Kentucky Derby

BlackCorduroy

binauralsounds wrote:

Newsflash.... Horses are BORN TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!! RUN RUN RUN....

Do research and see how many horses have these types of horrific injuries in races...

That's not a newsflash...I actually rode (not raced) horses for years. And I realize they are born to run.. but like this?..

edit- Fine, my bad over the thousands, but that's what I gatehred from TV

OneLove

BlackCorduroy wrote:

That's not a newsflash...I actually rode (not raced) horses for years. And I realize they are born to run.. but like this?..

edit- Fine, my bad over the thousands, but that's what I gatehred from TV

I hate the "born to run" idealizations... Yes, they were born to run, but it dosn't make how humans manipulate them correct...its all about the money.

But then I hear that excuse all the time about greyhounds.

BlackCorduroy

OneLove wrote:

I hate the "born to run" idealizations... Yes, they were born to run, but it dosn't make how humans manipulate them correct...its all about the money.

But then I hear that excuse all the time about greyhounds.

Thank you, very much agreed

gobrowns19

binauralsounds wrote:

Newsflash.... Horses are BORN TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!! RUN RUN RUN....

Do research and see how many horses have these types of horrific injuries in races...

Born to run? They are born, brought into the world, to run? Great logic. Just like people are born to be taken advantage of, to be slaves?

the little guy

Anyone celebrating did so before they realized what happened to Eight Belles. It was a horrible juxtaposition of exhilaration and tragedy. Nobody involved in the game is hardened against what happened today and shed many tears for racetrack accidents. I'm not saying that makes them OK, nor would anybody, but to suggest that anyone involved selfishly ignored this horrible breakdown is simply inaccurate and unfair. I spoke to one of the trainers from the race less than two hours after the race and the very first thing he said was how terrible he felt about what happened. He is the rule and not the exception.

It is unfair to criticize horse racing without spending time on the backstretch of any racetrack to see first hand the love and devotion, as well as complete dedication, that many have for these fine animals. I'm not naive, and wouldn't suggest that everything that happens is pure and wonderful, but there is a great deal of beauty that most people never see.

g under p

My boss owns thoroughbreds race horses and his wife wanted some inside info on who to bet so I called up his trainer back in Maryland. I talked to him and he told me #1 Big Brown #2 The Philly, he couldn't remember the name he even liked her to win and #3 Pyro or something like that.

I think she won money but I would've preferred that Philly survived that race. I seen these race horses up close in training the stresses they go through on their ankles is beyond tremendous.

I didn't see it but I know it was sad I can feel it. We'll be back in MD as we leave Florida for the Preakness and he might have a horse running in it.

Peace

binauralsounds

the little guy wrote:

Anyone celebrating did so before they realized what happened to Eight Belles. It was a horrible juxtaposition of exhilaration and tragedy. Nobody involved in the game is hardened against what happened today and shed many tears for racetrack accidents. I'm not saying that makes them OK, nor would anybody, but to suggest that anyone involved selfishly ignored this horrible breakdown is simply inaccurate and unfair. I spoke to one of the trainers from the race less than two hours after the race and the very first thing he said was how terrible he felt about what happened. He is the rule and not the exception.

It is unfair to criticize horse racing without spending time on the backstretch of any racetrack to see first hand the love and devotion, as well as complete dedication, that many have for these fine animals. I'm not naive, and wouldn't suggest that everything that happens is pure and wonderful, but there is a great deal of beauty that most people never see.

Well said!!!!!!!!!!

BlackCorduroy

the little guy wrote:

Anyone celebrating did so before they realized what happened to Eight Belles. It was a horrible juxtaposition of exhilaration and tragedy. Nobody involved in the game is hardened against what happened today and shed many tears for racetrack accidents. I'm not saying that makes them OK, nor would anybody, but to suggest that anyone involved selfishly ignored this horrible breakdown is simply inaccurate and unfair. I spoke to one of the trainers from the race less than two hours after the race and the very first thing he said was how terrible he felt about what happened. He is the rule and not the exception.

It is unfair to criticize horse racing without spending time on the backstretch of any racetrack to see first hand the love and devotion, as well as complete dedication, that many have for these fine animals. I'm not naive, and wouldn't suggest that everything that happens is pure and wonderful, but there is a great deal of beauty that most people never see.

I understand, thank you for at least being polite. When I posted this, it was only a half hour or so after the event. I was upset and just posting what I gathered from what they showed on TV which was the people that won not seeming to care that much.

South of Seattle

PETA strikes again


NORFOLK, Va. (AP) -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is seeking the suspension of Eight Belles' jockey after the filly had to be euthanized following her second-place finish in the Kentucky Derby on Saturday.

Gabriel Saez was riding Eight Belles when she broke both front ankles while galloping out a quarter of a mile past the wire. She was euthanized on the track.

PETA faxed a letter Sunday to Kentucky's racing authority claiming the filly was "doubtlessly injured before the finish" and asked that Saez be suspended while Eight Belles' death is investigated.

"What we really want to know, did he feel anything along the way?" PETA spokeswoman Kathy Guillermo said. "If he didn't then we can probably blame the fact that they're allowed to whip the horses mercilessly."

Eight Belles trainer Larry Jones said the filly was clearly happy when she crossed the finish line.

"I don't know how in the heck they can even come close to saying that," Jones told The Associated Press on Sunday. "She has her ears up, clearly galloping out."

Guillermo said if Saez is found at fault, the group wants the second-place prize of $400,000 won by Eight Belles to be revoked.

Saez, a 20-year-old Panama native, was riding in his first Kentucky Derby. He frequently rides for Jones.

A call to the jockeys' room at Delaware Park, where Saez raced on Sunday, went unanswered.

Eight Belles, the first filly since 1999 to run in the Derby, appeared fine until collapsing while galloping out after the finish.

The letter to the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority also sought a ban on whipping, limits on races and the age of racehorses, and a move to softer, artificial surfaces for all courses.

pjhawks

gobrowns19 wrote:

Born to run? They are born, brought into the world, to run? Great logic. Just like people are born to be taken advantage of, to be slaves?

actually they are - they are bred for this purpose. without the horse racing industry these thoroughbreads would never ever be born. They are bred specifically for this purpose. Do you know how many horse races took place in the US alone on saturday? There were thousands of horses who raced on saturday, one died on tv. Give me a break - a copy in Philly was shot to death on sunday yet there is no thread on that - just a thread about a horse dying doing what he was bred to do. I't sad don't get me wrong - but its not the end of the world - there are a hell of lot worse atrocities taking place.

Also I love the starter of this thread - let's bitch about horse racing and the horse dying but clearly he was watching it since he commented on the crowds reaction. What a hypocrite.

rhinomagic

Sad news.

I missed the race, but still think it is a great sport to watch.

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Strangest Tribe

rhinomagic wrote:

Sad news.

I missed the race, but still think it is a great sport to watch.

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It's not a sport.

tybird

Strangest Tribe wrote:

It's not a sport.

Yes, it is.