Sigh. I don't even know what to say anymore.

Jeremy1012

that thread was about mine, and anyone else's, bad day So maybe the topic had a little digression. why does everything and everyone get banned here for expressing opinions these days?!

And mods, don't ban me for this. I'm just expressing an opinion here, on the message board of a band who would agree with us having the ability to do so, such are their views on society. I just don't understand what is happening around here lately.

I made this thread because I have had a bad day, was hoping for some cheap sympathy from the lovely people on this board and did not expect to have to deal with this ridiculous new draconian atmosphere here. Now, if this is considered offensive or unacceptable then sorry, I'm just expressing myself. Ban me if you have to, I don't think I'm being out of line here. I enjoy this message board greatly and think the mods have done a good job over the years but it is becoming a site where the purpose of it's existence is being subverted. I don't think I'm saying anything that other people aren't thinking here.

Thanks in advance to Kat and Sea if they read this and sympathise in any way.

acoustic guy

Jeremy1012 wrote:

that thread was about mine, and anyone else's, bad day So maybe the topic had a little digression. why does everything and everyone get banned here for expressing opinions these days?!

And mods, don't ban me for this. I'm just expressing an opinion here, on the message board of a band who would agree with us having the ability to do so, such are their views on society. I just don't understand what is happening around here lately.

I made this thread because I have had a bad day, was hoping for some cheap sympathy from the lovely people on this board and did not expect to have to deal with this ridiculous new draconian atmosphere here. Now, if this is considered offensive or unacceptable then sorry, I'm just expressing myself. Ban me if you have to, I don't think I'm being out of line here. I enjoy this message board greatly and think the mods have done a good job over the years but it is becoming a site where the purpose of it's existence is being subverted. I don't think I'm saying anything that other people aren't thinking here.

Thanks in advance to Kat and Sea if they read this and sympathise in any way.

I have been in a bad mood all day and night b/c of earlier.
Sucks.

DOSW

Hope you feel better man. I guess I kinda contributed to the closing of the other thread with my comment there at the end about the people in question. Sorry about that.

Jeremy1012

DOSW wrote:

Hope you feel better man. I guess I kinda contributed to the closing of the other thread with my comment there at the end about the people in question. Sorry about that.

Don't worry about it. I don't think it was out of line or anything at all.

and thanks, I will feel better just a bad day.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

Not sure how many forums you've been active in, but I've been in a few, and this is probably the best one I've been on as far as the mods go. I think they're making a good effort not to let this forum become full of negative garbage like so many others are. Many people think the forum they post on is different and special, but when not moderated, they all become the same way: a few trolls pretty much take over and stir up so much negativity that it infects almost everyone to the point where every thread turns into a trail of personal attacks.

Just my smelly opinion (_*_)

Jeremy1012

Saturnal wrote:

Not sure how many forums you've been active in, but I've been in a few, and this is probably the best one I've been on as far as the mods go. I think they're making a good effort not to let this forum become full of negative garbage like so many others are. Many people think the forum they post on is different and special, but when not moderated, they all become the same way: a few trolls pretty much take over and stir up so much negativity that it infects almost everyone to the point where every thread turns into a trail of personal attacks.

Just my smelly opinion (_*_)

Oh I totally agree, that's why it bugs me I love this board and have spent many hours (far more than I care to calculate) perusing the threads here. I think the mods have generally been very good. I am an opinionated person and yet, in three whole years, I have only been banned once and for a mere 3 days. I just wish I didn't feel like I need to bite my tongue so much to ensure my record stays that way and I sure wish I didn't have to monitor the threads I start with such fascist militancy that the slightest digression must be checked, lest the thread gets deleted.

I know the board has a limited bandwidth etc and it is not suitable for chatting or whatever but I don't feel that that is what is being moderated here. I am not trying to be difficult or controversial here but either I and many others have become more difficult and inappropriate with our posts here or the board is changing. My gut instinct is that it's the latter

MattCameronKicksButt

Saturnal wrote:

Not sure how many forums you've been active in, but I've been in a few, and this is probably the best one I've been on as far as the mods go. I think they're making a good effort not to let this forum become full of negative garbage like so many others are. Many people think the forum they post on is different and special, but when not moderated, they all become the same way: a few trolls pretty much take over and stir up so much negativity that it infects almost everyone to the point where every thread turns into a trail of personal attacks.

Just my smelly opinion (_*_)

Thats a good opinion. The mods are just doing there jobs but there were no trolls in this case.

Jamie, you never got the chance to say what was wrong?

GreenTeaDisease

Jeremy1012 wrote:

that thread was about mine, and anyone else's, bad day So maybe the topic had a little digression. why does everything and everyone get banned here for expressing opinions these days?!

And mods, don't ban me for this. I'm just expressing an opinion here, on the message board of a band who would agree with us having the ability to do so, such are their views on society. I just don't understand what is happening around here lately.

I made this thread because I have had a bad day, was hoping for some cheap sympathy from the lovely people on this board and did not expect to have to deal with this ridiculous new draconian atmosphere here. Now, if this is considered offensive or unacceptable then sorry, I'm just expressing myself. Ban me if you have to, I don't think I'm being out of line here. I enjoy this message board greatly and think the mods have done a good job over the years but it is becoming a site where the purpose of it's existence is being subverted. I don't think I'm saying anything that other people aren't thinking here.

Thanks in advance to Kat and Sea if they read this and sympathise in any way.

you and me both babe.

I'm sorry, but where I come from, it's not ok to say/write some of the stuff that people do around here without reprocussions. it's not my fault that people write these things on here, I just call it like I see it.

I'm getting reamed for no reason...again. The worst part is, you can't even tell anyone off. You have to sit there and read all this shit, and if you say anything you'll get banned.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

Jeremy1012 wrote:

I just wish I didn't feel like I need to bite my tongue so much

Yea, this is the problem with the internet.

decides2dream

i missed yout thread, so cannot comment on it directly. that said, i think it's simple. we agreed to follow certain guidelines/rules when we joined up. a BIG part of that is RESPECT. also, this is an all-ages forum, and the *offical* pearl jam board. meaning, this board is a representation of pearl jam. to me, that carries a lot of weight, and responsibility. they want to foster a particular environment here, welcoming, rather positive, respectful. doesn't mean people can't be negative, disagree, have heated debate. just means one needs to stay ON TOPIC, respectful in the manner in whcih they post. it really is NOT difficult, at all. there are plenty of other places out there in cyberspace to go and rant and say/do whatever...this just doesn't happen to be one of em. i agree with it, respect it...and am GLAD for it. when i want to say things i KNOW are inappropriate for this forum, i say them elsewhere.....even if simply in PMs. that's it.



hope your day...and/or tomorrow..is brighter.



and the sun shall rise another day.

Jeremy1012

decides2dream wrote:

i missed yout thread, so cannot comment on it directly. that said, i think it's simple. we agreed to follow certain guidelines/rules when we joined up. a BIG part of that is RESPECT. also, this is an all-ages forum, and the *offical* pearl jam board. meaning, this board is a representation of pearl jam. to me, that carries a lot of weight, and responsibility. they want to foster a particular environment here, welcoming, rather positive, respectful. doesn't mean people can't be negative, disagree, have heated debate. just means one needs to stay ON TOPIC, respectful in the manner in whcih they post. it really is NOT difficult, at all. there are plenty of other places out there in cyberspace to go and rant and say/do whatever...this just doesn't happen to be one of em. i agree with it, respect it...and am GLAD for it. when i want to say things i KNOW are inappropriate for this forum, i say them elsewhere.....even if simply in PMs. that's it.



hope your day...and/or tomorrow..is brighter.



and the sun shall rise another day.

The point is there was nothing disrespectful about my thread or plenty of others that have been deleted recently. It seems that if we even mention the moderation of this board then you can be sure that the thread mentioning it will go the same was as the others. I'm not saying that the thread that caused all the bother earlier didn't deserve to be closed but I'm not sure if it deserved banning for two people and it certainly didn't warrant the deletion of a thread about a totally different subject that happened to touch on that subject briefly.

That's all I'm saying. I respect the rules of the board entirely, or at least to the best of my ability, and if I overstep them then I apologise but I just find it increasingly hard to judge whether or not I am doing so these days.

justam

What happened today? I missed it all I guess. Working all day...

norm

ugh!!! i'm now drunk now jamie.....sorry your other thread was deleted......i know the mods are doing their job and i believe they are doing a great job but....nevermind....


LET'S DRINK!!!!!!! life's too short......:D

Jeanie

cutback wrote:

ugh!!! i'm now drunk now jamie.....sorry your other thread was deleted......i know the mods are doing their job and i believe they are doing a great job but....nevermind....


LET'S DRINK!!!!!!! life's too short......:D

It's 3pm Saturday arvo. Bit early for a session for me love. But CHEERS BIG EARS! anyway! **raises coffee**

decides2dream

Jeremy1012 wrote:

The point is there was nothing disrespectful about my thread or plenty of others that have been deleted recently. It seems that if we even mention the moderation of this board then you can be sure that the thread mentioning it will go the same was as the others. I'm not saying that the thread that caused all the bother earlier didn't deserve to be closed but I'm not sure if it deserved banning for two people and it certainly didn't warrant the deletion of a thread about a totally different subject that happened to touch on that subject briefly.

That's all I'm saying. I respect the rules of the board entirely, or at least to the best of my ability, and if I overstep them then I apologise but I just find it increasingly hard to judge whether or not I am doing so these days.

as i said, i cannot even weigh in with an opinion on your specific thread. all i can say is more than likely..in some fashion...it must've violated some rules. did it veer completely off-topic? inappropriate? any disrespect? any/all of the above can cause a thread lock/deletion. c'est la vie.


i find it interesting how people, not speaking of *you* specifically......get *upset* over thread lockings/deletions. there is NO *ownership* here...it is no one's thread. you may start it sure...but that's it. we're on hosted space, so it is what it is. we are free to post, to enjoy this board, follow the forum guidelines, or not...and go elsewhere.

i DO understand what you are saying, to a degree. i don't have that problem really. i think it is glaringly simple. stay on topic. be respectful to others. don't post inappropriate links/private info. simple.


as to that *other* thread, while i didn't see everything, it most definitely went off into territory that got too personal, name-calling....and didn't exactly start off on the right note in any case. i am all for sharing opinions, but there are ways to do so that do not insult others in the process. bottomline...it's their call to make. agree, disagree...c'est la vie. just along for the ride.......:)

The Champ

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

you and me both babe.

I'm sorry, but where I come from, it's not ok to say/write some of the stuff that people do around here without reprocussions. it's not my fault that people write these things on here, I just call it like I see it.

I'm getting reamed for no reason...again. The worst part is, you can't even tell anyone off. You have to sit there and read all this shit, and if you say anything you'll get banned.

But it can be assumed that where you come from it's perfectly acceptable to completely change a thread's topic to personally attack a man who was simply asking for help. I guess where you come from it's perfectly okay to call someone a sexist and tell him to go get therapy for no good reason. All this without being provoked in any way and yet no reprocussions for these malicious acts..

decides2dream

The Champ wrote:

But it can be assumed that where you come from it's perfectly acceptable to completely change a thread's topic to personally attack a man who was simply asking for help. I guess where you come from it's perfectly okay to call someone a sexist and tell him to go get therapy for no good reason. All this without being provoked in any way and yet no reprocussions for these malicious acts..

reprocussions?

malicious acts?
sorry champ...i just find it so humours to read this from you.


also...........don't want to derail .....so again.....i think like anything else in life, things will never be 100% *fair* and even, but i think *here* the effort is made for the 'greater good' of fostering a positive environment for pj fans to gather together.

norm

Jeanie wrote:

It's 3pm Saturday arvo. Bit early for a session for me love. But CHEERS BIG EARS! anyway! **raises coffee**

well sweetie it's been a strange feb 29th!! here and in "real life"

Jeanie

cutback wrote:

well sweetie it's been a strange feb 29th!! here and in "real life" ; )

ooooh! Gossip???? DO TELL!











you so know I'm pm'ing you right now don't you!

SPEEDY MCCREADY

cutback wrote:

well sweetie it's been a strange feb 29th!! here and in "real life"

what did i miss here today???

The Champ

decides2dream wrote:

reprocussions?

malicious acts?
sorry champ...i just find it so humours to read this from you.


also...........don't want to derail .....so again.....i think like anything else in life, things will never be 100% *fair* and even, but i think *here* the effort is made for the 'greater good' of fostering a positive environment for pj fans to gather together.

She used/misspelled the darn word first ..

Yes, malicious..You of all people should no that I joke around but don't attack in this manner..There is a huge difference..