Drug Testing

Poncier

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

quit thinking logically........

I know, its frowned upon here.
Hehehe

HermanBloom

For

Heineken Helen

Poncier wrote:

How do you know that if they aren't tested?

well if you're doing your job properly as a boss, you'd know your employees aren't on drugs during working hours :rolleyes: maybe search them on the way INTO work? Would that make ya feel better?

See it's all you 'logical' thinkers that will have all of us searched, drug tested and whatever else... I'll pee in the toilet not a fucking cup!

Heineken Helen

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

quit thinking logically........

I know you like to make it seem like it's beyond you to have an adult debate and discussion on anything... but can't you at least TRY for once? :cool:

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Heineken Helen wrote:

I know you like to make it seem like it's beyond you to have an adult debate and discussion on anything... but can't you at least TRY for once? :cool:

go find someone else to insult today helen......

Poncier

Heineken Helen wrote:

well if you're doing your job properly as a boss, you'd know your employees aren't on drugs during working hours :rolleyes:

Tell me honsetly that you can tell someone is on drugs just by looking at them. In obvious instances yes, but by no means in many cases. So lets say a caregiver has smoked a fat doob on the way to work at the Thai Stick Day Care and their reaction time is just a little slow, and baby Seamus falls into the kiddie pool while they are eating some Hohos and by the time they think about the situation and react, baby Seamus has drowned.
Not good for baby Seamus' parents.

Heineken Helen

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

go find someone else to insult today helen......

I don't recall insulting you before but you too often just post a 'smart' comment in response putting the person down who's only trying to have an actual debate on the topic. If ya can't take it...... cos god knows ya GIVE it often enough :rolleyes:

Anyway I'm not going off topic. If you've a problem pm me.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Heineken Helen wrote:

I don't recall insulting you before but you too often just post a 'smart' comment in response putting the person down who's only trying to have an actual debate on the topic. If ya can't take it...... cos god knows ya GIVE it often enough :rolleyes:

Anyway I'm not going off topic. If you've a problem pm me.

go find someone else to insult today helen.....

chromiam

Poncier wrote:

Tell me honsetly that you can tell someone is on drugs just by looking at them. In obvious instances yes, but by no means in many cases. So lets say a caregiver has smoked a fat doob on the way to work at the Thai Stick Day Care and their reaction time is just a little slow, and baby Seamus falls into the kiddie pool while they are eating some Hohos and by the time they think about the situation and react, baby Seamus has drowned.
Not good for baby Seamus' parents.

or insert chemical operator for caregiver and they misread a chemical name and then cause toxic fuses or an explosion to occur.... not good for me or people within miles of the plant.

Heineken Helen

Poncier wrote:

Tell me honsetly that you can tell someone is on drugs just by looking at them. In obvious instances yes, but by no means in many cases. So lets say a caregiver has smoked a fat doob on the way to work at the Thai Stick Day Care and their reaction time is just a little slow, and baby Seamus falls into the kiddie pool while they are eating some Hohos and by the time they think about the situation and react, baby Seamus has drowned.
Not good for baby Seamus' parents.

well there would be more than one employee responsible for the kids... and yes, you CAN tell by looking at someone. I've lived with my fair share of stoners.

I know a few people working with delinquent kids who can only get through the day by smoking when they come home to chill out. These people get threatened and abused on a daily basis, sometimes several times a day... who's gonna tell them they can't smoke a spliff when they get home?

Heineken Helen

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

go find someone else to insult today helen.....

:rolleyes: take your childishness to pm's and I'll ignore ya there!

Poncier

Heineken Helen wrote:

and yes, you CAN tell by looking at someone.

Every time?? I don't think so. Believe me I know plenty of folks who have such a tolerance that they can appear fine while rather high, and that could definitely affect job performance and in some lines of work that can be very dangerous.

chromiam

Heineken Helen wrote:

and yes, you CAN tell by looking at someone. I've lived with my fair share of stoners.

now you are discriminating and making assumptions about people on the way that they look. Now you are creating a bigger and more subjective problem then a drug test.

Heineken Helen

Poncier wrote:

Every time?? I don't think so. Believe me I know plenty of folks who have such a tolerance that they can appear fine while rather high, and that could definitely affect job performance and in some lines of work that can be very dangerous.

Ok, I can see your point... BUT are there many jobs where, if you smoke OFF the job, it's dangerous? There may be one or two but not many more. I know very few jobs , actually none, where if you have a couple in the evening, you're a risk to your coworkers the following day... you're probably more of a risk if you're hungover. So why should what people do in their spare time be anything to do with their employers?

Heineken Helen

chromiam wrote:

now you are discriminating and making assumptions about people on the way that they look. Now you are creating a bigger and more subjective problem then a drug test.

Huh? You know exactly what I mean... it's all in the eyes!

Dylan Stone

Testing for marijuana...which stays in your system for 30 days?

Or should they just test you each day you show up for work to make sure you haven't had a drink in the last 48 or whatever it is.

I personally think....no...I KNOW.... my brain is WAY more beaten up and absent a day after I was out drinking a good deal than a day after or 10 days after I smoked up a few bong hits....

Not in favor of drug testing.

Invasion of privacy. Where does it start and where does it end? May be appropriate and called for in a few professions. Not in most.

Lukin639

Against

aspoonfulweighsaton

I wish every job would make all of their employees take a drug test every week, so yeah, I'm for it.

I don't care whether you're a crackhead or a pothead, you shouldn't be able to make money to support your habit.

Dylan Stone

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

I wish every job would make all of their employees take a drug test every week, so yeah, I'm for it.

I don't care whether you're a crackhead or a pothead, you shouldn't be able to make money to support your habit.

That's why it's best to grow your own.

chromiam

Heineken Helen wrote:

Huh? You know exactly what I mean... it's all in the eyes!

you're discriminating based on how someone's eyes look. Maybe they had a rough night up late with a sick kid, or just couldn't sleep. But in your mind they're in no shape to work because YOU think so by the look of their eyes.