Am I the only person who likes the bad guy in no country for old men?

Heineken Helen

So I finally got to see it last night! Brilliant brilliant film... and I really like the ending My boyfriend was telling me it would give me nightmares... but I liked the bad guy. Ya kinda expect him to redeem himself somehow and I like that he doesn't but i still think there's a good guy in there somewhere

eMMI

ooh! this reminds me, I should watch the movie. but I haven't been in the mood for "heavy" films lately.. but I will watch it. thanks for reminding. lol.

I'll post a reply that coincides with the thread topic as soon as possible.

Heineken Helen

eMMI wrote:

ooh! this reminds me, I should watch the movie. but I haven't been in the mood for "heavy" films lately.. but I will watch it. thanks for reminding. lol.

I'll post a reply that coincides with the thread topic as soon as possible.

It's not very heavy... just one of those films that captivates you almost immediately.

well well well worth a watch.

eMMI

Heineken Helen wrote:

It's not very heavy... just one of those films that captivates you almost immediately.

well well well worth a watch.

by heavy movies, I mean not-comedies. I don't know, really just don't feel like thinking about very deep things currently. one of the latest movies I've watched was in fact High School Musical 2!! :eek: and I liked it better than the first one!

but fear not, I will watch No Country For Old Men soon enough. lol.

Heineken Helen

eMMI wrote:

by heavy movies, I mean not-comedies. I don't know, really just don't feel like thinking about very deep things currently. one of the latest movies I've watched was in fact High School Musical 2!! :eek: and I liked it better than the first one!

but fear not, I will watch No Country For Old Men soon enough. lol.

Another film I watched AGAIN yesterday was Wicker Park... I fucking love that film. The end gives me goosebumps

Heineken Helen

hartamh wrote:

Do you mean Javier Barden? I like him to He looks really different from that movie, he is gorgeous and he has a very sexy voice

I know... I think that's why I couldn't help but like him... simply cos it was Javier Barden. I was trying to explain to my bf and sister that... but they'd never heard of him so they didn't believe me. He doesnt smile so much in that film... and that's his most striking feature I believe.

Heineken Helen

Hmm... just read his IMDB thingy... he played rugby union and was on the Spanish team.. he's even worked as a stripper :eek: I didn't know he was nominated for an oscar before.

Heineken Helen

hartamh wrote:

Wow!!!! He's in a really sexy movie now (can't think of name) but it looks really good

:eek: hmm... back to IMDB will have to check that out!

Heineken Helen

Hmm... looks like it's 'Vicky Cristina Barcelona'? Crap name... but I'll go see it though

Jeremy1012

hartamh wrote:

Wow!!!! He's in a really sexy movie now (can't think of name) but it looks really good

He's in Live Flesh which is damn sexy.

MrMerkinball

Heineken Helen wrote:

So I finally got to see it last night! Brilliant brilliant film... and I really like the ending My boyfriend was telling me it would give me nightmares... but I liked the bad guy. Ya kinda expect him to redeem himself somehow and I like that he doesn't but i still think there's a good guy in there somewhere

I (respectfully) disagree. I don't think there is a good guy in there at all.

Black Diamond

That is an interesting viewpoint of the movie. I found him to be cold evil. Wonderfully portrayed and written to show how evil is really more powerful than good.

I will definately re-watch looking through Anton's eyes this time. Thanks for the good idea.

in_hiding79

I loved the bad guy, but I LOVED Josh Brolin's character a bit more!

gabers

IMO, the coolest bad guy ever. I really love this movie. I agree, Josh Brolin was great too. Everyone was. Although they probably could have picked someone else to play Woody's character. I like Woody, but I think he should have been played by a little more of a tough guy.

Jeremy1012

MrMerkinball wrote:

I (respectfully) disagree. I don't think there is a good guy in there at all.

yeah, he's kind of like the Terminator in human form. Nothing except death is really going to stop him.

catch22

Black Diamond wrote:

That is an interesting viewpoint of the movie. I found him to be cold evil. Wonderfully portrayed and written to show how evil is really more powerful than good.

I will definately re-watch looking through Anton's eyes this time. Thanks for the good idea.

i don't think he was evil. he wasn't good either. he was just totally amoral. that's the impression i got. i feel like evil would take pleasure in the pain and violence, and i don't think he did so much. he was just like a force of nature, an animal. he had a job and he just kept moving forward, heedless of the price or consequences. it wasn't so much about evil being more powerful, just about how this world is chaotic and there are forces in it that go far above and beyond any good human intentions, or even evil human intentions. after all, he takes out the "bad guys" as mercilessly as the good.

Anon

Great film, but I really don't think there is supposed to be anything good at all about Anton Chigurh. He's implacable evil, the type of evil that Ed Tom Bell (Tommy Lee Jones) can't understand - think about the opening narration, where he describes the guy he sent to the gas chamber, who killed without remorse.

"The papers said it was a crime of passion and he told me there wasnt no passion to it...and he told me that he had been plannin to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out he'd do it again. Said he knew he was goin to hell. I dont know what to make of that. I surely dont."

petrocs

It was a great movie up to the ending with the stupid monologue by Tommy Lee Jones..but you're right he is a cool bad guy

decides2dream

Heineken Helen wrote:

So I finally got to see it last night! Brilliant brilliant film... and I really like the ending My boyfriend was telling me it would give me nightmares... but I liked the bad guy. Ya kinda expect him to redeem himself somehow and I like that he doesn't but i still think there's a good guy in there somewhere

anything javier bardem does is gold, so unsurprising you like the character he plays. i liked him too, mostly b/c he was just soooo detached and cold, like he didn't have a care in the world, and i would think he didn't. all about chance, etc.......really good film.



btw - vicky christina barcelona was gooood. javier was as ever, excellent. there is a thread about it somewhere, but sadly didn't get much response.

JonnyPistachio

Heineken Helen wrote:

So I finally got to see it last night! Brilliant brilliant film... and I really like the ending My boyfriend was telling me it would give me nightmares... but I liked the bad guy. Ya kinda expect him to redeem himself somehow and I like that he doesn't but i still think there's a good guy in there somewhere

darth vader?

Heineken Helen

MrMerkinball wrote:

I (respectfully) disagree. I don't think there is a good guy in there at all.

catch22 has a great point about how he's A-moral

he has his morals... we just don't agree with them... but damn if he isn't a man to stick to his morals . Even though he'd promised Brolin's character he'd SPOILER kill his wife.. he still gave her a chance... to leave it up to chance. A couple of times during the film, the words 'you can't stop what's coming' were said... and I like that. Cos, good or bad, you can't stop it!

Petrocs, I agree about the final scene... thought it should/could have ended with the scene before that... but it didn't annoy me. It's definitely a film I'm going to have to watch again... and probably again!

D2D gets me

Black Diamond

catch22 wrote:

i don't think he was evil. he wasn't good either. he was just totally amoral. that's the impression i got. i feel like evil would take pleasure in the pain and violence, and i don't think he did so much. he was just like a force of nature, an animal. he had a job and he just kept moving forward, heedless of the price or consequences. it wasn't so much about evil being more powerful, just about how this world is chaotic and there are forces in it that go far above and beyond any good human intentions, or even evil human intentions. after all, he takes out the "bad guys" as mercilessly as the good.

A much better interpretation than mine. This was more the case.

Heineken Helen

Black Diamond wrote:

A much better interpretation than mine. This was more the case.

See... I saw him as like god and the devil in one body. Maybe like if the devil got a chance to play god for a while

I figured out what it is... he's simple! There's no game playing... he does what he does and that's it.. he also sticks to his word. Why can't all men be so bloody simple... without all the killing though there's no complications, no lies, no bullshit! Yep, that's it, that's what I like about him

I never realised such a simple character could be so complex to figure out

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Heineken Helen wrote:

catch22 has a great point about how he's A-moral

he has his morals... we just don't agree with them... but damn if he isn't a man to stick to his morals . Even though he'd promised Brolin's character he'd SPOILER kill his wife.. he still gave her a chance... to leave it up to chance. A couple of times during the film, the words 'you can't stop what's coming' were said... and I like that. Cos, good or bad, you can't stop it!

Petrocs, I agree about the final scene... thought it should/could have ended with the scene before that... but it didn't annoy me. It's definitely a film I'm going to have to watch again... and probably again!

D2D gets me

Yeah he is an evil guy in the sense of how he ruthlessly kills people... but you are right about the morals. In the book, once he gets the money, he gives it to the people who hired him to get it. He doesn't take it for himself and run off... he gives every last dollar back. He's just doing his job.

decides2dream

Heineken Helen wrote:

See... I saw him as like god and the devil in one body. Maybe like if the devil got a chance to play god for a while

I figured out what it is... he's simple! There's no game playing... he does what he does and that's it.. he also sticks to his word. Why can't all men be so bloody simple... without all the killing though there's no complications, no lies, no bullshit! Yep, that's it, that's what I like about him

I never realised such a simple character could be so complex to figure out

i don't think he's *difficult* to figure out....i think he's just sooo different from people that we simply cannot fathom behaving as such. leaving killing up to the flip of a coin, to chance, etc....although isn't life, and death, really like that......? that's really what he's all about to me. most definitely amoral, although he most certainly at one time anyway, made the choice to get into his line of work....but otherwise.....just follows along. and most truly simply things are the work of very complicated minds. beauty in simplicity.

Heineken Helen

Trailer wrote:

Yeah he is an evil guy in the sense of how he ruthlessly kills people... but you are right about the morals. In the book, once he gets the money, he gives it to the people who hired him to get it. He doesn't take it for himself and run off... he gives every last dollar back. He's just doing his job.

see... good guy!

In fairness, it wasn't Josh Brolin's to get away with... look at what he did in the beginning. Wouldn't give the guy water! He coulda saved him then and there.

And to the person who didn't like Woody in it :eek: I thought he was great but then I tend to think he's great in everything. I love when he told the guy there was a floor missing in the building and yer man goes 'we'll look into it'

Heineken Helen

decides2dream wrote:

i don't think he's *difficult* to figure out....i think he's just sooo different from people that we simply cannot fathom behaving as such. leaving killing up to the flip of a coin, to chance, etc....although isn't life, and death, really like that......? that's really what he's all about to me. most definitely amoral, although he most certainly at one time anyway, made the choice to get into his line of work....but otherwise.....just follows along. and most truly simply things are the work of very complicated minds. beauty in simplicity.

Not that HE'S difficult to figure out... but, considering how simple he is, I spent an awful long time trying to figure out what it was I liked about him... where as it was the simplicity all along

decides2dream

Heineken Helen wrote:

Not that HE'S difficult to figure out... but, considering how simple he is, I spent an awful long time trying to figure out what it was I liked about him... where as it was the simplicity all along

ahhhhhhhh...gotcha.
face it, you like pathological, psychotic, amoral, cold-hearted killers.



btw - i LIKE the ending, as is.

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gabers wrote:

IMO, the coolest bad guy ever.

I agree. He gets better with each viewing! Same thing can be said about the movie.

Heineken Helen

decides2dream wrote:

ahhhhhhhh...gotcha.
face it, you like pathological, psychotic, amoral, cold-hearted killers.



btw - i LIKE the ending, as is.

Yep... that's me!

Trailer... I actually can't wait to watch it again already!

Trailer

Heineken Helen wrote:

Yep... that's me!

Trailer... I actually can't wait to watch it again already!

hehe.... I put it on my ipod so I can watch it whenever I want.:cool: