Spiderman 4

stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
edited September 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
looks like the Lizards finally gonna get his due and so is Carnage, but Marvel just pushed it to 2011 instead of next yr or 2010 :(



possible Black Cat intro but what I dont get is..how are they gonna pull of the whole Eddie Brock/Venom in jail thing after they killed him off in Spidey 3?


EDIT!!-Oopss..wrong link guys, sorry
heres the confirmation deetroitb-ball:

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/05/05/spider-man-4-villains-will-be-carnage-and-lizard-source-says/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0948470/
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Thumbs up for the Lizard and the Black Cat....not so wild about Carnage. If done correctly, one villain should be enough.
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  • old comic book rule if there isnt a body they arent dead. so venom didnt die in spiderman 3...

    carnage!!!!!!!!!!!!! my favorite villian. and lizard will be cool cause he's an old friend of peter's. something spiderman 3 was missing. spiderman wasnt faced with having to fight friends. he never knew sandman, and didnt even like eddie.

    and if there is black cat looks like things with mj arent gonna be going so well....
  • Slip KidSlip Kid Posts: 1,175
    how they did Venom was totally totally stupid.

    I have a feeling they're gonna fuck up Carnage as well

    Spiderman movies are going down ...
    I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    Slip Kid wrote:
    how they did Venom was totally totally stupid.

    I have a feeling they're gonna fuck up Carnage as well

    Spiderman movies are going down ...
    yea they should left sandman for another sequel and just focus on Harry/Goblin and Venom. TEN minutes of venom??? that was bullshit

    Keeping my fingers crossed on this one and hope Venom comes back in a part 5 or 6. If done right like this could be good! MJ/Dunst sucked anyways. I could of given you so many more hotties that could of played her part better, so Im down with some new eye candy...any suggestions who would be a good Black Cat and what about Carnage..trying to think who would play his role to the tee
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  • 3rd movie was terrible. Tried to do too much without much development. Although they continue to do well in keeping him nerdy. Not looking forward to this one especially since they continue to add more than one villain at a time.

    Edit: Where's the confirmation for this info?
  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    3rd movie was terrible. Tried to do too much without much development. Although they continue to do well in keeping him nerdy. Not looking forward to this one especially since they continue to add more than one villain at a time.

    Edit: Where's the confirmation for this info?
    you know what I think it is tho, is that the Marvel Universe is so huge and that they cant keep making movies like they make comics every week or 2 so they try to squeeze in and satisfy every fans needs and requests..same thing with Wolverine..just found out that even Emma Frost is in it and a young Cyclops with possible other cameos (Agent Zero I heard and a few others)


    So I edited for the confirmation info for you bro...sorry I pasted the wrong link
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  • mdigenakismdigenakis Posts: 1,337
    They should keep pushing the release date because it's going to suck donkey sack.
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    mdigenakis wrote:
    They should keep pushing the release date because it's going to suck donkey sack.
    I hope not...still no word on wether any of the originals are coming back including Raimi as director. Parkers gonna have to start getting a lil older so I wouldnt mind Maguire not coming back
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  • Who will play spider-man? Isn't Toby Mcguire getting too old for the role? He's 33 probably will be 34 by the time they film. Isn't spider-man supposed to be a young adult?
  • mdigenakis wrote:
    They should keep pushing the release date because it's going to suck donkey sack.

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  • stickboy wrote:
    I hope not...still no word on wether any of the originals are coming back including Raimi as director.

    The third film was so so awful. If there's going to be a fourth, please let there be someone other than Raimi at the helm. It was shocking how bad 3 was compared to the first two. I couldn't believe they were directed by the same person. And for me it ties into what Danny Elman had said:

    "I've known Sam [Raimi] for almost 15 years. Spider-Man 2 was my fifth movie with him and all I can say is that the person who was there at the end of Spider-Man 2 was not Sam. I don't know who it was, but it wasn't Sam. It was as close to living out Invasion of the Body Snatchers as I've ever experienced. To see such a profound negative change in a human being was almost enough to make me feel like I didn't want to make films anymore. It was really disheartening and sad to see the way it ended up."
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    The third film was so so awful. If there's going to be a fourth, please let there be someone other than Raimi at the helm. It was shocking how bad 3 was compared to the first two. I couldn't believe they were directed by the same person. And for me it ties into what Danny Elman had said:

    "I've known Sam [Raimi] for almost 15 years. Spider-Man 2 was my fifth movie with him and all I can say is that the person who was there at the end of Spider-Man 2 was not Sam. I don't know who it was, but it wasn't Sam. It was as close to living out Invasion of the Body Snatchers as I've ever experienced. To see such a profound negative change in a human being was almost enough to make me feel like I didn't want to make films anymore. It was really disheartening and sad to see the way it ended up."
    damn :eek:
    I never knew about that comment from Elfman. Theres a lot of people who feel Raimi should back off and leave it to someone else this time.

    and whatever happened to the whole Secret Wars prelude that was supposed to happen with Spidey 3..that was the word back in the production days..we got the black suit but that was it
    man I shoulda written that script for part 3...everybody woulda loved it ;)
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  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    I would be very skeptical to see this movie after watching the Dark Knight...everything from this moment on will be compared to that...bring on the WATCHMEN!
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  • schmoffschmoff Posts: 428
    wanna be in spider-man 4?
    here's your chance:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Spider-Man-4-Premiere-Meet-Greets-Walk-On-More_W0QQitemZ180282289817QQihZ008QQcategoryZ16071QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262


    FYI - i was on set one day for the shooting of the first movie, it was very cool
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    schmoff wrote:
    wanna be in spider-man 4?
    here's your chance:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Spider-Man-4-Premiere-Meet-Greets-Walk-On-More_W0QQitemZ180282289817QQihZ008QQcategoryZ16071QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262


    FYI - i was on set one day for the shooting of the first movie, it was very cool
    bro I just missed it...my people were telling me about it when I lived in woodside for 2-3 yrs, but work killed that for me :(

    maybe I'll try out for this one ;) thanx
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    petrocs wrote:
    I would be very skeptical to see this movie after watching the Dark Knight...everything from this moment on will be compared to that...bring on the WATCHMEN!
    well by that time there might be another Dark Knight sequel so who knows

    everythings gotta be darker now :rolleyes: thats what DC is saying about re doing the new Superman. They tried the Darker route in Spidey 3 with the suit thing..it sucked!
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  • schmoffschmoff Posts: 428
    a family member is a union guy that drives the actors and such around, i got a pass for the day while they shot in the city, i still have the spidey pass and landyard that says crew on it, its very cool
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    schmoff wrote:
    a family member is a union guy that drives the actors and such around, i got a pass for the day while they shot in the city, i still have the spidey pass and landyard that says crew on it, its very cool
    good shit! I remember the Post and Daily news posting updates and pics leading up to the release of spidey 1. Matter of fact someone had stolen a buncha spidey suits back then no?

    let me know whats good man for the next filming, like location and stuff. I'd be down to just sit back and watch them film for a day.
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  • jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    whatever....let's just pray thay Kirsten is playing MJ gain :o


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  • My Spiderman nerd-dom isn't as big as my Batman one, but isn't Gwen Stacy the Black Cat? Or is she just there for a love triangle? I do know that the Lizard is his one-armed professor from Spidy 2.

    If they do Carnage they'd have to do it right and make it rated R and they'll never do that so I'd rather they just don't even try having him.
  • PaukPauk Posts: 1,084
    Sam Raimi should never have put Venom in Spiderman 3. He said many a time he hates the symbiote storylines, and it kinda showed in 3. Venom was little more than a throw away enemy. Carnage could be done alright, but not with Raimi. Even if Raimi wasn't onboard I feel like it'll kinda be let down by the poor introduction Venom got in 3. I agree with NothingSound, a PG-13 Carnage would more than likely suck.


    This is probably the do or die for Spiderman franchise. 3 made a total joke out of a series that looked like it could possibly have some longevity.
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  • schmoffschmoff Posts: 428
    My Spiderman nerd-dom isn't as big as my Batman one, but isn't Gwen Stacy the Black Cat? Or is she just there for a love triangle? I do know that the Lizard is his one-armed professor from Spidy 2.

    If they do Carnage they'd have to do it right and make it rated R and they'll never do that so I'd rather they just don't even try having him.


    gwen stacy = not the black cat
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    schmoff wrote:
    gwen stacy = not the black cat
    gwen stacy = not the black cat = Black Cat = Felica Hardy = the same hair color as Gwen
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    fowls wrote:
    Sam Raimi should never have put Venom in Spiderman 3. He said many a time he hates the symbiote storylines, and it kinda showed in 3. Venom was little more than a throw away enemy. Carnage could be done alright, but not with Raimi. Even if Raimi wasn't onboard I feel like it'll kinda be let down by the poor introduction Venom got in 3. I agree with NothingSound, a PG-13 Carnage would more than likely suck.


    This is probably the do or die for Spiderman franchise. 3 made a total joke out of a series that looked like it could possibly have some longevity.
    The whole Sandman villain killed it..if it was just venom and fine I'll throw in Baby Goblin Harry in the mix it woulda been fine. Sandman was so pointless

    and the ending I man come on...saturday morning cartoon style

    what'd venom write in the web?
    "Come and catch us if you can SPiderman?"


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  • i dont see why it would have to be r-rated for carnage. i dont remember a single spider-man comic that wasnt rated for kids, am i missing something?

    and i have to wonder if they will do carnage the old school way, or maybe the ulitmate spider-man carnage. i really didnt like what they did with carnage in ultimate spider-man, but all the marvel movies seem to lean more towards the ulitmate universe, rather than the original.
  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    man theres so many other movies that push the envelope at a PG-13 rating with cursing and violence and even some nudity that it shouldn't even phase them thru the making of this movie.
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  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    fowls wrote:
    Sam Raimi should never have put Venom in Spiderman 3. He said many a time he hates the symbiote storylines, and it kinda showed in 3. Venom was little more than a throw away enemy. Carnage could be done alright, but not with Raimi. Even if Raimi wasn't onboard I feel like it'll kinda be let down by the poor introduction Venom got in 3. I agree with NothingSound, a PG-13 Carnage would more than likely suck.


    This is probably the do or die for Spiderman franchise. 3 made a total joke out of a series that looked like it could possibly have some longevity.


    Spidey will never go 'R'...it's too kid friendly of a franchise/hero

    i tried to watch Spidey 3 and i got about 45 min into it and that was it....

    booooooooooooo


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  • gobrowns19gobrowns19 Posts: 1,447
    fowls wrote:
    Sam Raimi should never have put Venom in Spiderman 3. He said many a time he hates the symbiote storylines, and it kinda showed in 3. Venom was little more than a throw away enemy. Carnage could be done alright, but not with Raimi. Even if Raimi wasn't onboard I feel like it'll kinda be let down by the poor introduction Venom got in 3. I agree with NothingSound, a PG-13 Carnage would more than likely suck.


    This is probably the do or die for Spiderman franchise. 3 made a total joke out of a series that looked like it could possibly have some longevity.

    See that figures, the symbiote was always my favorite.

    It has been so long since I watched the cartoons or read any books, but wasn't there a while when Parker was a giant spider? At least they didn't include that haha.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    who gives a shit, spiderman 3 sucked.
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