I don't think it's a question of newbies, oldsters and inbetweeners... it's a question of personal manners, tempers, views, etc. Nothing to do with how long one has been on the board, all to do with the individual.
Now I don't know who has been banned, but I'm guessing it was for personal attacks or saying quite offending things (which is usually the case).
Of course it has to do with personal manners. Some people like d2d will last forever because they're respectful.
However, mods are highly unlikely to ban someone on a first offense. The only people I know of who've been banned since I've been here have been regulars...people who were most likely reported numerous times before they were actually banned. Typically that takes time. That's why I say the older the message board, the more regulars you see who troll, and the more intervention you see from the mods.
O...people who were most likely reported numerous times before they were actually banned. ......the more regulars you see who troll....
True.. I guess if one keeps on being offensive in their posts (whichever 'offensive' behaviour it may be), I guess other board members could get fed up seeing the same stuff over and over again and report out of exasperation.
The board lately has been so full of hate and negativity. It would be good to see it 'nice' again.
Life might seem all about trolling, spamming and flaming, and not being very nice to one another. Good message boards, however, are all about not trolling, spamming, or flaming, and being nice to one another. Once you realise that a good message board is not a reflection of real life but a projection of some kind of social utopia or idealistic experiment, then you can get on with things smoothly. You might feel like one of the Eloi in H.G. Wells's The Time Machine while in real life you're more like a Morlock. However, the bottom line is, when we signed up here, we agreed to stick by the posting guidelines, which are guidelines for a good message board.
Life might seem all about trolling, spamming and flaming, and not being very nice to one another. Good message boards, however, are all about not trolling, spamming, or flaming, and being nice to one another. Once you realise that a good message board is not a reflection of real life but a projection of some kind of social utopia or idealistic experiment, then you can get on with things smoothly. You might feel like one of the Eloi in H.G. Wells's The Time Machine while in real life you're more like a Morlock. However, the bottom line is, when we signed up here, we agreed to stick by the posting guidelines, which are guidelines for a good message board.
*End of public service announcement*
Well said sir.
Fact is, the only thing more pointless than arguing in real life, is arguing on this or any other message board. What is the point?
Have a quibble about which beer is best, or wether or not Highway to Hell is a superior AC/DC album to Powerage...but after that, there really is not much point at all, I mean gun laws aren't gonna get changed cos of a rant on the PJ message Pit!
Have a nice weekend folks
Well said sir.
Fact is, the only thing more pointless than arguing in real life, is arguing on this or any other message board. What is the point?
Have a quibble about which beer is best, or wether or not Highway to Hell is a superior AC/DC album to Powerage...but after that, there really is not much point at all, I mean gun laws aren't gonna get changed cos of a rant on the PJ message Pit!
Have a nice weekend folks
I don't know, I still think people should get banned for saying things that wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else in life. Like you wouldn't start making racist or sexist comments if you were out in public with your friends. I don't know, maybe you would, but if so I wouldn't want you in my community, online or in real space. I also take major issue with the immature, incessant, mean spiriting mocking of others that goes on. It's like the 3rd grade playground in here, without the witty zings.
Like you wouldn't start making racist or sexist comments if you were out in public with your friends.
Er, I only need to walk into any pub around here and I can guarantee I'll hear ample evidence of both, within about the first two minutes. And we're not talking about a rough end of town, either.
I don't know, I still think people should get banned for saying things that wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else in life. Like you wouldn't start making racist or sexist comments if you were out in public with your friends. I don't know, maybe you would, but if so I wouldn't want you in my community, online or in real space. I also take major issue with the immature, incessant, mean spiriting mocking of others that goes on. It's like the 3rd grade playground in here, without the witty zings.
Wouldn't it make more sense to try to communicate? People say things, they disagree, they argue. Banning them isn't something I would consider good practice in real life. We see that kind of thing does not work because we only have to look at countries where there is no freedom of speech, no freedom of opinion. Things get said, that's life. We all need to learn how to deal with things that are said to us that are objectionable and we all need to learn how not to say things that are objectionable. Better communication not silencing people. Silencing people is not the answer.
Well that's my opinion anyway.
Wouldn't it make more sense to try to communicate? People say things, they disagree, they argue. Banning them isn't something I would consider good practice in real life. We see that kind of thing does not work because we only have to look at countries where there is no freedom of speech, no freedom of opinion. Things get said, that's life. We all need to learn how to deal with things that are said to us that are objectionable and we all need to learn how not to say things that are objectionable. Better communication not silencing people. Silencing people is not the answer.
Well that's my opinion anyway.
well said
you get banned for life but you can still PM? I don't get it.
It creates contrived comments b/c people 'hold back' so 'oh no I don't get banned' from the precious msg board
like God forbid I say some folks with 30 billion posts are hypocrites ...
<runs away before I get banned> And if I do I'll talk to you later Jeanie, Love ya!!!
"...like a word misplaced, nothing said, what a waste.."
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We all need to learn how to deal with things that are said to us that are objectionable
We do, but we all have a breaking point. I can deal with personal attacks (ie directed ONLY at me and my person), but when it comes to attacks directed at my family - that's it. No one calls my kid names, my husband either but he's a grown man, and gets away with it. And I'm generally a very laid back person! I think most mothers or fathers would react that way.
In regards to the comments about the mods here, I think they are very cool. There are too many whiny people here lately and people that start threads that just draw attention to themselves. Does there really HAVE to be a dozen threads where the same group of 5 people respond over and over again? Maybe thats why threads get locked or deleted.
In regards to the comments about the mods here, I think they are very cool. There are too many whiny people here lately and people that start threads that just draw attention to themselves. Does there really HAVE to be a dozen threads where the same group of 5 people respond over and over again? Maybe thats why threads get locked or deleted.
I know, some of us have better things to do than whine :rolleyes:
Besides, there's at least 10 people that could be described that way, not 5. Be fair now.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
What has the world come to when it gets to the point of coming to an internet message board to get sympathy for having a bad day????
No, really!
There's a difference between looking for sympathy and venting. Sometimes I'd rather lumber the people here with my more trivial problems than my friends because I'm well aware that my friends have their own shit to worry about. At least here people can just ignore you if they aren't interested which is fine. You, for example, don't have to respond to anything I say.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Sactly... Typing instead of "talking" and comforting.
No, really...
Anyhoo... Back to having a bad day myself
It's nothing to with being comforted by a talking, present person. Do you never just want to vent about things until you feel a little better? Or do you just hit the bottle/a wall with your fist?
You go with your methods and other people will go with theirs.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
We do, but we all have a breaking point. I can deal with personal attacks (ie directed ONLY at me and my person), but when it comes to attacks directed at my family - that's it. No one calls my kid names, my husband either but he's a grown man, and gets away with it. And I'm generally a very laid back person! I think most mothers or fathers would react that way.
Respect is what is lacking.
Yes, I understand what you're saying red and I am much the same however I think what happened here was an escalation of insults, something that perhaps should have been adjudicated earlier and offensive posts deleted before it developed to where it did.
I mean in real life even if you do get into a disagreement with someone and they do say something highly offensive about your family, depending on the person, you may still manage to negotiate your way around the argument and remain friends. We don't get non verbal cues here. And people still do lose their tempers. It's a different way of communicating and we can't all, always remember how to do it correctly.
There's a difference between looking for sympathy and venting. Sometimes I'd rather lumber the people here with my more trivial problems than my friends because I'm well aware that my friends have their own shit to worry about.
I'm sorry to say it but I feel that way too. Sorry.
Doesn't it feel empty here without dunkman? It's like a big chunk of AET is missing! :eek:
i dont give a rats ass that people get banned.....
I do, when they're decent, interesting, witty, pleasant individuals, who I liked spending time with.
Others, sure, they aren't missed, and there are even some here now that would be missed less than a dose of the clap.
I do, when they're decent, interesting, witty, pleasant individuals, who I liked spending time with.
Others, sure, they aren't missed, and there are even some here now that would be missed less than a dose of the clap.
i guess i have to agree with you....
that is why i hope to see soulsinging back here soon.....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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However, mods are highly unlikely to ban someone on a first offense. The only people I know of who've been banned since I've been here have been regulars...people who were most likely reported numerous times before they were actually banned. Typically that takes time. That's why I say the older the message board, the more regulars you see who troll, and the more intervention you see from the mods.
True.. I guess if one keeps on being offensive in their posts (whichever 'offensive' behaviour it may be), I guess other board members could get fed up seeing the same stuff over and over again and report out of exasperation.
The board lately has been so full of hate and negativity. It would be good to see it 'nice' again.
*End of public service announcement*
Well said sir.
Fact is, the only thing more pointless than arguing in real life, is arguing on this or any other message board. What is the point?
Have a quibble about which beer is best, or wether or not Highway to Hell is a superior AC/DC album to Powerage...but after that, there really is not much point at all, I mean gun laws aren't gonna get changed cos of a rant on the PJ message Pit!
Have a nice weekend folks
I don't know, I still think people should get banned for saying things that wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else in life. Like you wouldn't start making racist or sexist comments if you were out in public with your friends. I don't know, maybe you would, but if so I wouldn't want you in my community, online or in real space. I also take major issue with the immature, incessant, mean spiriting mocking of others that goes on. It's like the 3rd grade playground in here, without the witty zings.
Er, I only need to walk into any pub around here and I can guarantee I'll hear ample evidence of both, within about the first two minutes. And we're not talking about a rough end of town, either.
Wouldn't it make more sense to try to communicate? People say things, they disagree, they argue. Banning them isn't something I would consider good practice in real life. We see that kind of thing does not work because we only have to look at countries where there is no freedom of speech, no freedom of opinion. Things get said, that's life. We all need to learn how to deal with things that are said to us that are objectionable and we all need to learn how not to say things that are objectionable. Better communication not silencing people. Silencing people is not the answer.
Well that's my opinion anyway.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
well said
you get banned for life but you can still PM? I don't get it.
It creates contrived comments b/c people 'hold back' so 'oh no I don't get banned' from the precious msg board
like God forbid I say some folks with 30 billion posts are hypocrites
<runs away before I get banned>
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
6-01-06
6/25/08
Free Speedy
and Metsy!
Respect is what is lacking.
Besides, there's at least 10 people that could be described that way, not 5. Be fair now.
No, really!
It's just the same as venting to anyone else in the real world.
There are actual people typing in other posts, you know...
Sactly... Typing instead of "talking" and comforting.
No, really...
Anyhoo... Back to having a bad day myself
You go with your methods and other people will go with theirs.
Yeah, I don't understand that either Allie, especially given than if you're on a 3 day time out you can't pm.
Anyway, you should say some folks with 30 billion posts seem to be hypocrytical.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Yes, I understand what you're saying red and I am much the same however I think what happened here was an escalation of insults, something that perhaps should have been adjudicated earlier and offensive posts deleted before it developed to where it did.
I mean in real life even if you do get into a disagreement with someone and they do say something highly offensive about your family, depending on the person, you may still manage to negotiate your way around the argument and remain friends. We don't get non verbal cues here. And people still do lose their tempers. It's a different way of communicating and we can't all, always remember how to do it correctly.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
I'm sorry to say it but I feel that way too. Sorry.
Doesn't it feel empty here without dunkman? It's like a big chunk of AET is missing! :eek:
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I do, when they're decent, interesting, witty, pleasant individuals, who I liked spending time with.
Others, sure, they aren't missed, and there are even some here now that would be missed less than a dose of the clap.
that is why i hope to see soulsinging back here soon.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
If by lately you mean the last few years, then sure.
This board is censored more than a newspaper in Cuba.
they don't 'seem' to be,
they are
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
6-01-06
6/25/08
Free Speedy
and Metsy!