Kentucky Derby
BlackCorduroy
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It's so sad to see a horse die as thousands of people scream and cheer over money :(
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EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
it was after the race had finished. the horses were all trying to slow down, and Eight Belles collapsed as she was trying to stop. She broke her two front ankles and with such a compound fracture the vets who arrived on the scene decided to quickly euthanize the horse. so sad :( but it had to be done.
♬♪♫ and I will not, grow tired of crayon stars and fire
♬♪♫ cause a soldier's death is so much better than defeat just hanging around
I just read up on it. To be honest, I cannot watch horse racing. I always associate it with greyhound racing, which is a sport that I have read way to much about to be able to stomach watching. Knowing the stories, and doing some volunteering with greyhound rescue, and how sweet the dogs are.... I project the same onto horse racing.
Lots of tragedies happen at these things. The worst of it (atleast with dog racing) happens off the track. I know horse racing is held in much higher regard....and hopefully rightly so
Poor filly :(
In a "stud-dominated" field of racehorses, it is truly sad to hear about the loss of this glorious filly.
I have two horses (NOT racehorses!)..... this news breaks my heart.
i feel bad for her.
now im depressed.
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Most ridiculous statement i've ever read. Incredible................
After people found out they were DEVASTATED!!!!!!!!!
You have absolutely no clue on earth about what you speak!
Take it from one that lives 5 minutes from Churchill Downs.
A VERY SAD day!!!!!!
And I know people say the crops don't bother the horses, but I wouldn't like to spend the last 2 minutes of my life with a man on my back whipping me with a stick.. :(
That's a good point you made and it got me thinking about Michael Vick's dogfighting situation. I know that horse-racing is MUCH MUCH better condition and more cared for but you still have to think if there's a double standard between them.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
Newsflash.... Horses are BORN TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!! RUN RUN RUN....
Do research and see how many horses have these types of horrific injuries in races...
Holy shit...can you relax and not attack me? No, I don't live 5 minutes away..but from what I saw on TV...after it was announced that Eight Belles died, they were interviewing 5 or 6 CEO's and Big Brown's owners... and only 1 even mentioned their sympathy for Eight Belles.
You didn't have to be a jerk to me..
and yes... i know these accidents are rare. but if happens enough and that doesn't change the way I feel about it
Attack you? Be a jerk to you? Don't make idiotic statements and imply people were cheering due to greed over a horses death. Don't "ASSUME"
It's a very sad day!!
huh? I was pretty much just talking about the owners of big brown and people interviewed after the race..from what I saw these people cared about nothing other than their horse winning. I guess it's possible that they didn't know about it at that point, but it was long enough after that I would think they have heard.
guess i should have been more clear on "people"... still, what you said was pretty unnecessary and rude
I believe even one jockey fell of his horse before the race started as well.
So based on what I saw, it does seem like the commentators and reporters are trying to hinder some of the more uncomfortable situations.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
I won't continue this any longer, but they were very troubled and sad. I watched the post race press conference and they were saddened.
Also your initial statement implied it was sad as thousands cheered over money, then you switched your tune to the owners of the winner. anyhooo...
have a good day
That's not a newsflash...I actually rode (not raced) horses for years. And I realize they are born to run.. but like this?..
edit- Fine, my bad over the thousands, but that's what I gatehred from TV
I hate the "born to run" idealizations... Yes, they were born to run, but it dosn't make how humans manipulate them correct...its all about the money.
But then I hear that excuse all the time about greyhounds.
Thank you, very much agreed
Born to run? They are born, brought into the world, to run? Great logic. Just like people are born to be taken advantage of, to be slaves?
It is unfair to criticize horse racing without spending time on the backstretch of any racetrack to see first hand the love and devotion, as well as complete dedication, that many have for these fine animals. I'm not naive, and wouldn't suggest that everything that happens is pure and wonderful, but there is a great deal of beauty that most people never see.
I think she won money but I would've preferred that Philly survived that race. I seen these race horses up close in training the stresses they go through on their ankles is beyond tremendous.
I didn't see it but I know it was sad I can feel it. We'll be back in MD as we leave Florida for the Preakness and he might have a horse running in it.
Peace
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Well said!!!!!!!!!!
I understand, thank you for at least being polite. When I posted this, it was only a half hour or so after the event. I was upset and just posting what I gathered from what they showed on TV which was the people that won not seeming to care that much.
NORFOLK, Va. (AP) -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is seeking the suspension of Eight Belles' jockey after the filly had to be euthanized following her second-place finish in the Kentucky Derby on Saturday.
Gabriel Saez was riding Eight Belles when she broke both front ankles while galloping out a quarter of a mile past the wire. She was euthanized on the track.
PETA faxed a letter Sunday to Kentucky's racing authority claiming the filly was "doubtlessly injured before the finish" and asked that Saez be suspended while Eight Belles' death is investigated.
"What we really want to know, did he feel anything along the way?" PETA spokeswoman Kathy Guillermo said. "If he didn't then we can probably blame the fact that they're allowed to whip the horses mercilessly."
Eight Belles trainer Larry Jones said the filly was clearly happy when she crossed the finish line.
"I don't know how in the heck they can even come close to saying that," Jones told The Associated Press on Sunday. "She has her ears up, clearly galloping out."
Guillermo said if Saez is found at fault, the group wants the second-place prize of $400,000 won by Eight Belles to be revoked.
Saez, a 20-year-old Panama native, was riding in his first Kentucky Derby. He frequently rides for Jones.
A call to the jockeys' room at Delaware Park, where Saez raced on Sunday, went unanswered.
Eight Belles, the first filly since 1999 to run in the Derby, appeared fine until collapsing while galloping out after the finish.
The letter to the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority also sought a ban on whipping, limits on races and the age of racehorses, and a move to softer, artificial surfaces for all courses.
actually they are - they are bred for this purpose. without the horse racing industry these thoroughbreads would never ever be born. They are bred specifically for this purpose. Do you know how many horse races took place in the US alone on saturday? There were thousands of horses who raced on saturday, one died on tv. Give me a break - a copy in Philly was shot to death on sunday yet there is no thread on that - just a thread about a horse dying doing what he was bred to do. I't sad don't get me wrong - but its not the end of the world - there are a hell of lot worse atrocities taking place.
Also I love the starter of this thread - let's bitch about horse racing and the horse dying but clearly he was watching it since he commented on the crowds reaction. What a hypocrite.