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So what's the difference between "emo" and "goth"

gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
edited February 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
Because it all pretty much looks the same to me. I also realize as I'm 17 years out of high school now I'm no longer "with it", so excuse my possible ignorance. What is the difference between the two? I was in Upland, CA during the holidays and noticed about half the kids in the local Target were wearing tight jeans, mostly black clothes, and had the dyed hair hanging in the eyes oh so seductively. Is it more of an image than an actual music style, or is it both, like with goth?
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  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    emo is the gay version of goth which is the gay version of punk.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    The way I see it, Emo is to Goth what Glam Rock is to Rock. Took the same basic premise and gave it a fashionable style and exaggerated the most defining features in a kind of tongue in cheek way.
    Paul
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    long red wrote:
    emo is the gay version of goth which is the gay version of punk.

    haha
  • chinobaezachinobaeza Posts: 2,489
    long red wrote:
    emo is the gay version of goth which is the gay version of punk.
    LOL.....
    and emos listen My Chemical Romance
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    goth is hot
    emo is not

    goth people poop bats
    emo people poop bats with white stripes on them
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    ugh, i think emos are whiny mummy's boys/girls with no actual problems, and with a very shitty taste in music. emo music is awful.

    goths are people who like darkness, who are creative and truly troubled. who haven't fitted in with "normal" kids at the time of growing up
  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    genie wrote:
    ugh, i think emo's are whiny mummy's boys/girls with no actual problems, and with a very shitty taste in music. emo music is awful.

    goths are people who like darkness, who are creative and truly troubled. who haven't fitted in with "normal" kids at the time of growing up
    Those 2 statements are totally interchangable.
    Paul
    '06 - London, Dublin, Reading
    '07 - Katowice, Wembley, Dusseldorf, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    '09 - London, Manchester, London
    '12 - Manchester, Manchester, Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    gabers wrote:
    Because it all pretty much looks the same to me. I also realize as I'm 17 years out of high school now I'm no longer "with it", so excuse my possible ignorance. What is the difference between the two? I was in Upland, CA during the holidays and noticed about half the kids in the local Target were wearing tight jeans, mostly black clothes, and had the dyed hair hanging in the eyes oh so seductively. Is it more of an image than an actual music style, or is it both, like with goth?
    This is an emo kid. Note the carefully tailored "misfit" look which really makes them as much a sheep as anyone else http://www.fashionshanty.com/images/emo/girls-emo-haircut.jpg

    Goths, originally anyway, are generally more of a deviant subculture than a lame attempt to marry androgyny with mainstream pop-rock good charlotte-esque style sensibilities. As ridiculous as a lot of goth imagery is, emo (as it is now, it used to refer to a type of punk music in the 80s and early 90s which is far different from the music that is called emo now) is like a watered down, teen-friendly version.

    Personally, I don't care what people look like. it essentially means nothing. I am 19 and therefore have friends and acquaintances that fit into both catagories and many others that fit into neither, like myself. Either way, it doesn't matter much.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    fowls wrote:
    Those 2 statements are totally interchangable.

    maybe.....but goths are much more darker people inside and they have a lot of weird thoughts going through their head than your stylish emo....who probably spends more time making sure his/her hair looks just perfect ;)

    still my respect goes out to goths. and i don't really like to see them be compared to emos
  • answers are fatalanswers are fatal Posts: 281
    emo kids are depressed, they dress in tight clothing, sit in dark corners, and cut themselves while listening to crappy music.
    while goths just try to portray an image of being into hardcore music and they try too hard to look gothic.

    trust me on this- im still in high school i talk/see these people everyday.
    its funny how they try to make there school uniforms look "gothic"
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    answers are fatal wrote:
    emo kids are depressed, they dress in tight clothing, sit in dark corners, and cut themselves while listening to crappy music.
    while goths just try to portray an image of being into hardcore music and they try too hard to look gothic.

    trust me on this- im still in high school i talk/see these people everyday.
    its funny how they try to make there school uniforms look "gothic"

    shoot me i've done it again, read my statement below
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    answers are fatal wrote:
    emo kids are depressed, they dress in tight clothing, sit in dark corners, and cut themselves while listening to crappy music.
    while goths just try to portray an image of being into hardcore music and they try too hard to look gothic.

    trust me on this- im still in high school i talk/see these people everyday.
    its funny how they try to make there school uniforms look "gothic"

    try to portray an image of being into hardcore music?? what do you define as hardcore, if you talking about metal then you're wrong

    hehe, try too hard to look gothic? - this sentence looks like a nonsense to me.
  • pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    To me, emo now is basically pop punk, it basically has nothing to do with the music that was originally called emo. Emo now is whiny, pretentious, pop punk. I really dont know the difference between goth and what was originally called emo music.
    Alpine Valley 2000
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yUSISmK9AWk


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  • answers are fatalanswers are fatal Posts: 281
    genie wrote:
    try to portray an image of being into hardcore music?? what do you define as hardcore, if you talking about metal then you're wrong

    hehe, try too hard to look gothic? - this sentence looks like a nonsense to me.

    haha nahh deffinatly NOT metal. and goths deffinaition of hardcore music isnt the same as mine, i was just saying what i see and hear everyday.
  • DaytimeDilemmaDaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    Yeah, emo is more about being sad and listening to shitty screamo bands or dashboard or that bullshit.


    Goth is darker with evil undertones. They generally are more openminded to metal and suchm, but not by much.
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    To me, emo now is basically pop punk, it basically has nothing to do with the music that was originally called emo. Emo now is whiny, pretentious, pop punk. I really dont know the difference between goth and what was originally called emo music.

    if you don't hear difference between goth and emo music, just say so. i with pleasure show you difference between two genres and i'm not even a goth!
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    DaytimeDilemma wrote:
    Yeah, emo is more about being sad and listening to shitty screamo bands or dashboard or that bullshit.


    Goth is darker with evil undertones. They generally are more openminded to metal and suchm, but not by much.

    yep, you have a point here. I think "screamo" describes their music well.

    goths don't like to be judged and are open minded ( that's what they say ) but in actual honesty they are just as narrow minded.
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    The goth kids I knew in high school were into bands like NIN, Siouxie and the Banshees and The Cure, which I actually liked too (and I didn't even dress in all black to prove it - the nerve!). I guess maybe there were goth sub-divisions, the ones into death metal and then the ones into the Cure. Maybe those are the ones that kind of evolved (devolved?) into emo. That's my take anyway.
  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs8/300W/i/2005/324/b/f/Emo_Emu_by_sootysueandsweep.jpg
  • DaytimeDilemmaDaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    [size=+2]I WISH MY GRASS WAS EMO SO IT WOULD CUT ITSELF.[/size]

















































































    Word.
  • pjoasisrulepjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    genie wrote:
    if you don't hear difference between goth and emo music, just say so. i with pleasure show you difference between two genres and i'm not even a goth!

    A band like The Cure, what would you consider them? Yes, I know they are about as popular of an example as there could be.
    Alpine Valley 2000
    Summerfest 2006

    "Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    A band like The Cure, what would you consider them? Yes, I know they are about as popular of an example as there could be.

    yep it's goth
  • chinobaezachinobaeza Posts: 2,489
    genie wrote:
    yep it's goth
    and Placebo?...

    (great band btw)
  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    Cradle Of Filth is goth.
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    chinobaeza wrote:
    and Placebo?...

    (great band btw)

    erm...i think so, they fit well into category, but i can't say for sure, i'm not a proper goth :p
  • Drop The Leash 10Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    answers are fatal wrote:
    emo kids are depressed, they dress in tight clothing, sit in dark corners, and cut themselves while listening to crappy music.
    while goths just try to portray an image of being into hardcore music and they try too hard to look gothic.

    trust me on this- im still in high school i talk/see these people everyday.
    its funny how they try to make there school uniforms look "gothic"
    this is most correct. try my highschool where there are no uniforms and they dress how they want.:eek: kinda creepy
    I will be what i could be
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    this is a great goth song imo

    Echo & The Bunnymen - The Killing Moon

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1PwkgwsG0
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    this is most correct. try my highschool where there are no uniforms and they dress how they want.:eek: kinda creepy

    hey at least they are not the sort of people who go around terrorising neigbourhood, and not the sort of people idolising rap and what it stands for ( i.e life of drug dealing, pimping and police hating )

    they are just they sort of kids who like to fantasize about death, have interest in art, and depressed every now and again.
  • Drop The Leash 10Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    genie wrote:
    hey at least they are not the sort of people who go around terrorising neigbourhood, and not the sort of people idolising rap and what it stands for ( i.e life of drug dealing, pimping and police hating )

    they are just they sort of kids who like to fantasize about death, have interest in art, and depressed every now and again.
    very true.

    i have nothing against them, i used to be friends with an emo until i found he was cutting himself and on LSD every day.
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


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