Diego Maradona

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  • chinobaeza
    chinobaeza Santiago Posts: 2,489
    Hitch-Hiker wrote:
    Are you just saying that because of the hand of god? He was the greatest player who ever lived.
    yes, and the contacts with the mafia, the drug abuse, his support for Menem, etc...
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Chime wrote:
    I remember as a kid even after the hand of God everyone still wanted to be Maradona when we were playing footie and when asked who the best player in the world was you would still say Maradona.

    We were pissed off about the hand of God ... but still thought he was amazing.
    Maybe it's just people my age then :) You guys were around to see the Hand of God. Ignorant english people of my age, including my friends and one of my brothers who identifies himself as english rather than scottish ( :mad: ) just call him a cheating prick and ignore the fact he was a genius.

    His dribbling skills were ridiculous. Whether the finish was the best or not, that other goal against England, the "Goal of the Century" is technically the greatest sporting achievment I've ever seen.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    chinobaeza wrote:
    yes, and the contacts with the mafia, the drug abuse, his support for Menem, etc...

    Ivan Zamorano called... he wants you to stay out of Dunkmans thread ;)


    ok.. politics aside.. he's the world's greatest ever footballer... no question.

    is he an idiot who took too many drugs, shot journos, became a mafia showpiece, a man of questionable morals???? absolutely he is.. but he's also the greatest footballer ever.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    chinobaeza wrote:
    yes, and the contacts with the mafia, the drug abuse, his support for Menem, etc...
    Yeah, all of those affect how talented a footballer he was :rolleyes:

    Last time I checked, cocaine wasn't generally used as a performance enhancing drug in sports, it's used to get high. Any steroids he took were at the end of his career when he wasn't doing great anyway. Doesn't detract from his brilliance in any way.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Hinny
    Hinny Posts: 1,610
    Amazing skills alright, but I prefer my sporting champions to be a bit more honourable and upstanding.
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  • Dissidentman
    Dissidentman Posts: 15,378
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    o_O


    seriously?

    Yeah, soccer players in the States get about as much press as chess players. Growing up, I couldn't name one soccer player.

    And the one's I can name now are only from this thread.
  • chinobaeza
    chinobaeza Santiago Posts: 2,489
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Last time I checked, cocaine wasn't generally used as a performance enhancing drug in sports, it's used to get high.
    I know, cocaine makes you worse at sports.

    PS: Hey dunk, say hi to Ivan :)
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Hinny wrote:
    Amazing skills alright, but I prefer my sporting champions to be a bit more honourable and upstanding.

    I'm not fussed if he shoves anchors up camel's fudds... he's a footballing genius.

    in one of those clips he does this thing where he kicks a ball about 30ft into the air vertically and lets it drop and kinda does the same thing again.

    that is the very same thing that Gary Lineker once said was the greatest thing he saw him do on a football pitch... Lineker, Platini and Beckenbauer were just in awe ... lineker didnt even try it...

    honestly try it... its nigh on impossible to kick a ball straight up into the air, let alone twice with half-volleys
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    chinobaeza wrote:
    yes, and the contacts with the mafia, the drug abuse, his support for Menem, etc...


    if that description fitted Jimmy Page then would that make him any less talented on guitar?

    a footballer can do what he wants off the pitch if he wants... just as genius musicians can as well.. as long as they produce the genius when its needed then whats the issue.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    dissidentman wrote:
    Yeah, soccer players in the States get about as much press as chess players. Growing up, I couldn't name one soccer player.

    And the one's I can name now are only from this thread.
    I find that weird. Ice Hockey doesn't exactly get press here but I know about Wayne Gretzky and I know Wilt Chamberlain and Shaq and Jordan from Basketball. I always assumed that everyone would know the greats like Maradona and Pele even Americans :)

    Christ, Maradona was even in the world cup you guys hosted, although he was a shadow of his former self and coked up to the eyeballs.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    dunkman wrote:
    if that description fitted Jimmy Page then would that make him any less talented on guitar?

    a footballer can do what he wants off the pitch if he wants... just as genius musicians can as well.. as long as they produce the genius when its needed then whats the issue.
    Some people take sport too seriously Dunk. They want nobility and fair play. I want to see genius :) That's why Maradona was the best.

    Although Diego isn't all bad. According to wikipedia:

    "In 2002, Maradona said he could not have scored such a beautiful goal if it had not been against the honest English defence, who did not knock him down as most defenses used to do. "They are probably the noblest in the world," he added."
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Dissidentman
    Dissidentman Posts: 15,378
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I find that weird. Ice Hockey doesn't exactly get press here but I know about Wayne Gretzky and I know Wilt Chamberlain and Shaq and Jordan from Basketball. I always assumed that everyone would know the greats like Maradona and Pele even Americans :)

    Christ, Maradona was even in the world cup you guys hosted, although he was a shadow of his former self and coked up to the eyeballs.

    I'll give ya Pele...


    I remember when the World Cup came around. I had won tickets and couldn't even sell them for face value at the venue, so I went and got drunk instead.
  • chime
    chime Posts: 7,839
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Maybe it's just people my age then :) You guys were around to see the Hand of God. Ignorant english people of my age, including my friends and one of my brothers who identifies himself as english rather than scottish ( :mad: ) just call him a cheating prick and ignore the fact he was a genius.

    His dribbling skills were ridiculous. Whether the finish was the best or not, that other goal against England, the "Goal of the Century" is technically the greatest sporting achievment I've ever seen.

    Kids these days :rolleyes: :p *wanders off feeling old* ... as for your brother I know some kids who are 1/2 Scottish, 1/2 English so they are Scottish for the rugby and English for the footie ...
    So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
  • chinobaeza
    chinobaeza Santiago Posts: 2,489
    dunkman wrote:
    if that description fitted Jimmy Page then would that make him any less talented on guitar?
    No, I never said that....I find him very talent, I just don't like him.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Chime wrote:
    Kids these days :rolleyes: :p *wanders off feeling old* ... as for your brother I know some kids who are 1/2 Scottish, 1/2 English so they are Scottish for the rugby and English for the footie ...
    That is appalling to me. I am 100% scottish by blood but born in England, as is the youngest of my older brothers. The other two were born in Glasgow. The younger one has always considered himself English, much to the disgust of my dad :p But at least he's consistent with it. He likes his scottish heritage but he supports England in all sports he likes as opposed to picking and choosing depending on what each country is good at.

    Scotland's mediocrity at football could never stop me from supporting them.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • chime
    chime Posts: 7,839
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    That is appalling to me. I am 100% scottish by blood but born in England, as is the youngest of my older brothers. The other two were born in Glasgow. The younger one has always considered himself English, much to the disgust of my dad :p But at least he's consistent with it. He likes his scottish heritage but he supports England in all sports he likes as opposed to picking and choosing depending on what each country is good at.

    Scotland's mediocrity at football could never stop me from supporting them.

    I think it is a choice their parents made and as that is what they grew up with it's what they have stuck with ... they would always support England and Scotland if they aren't playing each other ... just the one they 'follow'.

    Will see what my nephews end up doing as they are both 1/2 and 1/2 as well :)
    So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    The Greatest. Watched a video one time of his Barca and Napoli days, I was amazed at the variation in his goals: lobs, dribbling through and deftly tucking it away, curlers, thunderous strikes, and the freekicks.......

    Read his autobiography and it's pretty funny in parts, there's no doubt he's a contrary git who's totally absorbed in himself.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    chinobaeza wrote:
    No, I never said that....I find him very talent, I just don't like him.

    Marcelo Salas called.. he says Dunk must have misunderstood you...

    :o
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • rearviewmiror
    rearviewmiror Posts: 894
    Cheating bastard.
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    rearviewmiror wrote:
    Cheating bastard.
    yawn.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"

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