Like me!
The only thing he meant to me was a terrible overrated actor in terrible movies and a gun-nut who was a complete ass politically.
I say Good Riddance!
Geez. He marched with Martin Luther King Jr.. Does that give him a few brownie cookies?
Like me!
The only thing he meant to me was a terrible overrated actor in terrible movies and a gun-nut who was a complete ass politically.
I say Good Riddance!
Thank you! i agree! I thought I was the only one who thought that...
Like C Heston really needs us to give a fuck and say Rip . the guy was a famous actor and a political jackass...
all im saying is many people may have looked at charlton heston....
husband of 64 years and father of 2 as a decent person.....
and people coming on this board to "celebrate" this mans death....
may be looked upon as somewhat sick....
and i never said YOU were celebrating his death......but others in this thread are.....
Yeah, I agree with you. I don't feel right with out and out judging someone the minute they pass away, personally. I do think it's tacky to say something like 'good riddance' or 'rot in hell'. At least wait a few days or weeks before reflecting and evaluating a persons' life.
That said, what IS the proper length of time before you can criticize or judge the deceased? I remember when Reagan died, many people were quick to call out his faults, right or wrong those judgements may have been. My question is, what determines whether it is right or wrong and when can you criticize?
If a serial child rapist/murderer dies, can we say good riddance that very moment? But he donated to charities and was good with animals, so some people may think he was a good person! If Oprah or Bono or some other (arguably) highly charitable person dies, when is it ok to point out THEIR faults? Weeks, months, never? Back to Reagan. Some people say he brought pride to our country, ended Communism and was a good husband. Yet others would say he screwed over the air traffic controllers, pandered to religious extremists, funded terrorists and backed civilian-killing death squads. If you viewed him as the latter, wouldn't that be on par (if not worse) than a rapist/murderer? Then when would it be ok to judge a man like that? How about a Hitler or Pinochet or Suharto, etc etc? Would you ever say good riddance the minute any of them died? But some were good with animals and family and good artists, etc etc. SOME people may look at them as good people. Eye of the beholder I suppose.
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
Geez. He marched with Martin Luther King Jr.. Does that give him a few brownie cookies?
Yeah, I was quite impressed with some of the stuff I've read about him. A real activist in his younger 'Ape' days. Marched with King, a proponent for race equality long before Hollywood accepted it, an advocate for gun control (go figure) and a real progressive in many issues. A great man. Then, for some reason, he flipped when Reagan came into office. The more he aged, the more of an angry old conservative he became. Kind of odd the polarizing change he made.
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
Yeah, I agree with you. I don't feel right with out and out judging someone the minute they pass away, personally. I do think it's tacky to say something like 'good riddance' or 'rot in hell'. At least wait a few days or weeks before reflecting and evaluating a persons' life.
That said, what IS the proper length of time before you can criticize or judge the deceased? I remember when Reagan died, many people were quick to call out his faults, right or wrong those judgements may have been. My question is, what determines whether it is right or wrong and when can you criticize?
If a serial child rapist/murderer dies, can we say good riddance that very moment? But he donated to charities and was good with animals, so some people may think he was a good person! If Oprah or Bono or some other (arguably) highly charitable person dies, when is it ok to point out THEIR faults? Weeks, months, never? Back to Reagan. Some people say he brought pride to our country, ended Communism and was a good husband. Yet others would say he screwed over the air traffic controllers, pandered to religious extremists, funded terrorists and backed civilian-killing death squads. If you viewed him as the latter, wouldn't that be on par (if not worse) than a rapist/murderer? Then when would it be ok to judge a man like that? How about a Hitler or Pinochet or Suharto, etc etc? Would you ever say good riddance the minute any of them died? But some were good with animals and family and good artists, etc etc. SOME people may look at them as good people. Eye of the beholder I suppose.
actually when it comes to child murderers...according to this board...
we are supposed to send them money and hope and prey the are released from prison....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
actually when it comes to child murderers...according to this board...
we are supposed to send them money and hope and prey the are released from prison....
Who's that?
But seriously, I'm interested in your (and others') opinions on what I said. What is your take? Is it ever ok to judge someone? Are there different degrees of who we can judge and when? Who determines that?
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
But seriously, I'm interested in your (and others') opinions on what I said. What is your take? Is it ever ok to judge someone? Are there different degrees of who we can judge and when? Who determines that?
wm3 child murderers.....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Yes, per of OUR American Constitution, every American Citizen has the right to bear arms. Everyone can own a firearm. No, no one should have weapons grade plutonium, as Michael Moore pointed out. But you want to own a pistol or a shotgun, go for it. Follow the steps involved to own one legally, and have at it. Shooting guns in a safe environment is a good god damn time. Own a weapon for sport hunting or personal protection.
Mr. Heston didn't write or draft the second amendment to the Constitution. I don't think you can fault a guy for trying the best way he knew how to uphold the Constitution. I don't agree with every stance he took, but I certainly didn't wish him to be murdered. I recognized that he himself wasn't a murderer.
I don't want to debate the constitution with you, but the people who did write it, didn't think of guns as we think of them today. And our right to bear arms meant the right to form a militia to protect our government, that is my belief and you will not change it! The constitution is like the bible, anyone who reads it, can find what they want. That is why we have courts.
On your other point, who the hell was talking about murdering Heston? I sure was not!
I don't want to debate the constitution with you, but the people who did write it, didn't think of guns as we think of them today. And our right to bear arms meant the right to form a militia to protect our government, that is my belief and you will not change it! The constitution is like the bible, anyone who reads it, can find what they want. That is why we have courts.
On your other point, who the hell was talking about murdering Heston? I sure was not!
umm read the declaration of independence and then look at the rights to bear arms. its not about protecting our government its about protecting ourselves from the government if need be. almost all the bill of rights are restrictions on the government, not freedoms that people have. so forget hunting or keeping thieves out of your house. if those crazy nra guys actually read these papers they would find they are as wrong as the crazy liberals.
keep america free, for the people. thats all it says.
I don't want to debate the constitution with you, but the people who did write it, didn't think of guns as we think of them today. And our right to bear arms meant the right to form a militia to protect our government, that is my belief and you will not change it! The constitution is like the bible, anyone who reads it, can find what they want. That is why we have courts.
On your other point, who the hell was talking about murdering Heston? I sure was not!
I thought your right to bear arms was to protect yourselves from your government? However, my cold dead hands comment was neutral and in reference to his famous statement. And please also remember, some Canadians who post on this board do not believe in the lax gun control (I use the term loosely) laws of the US and Canada.
I don't think it is possible for me to care less whether Charleton Heston lived or died. Would it have been poetic justice if he'd been shot? Absolutely... maybe even ironic...
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Apparently not, Not that some of these people give a shit. They are all about the hate!
Thank you! i agree! I thought I was the only one who thought that...
Like C Heston really needs us to give a fuck and say Rip . the guy was a famous actor and a political jackass...
Peace out John Carter! LOLOL
Yeah, I agree with you. I don't feel right with out and out judging someone the minute they pass away, personally. I do think it's tacky to say something like 'good riddance' or 'rot in hell'. At least wait a few days or weeks before reflecting and evaluating a persons' life.
That said, what IS the proper length of time before you can criticize or judge the deceased? I remember when Reagan died, many people were quick to call out his faults, right or wrong those judgements may have been. My question is, what determines whether it is right or wrong and when can you criticize?
If a serial child rapist/murderer dies, can we say good riddance that very moment? But he donated to charities and was good with animals, so some people may think he was a good person! If Oprah or Bono or some other (arguably) highly charitable person dies, when is it ok to point out THEIR faults? Weeks, months, never? Back to Reagan. Some people say he brought pride to our country, ended Communism and was a good husband. Yet others would say he screwed over the air traffic controllers, pandered to religious extremists, funded terrorists and backed civilian-killing death squads. If you viewed him as the latter, wouldn't that be on par (if not worse) than a rapist/murderer? Then when would it be ok to judge a man like that? How about a Hitler or Pinochet or Suharto, etc etc? Would you ever say good riddance the minute any of them died? But some were good with animals and family and good artists, etc etc. SOME people may look at them as good people. Eye of the beholder I suppose.
nowadays hits you when you're young
Yeah, I was quite impressed with some of the stuff I've read about him. A real activist in his younger 'Ape' days. Marched with King, a proponent for race equality long before Hollywood accepted it, an advocate for gun control (go figure) and a real progressive in many issues. A great man. Then, for some reason, he flipped when Reagan came into office. The more he aged, the more of an angry old conservative he became. Kind of odd the polarizing change he made.
nowadays hits you when you're young
we are supposed to send them money and hope and prey the are released from prison....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Who's that?
But seriously, I'm interested in your (and others') opinions on what I said. What is your take? Is it ever ok to judge someone? Are there different degrees of who we can judge and when? Who determines that?
nowadays hits you when you're young
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-hestoncolddeadhands.htm
I don't want to debate the constitution with you, but the people who did write it, didn't think of guns as we think of them today. And our right to bear arms meant the right to form a militia to protect our government, that is my belief and you will not change it! The constitution is like the bible, anyone who reads it, can find what they want. That is why we have courts.
On your other point, who the hell was talking about murdering Heston? I sure was not!
umm read the declaration of independence and then look at the rights to bear arms. its not about protecting our government its about protecting ourselves from the government if need be. almost all the bill of rights are restrictions on the government, not freedoms that people have. so forget hunting or keeping thieves out of your house. if those crazy nra guys actually read these papers they would find they are as wrong as the crazy liberals.
keep america free, for the people. thats all it says.
I thought your right to bear arms was to protect yourselves from your government? However, my cold dead hands comment was neutral and in reference to his famous statement. And please also remember, some Canadians who post on this board do not believe in the lax gun control (I use the term loosely) laws of the US and Canada.
I don't think it is possible for me to care less whether Charleton Heston lived or died. Would it have been poetic justice if he'd been shot? Absolutely... maybe even ironic...