of the victims were not Americans, so many other nations lost their citizens as well. It was called a World Trade Center for a reason.