Vick gets 23 months
vitodacat
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Seems a little steep to me.
Sentencing guideline was 12-18 months, 1st time offender and takes a plea deal, and gets more then the guideline ??
Sentencing guideline was 12-18 months, 1st time offender and takes a plea deal, and gets more then the guideline ??
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wonder how long till he violates his probation....
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thought he would get a longer sentencing than that...
But this sentence for all intensive purposes ends his American football career. Counting this year and you figure a year and a half of jail time when all is said and done and probably an additional year of being suspended by the NFL, the odds of him returning to the NFL after a 4 year break are next to none.
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Plus he failed a drug test before a court date. I'm sure the judge did not forget that. I mean the guy knew it was coming but still felt he had to blaze one down.
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Exactly...he should have been sentenced much longer. Asshole..
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despite his early denials, he has taken responsibility for his actions and admitted the wrong doing
two year sentence for vick but Tank and Pacman are free (this troubles me)
Since he already started serving time, i think there is a chance he will be back in the NFL next year
Early opinion is 2010. tune into sports center tonight though i'm sure they'll be talking about it 24/7
Michael Vick was sentenced to 23 months in federal prison Monday for financing a dogfighting ring. He also received three years of probation.
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Worst-case scenario. That length is a big surprise; five months higher than the recommended maximum of the prosecutor in Vick's case. Since Vick has already served one month, he can be expected to leave prison in October of 2009. Federal sentences are rarely shortened. If Vick was readmitted into the NFL, what Chris Mortensen believes would happen without any additional penalty, Vick couldn't play until 2010. He would be thirty years old then. Dec. 10 - 10:48 am et
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On the flip side for my wedding we are offering filet mignon, which, in India would get us arrested and treated like critical offenders like Vick, whereas Vick's dog fight would have been treated like nothing out of the ordinary. The interesting this to me is that no journalist has even contemplated writing a story thinking through the issue at hand like this...probably because the meat industry would stop advertising in their papers.
Have you seen the videos of those dog fights. Yes people in this country are
upset b/c it was dogs but most people would be upset to see any animals treated that way. I don't think the sentence was harsh enough.
no, not really. He never did fully come clean and lied to the court, then he failed a drug test. 85% of the sentence means 19 and a half months. Then 3 years probation.
The recommendation was changed to 18-24 after he failed the lie detector test.
He made a lot of this a lot harder on himself than he had too. I loved watching him play for the last 6 years... I was as big a supporter as you could get for his play on the field... but he's just not earned any shred of trust. I don't doubt he's not a jerk to most people he's a likeable guy... but this is a lifestyle he never should have been involved in and he's at best a habitual screw up with terrible judgement. He'll get out and maybe play in 2009 or 2010 but he's got to reform himself.
Really sad.
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
yes it is.. the guidelines are just that, guidelines. It is up to the judge's discretion to dole out the sentence he seems fit. And after Vick's failed drug test after his plea, I can see why the judge would and should up the punishment.
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No, it is not common practice. If the prosecution reccomends life, the judge/jury rarely hands down a death sentence.
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
well if the prosecution recommended life, I would hope that the judge/jury didn't hand down the death sentence since they are two completely different things. It is practice for judges and juries to make informed decisions using sentencing guidelines. Some judges take the low end of the guideline and start up from there, others start from the middle and work up or down. This judge subscribes to the latter policy and Vick's sentence is indicative of that.
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You have no idea what you are talking about and it is quite obvious. This agument can no longer contribute anything of interest to the forum.
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
EXACTLY
This was hilarious, coming from someone named vitodacat
I have seen it and i feel the same way about the way those animals are treated. I just think he's getting off a little easy b/c who he is. He's not exactley a saint who made a misstake and he doesn't seem to
care either.
As part of his plea agreement Michael waived his right to appeal the sentence. When he entered his plea the judge reminded him that not only did he give up his right to appeal but also that the judge was not bound to follow the government's recommendation regarding sentencing.
Two things operated against Michael at the sentencing. The first is that as part of his plea agreement he was required to cooperate with the government. We now know that even though his public statement suggested he was accepting responsibility for his conduct, in his dealings with the federal government, he continued to deny his involvement in killing dogs. It was not until he had an unfavorable result on a lie detector that Michael actually came clean and acknowledged participating in and killing dogs. The other factor that worked against him was there were certain conditions on his release when he was arraigned. One of them was not to use illegal substances. He ultimately tested positive for marijuana. The judge actually looked at the federal guidelines for sentencing and gave Michael two points that took the sentencing range from 12-18 months to 18-24 months.
In the federal prison system a prisoner typically serves 85 percent of the sentence if there are no complicating factors while he is actually incarcerated. So Michael should serve 15-20 months.
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