18 years old...

SomethingCreative

That's how old my sister's friend (like a sister to me) was when she died last night after crashing into a tree. We had a little ceremony thing at the high school earlier everyone is devastated. This is fucked...the class of 2008 at their school has lost three kids this year.

I think I'm going to talk to school principle about playing "Its Ok" at their senior banquet tomorrow night

triangleman12

My thoughts and prayers are with you fellow PJ fan. I lost my sister at the age of 26 last April (killed by a drunk driver) Based on my own experience, it's going to get worse before it gets better, and not sure if it ever "trully" gets better. One day at a time . . . my condolences :(

Abookamongstthemany

Oh, that's incredibly sad, especially being very young like that. I'm so sorry for you and your sister and all of those close to her. It's always to hard to come to terms with tragic events like this where a close friend/loved one is just snatched away forever out of nowhere and you have to deal with all these emotions rushing in at the same time. There's just no way to make sense out of it. Coping with these things is never easy...I'm sending vibes to hoping you and everyone involved can find a way to cope and let the healing of such a sudden and tragic loss begin.

In My Dreams

Hugs and condolences to you. It's so hard to lose somone, especially so close.

urbanhippie

Such a tragedy :( I am so sorry for your loss.

Sian-of-the-dead

SomethingCreative wrote:

That's how old my sister's friend (like a sister to me) was when she died last night after crashing into a tree. We had a little ceremony thing at the high school earlier everyone is devastated. This is fucked...the class of 2008 at their school has lost three kids this year.

I think I'm going to talk to school principle about playing "Its Ok" at their senior banquet tomorrow night

I'm so very sorry :(

I too lost someone close to me (my brother's best friend, also like a brother to me) in 2000. He was in a car with 4 other 18 year old guys I knew from our college, they crashed into an oncoming lorry. 4 died instantaneously and the other died in hospital 2 days later.
There really are no words to describe the feeling of loss that an accident like this causes, you don't know what to say to anyone about anything. I understand your pain and I can't sympathise enough. 8 years after the event I still think about my friend with fondness and love. I visit his resting place every year without fail and no matter how many tears I shed while i'm there, I always have a smile on my face for him. I hope you and your sister can both eventually, find that peace.

I hope you get your request and It's OK gets played.

urbanhippie

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

I'm so very sorry :(

I too lost someone close to me (my brother's best friend, also like a brother to me) in 2000. He was in a car with 4 other 18 year old guys I knew from our college, they crashed into an oncoming lorry. 4 died instantaneously and the other died in hospital 2 days later.
There really are no words to describe the feeling of loss that an accident like this causes, you don't know what to say to anyone about anything. I understand your pain and I can't sympathise enough. 8 years after the event I still think about my friend with fondness and love. I visit his resting place every year without fail and no matter how many tears I shed while i'm there, I always have a smile on my face for him. I hope you and your sister can both eventually, find that peace.

I hope you get your request and It's OK gets played.

I saw this thread and thought of you. Hope you're ok hun
{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

sponger

A girl I knew died when she was 17 when the car she and her mother was in blew up on the highway. I'm not sure why the car blew up.

She had a reputation for being a slut, so her loss received little attention.

Sian-of-the-dead

sponger wrote:

She had a reputation for being a slut, so her loss received little attention.

I'm not being funny but that statement really wasn't necessary in this thread. The OP has lost someone close to her and wants to discuss it, not read comments like this, they are neither constructive nor supportive.

There's an old saying - If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.

sponger

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

I'm not being funny but that statement really wasn't necessary in this thread. The OP has lost someone close to her and wants to discuss it, not read comments like this, they are neither constructive nor supportive.

There's an old saying - If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.

I think it's pretty obvious that I was merely stating what an awful tragedy it was that people could be so preoccupied by social standing to the point where it precludes the recognition of even the most universal forms of compassion.

If you read into it as though I was making jest at the expense of personal devastation, then perhaps it is a reflection of the shallow depth of your own level of compassion.

Or maybe you're just looking for the opportunity to appear offended as you believe it makes you look dignified.

In any case, your comment, not mine, is the one that is uncalled for and socially inappropriate. Did your parents not teach you any manners when you were growing up?

I'm wondering if I shouldn't buzz the mods so that they make sure you understand for future reference why it is not OK to highjack a someone's thread by making it into your own personal show of indignation.

Linda

Oh my.....i so totally understand how you must feel.......last year we lost a very good friend exactly the same way.......after a night of partying, he and his friends decided to get something to smoke, and the four of them crashed, Willem died, the rest survived .......devastating......hang in there.....

SENROCK

SomethingCreative wrote:

That's how old my sister's friend (like a sister to me) was when she died last night after crashing into a tree. We had a little ceremony thing at the high school earlier everyone is devastated. This is fucked...the class of 2008 at their school has lost three kids this year.

I think I'm going to talk to school principle about playing "Its Ok" at their senior banquet tomorrow night

my big brother was 16 when he decided he would drink then drive him & his frenz to another party. Super exxxtra popular guy and AMAZING and captain of the football team etc. yet not smart enough to think before he got in the car to drive. a few minutes later, he died. :mad:

Sian-of-the-dead

sponger wrote:

I think it's pretty obvious that I was merely stating what an awful tragedy it was that people could be so preoccupied by social standing to the point where it precludes the recognition of even the most universal forms of compassion.

If you read into it as though I was making jest at the expense of personal devastation, then perhaps it is a reflection of the shallow depth of your own level of compassion.

Or maybe you're just looking for the opportunity to appear offended as you believe it makes you look dignified.

In any case, your comment, not mine, is the one that is uncalled for and socially inappropriate. Did your parents not teach you any manners when you were growing up?

I'm wondering if I shouldn't buzz the mods so that they make sure you understand for future reference why it is not OK to highjack a someone's thread by making it into your own personal show of indignation.

If it was so obvious, I would've spotted it.
How dare you question the level of my compassion? Being someone who suffered the same tragedy 8 years ago, I believe your post was uncalled for and inapproriate. The original post was highlighting tragedy, yes, not the social standing of victims of car accidents.
I can see the point you were trying to make but I believe you post could have been put in a more appropriate manner. It was very sweeping and rather callous. My parents and my upbringing have nothing to do with it, I was merely showing that I understood the loss she is feeling and that I sympathise with her.
I posted, what I thought to be a supportive and positive post. I don't believe I deserved that personal attack and infact you yourself have showed a shallow level of compassion.
Please do get in touch with the mods, I'm sure they'd love to know how when someone requests support during their grief you post a blind statement about someone being a seen as a 'slut'.

I will not argue with you. I'm here to show the OP support in this seemingly pointless tragedy, as you should be.

End of discussion.

urbanhippie

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

If it was so obvious, I would've spotted it.
How dare you question the level of my compassion? Being someone who suffered the same tragedy 8 years ago, I believe your post was uncalled for and inapproriate. The original post was highlighting tragedy, yes, not the social standing of victims of car accidents.
I can see the point you were trying to make but I believe you post could have been put in a more appropriate manner. It was very sweeping and rather callous. My parents and my upbringing have nothing to do with it, I was merely showing that I understood the loss she is feeling and that I sympathise with her.
I posted, what I thought to be a supportive and positive post. I don't believe I deserved that personal attack and infact you yourself have showed a shallow level of compassion.
Please do get in touch with the mods, I'm sure they'd love to know how when someone requests support during their grief you post a blind statement about someone being a seen as a 'slut'.

I will not argue with you. I'm here to show the OP support in this seemingly pointless tragedy, as you should be.

End of discussion.

A dignified response Sian.

Sponger, I also thought your initial post was unnecessary and possibly upsetting to the OP.

You've clarified your meaning, and thank you. However it was not clear from your first post that you were commenting on societys reaction to grief. You came across as cold and rather callous. I understand this wasn't your intention.
I also feel that launching personal attacks on peoples upbringing is unnecessary.

chadwick

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Sm2bFS_Ms

catefrances

i got it sponger.

Collin

I'm very sorry.

PJaddicted

So very sorry....it is never easy when one so young leaves you. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

oxc

libragirl

That is very sad. My condolences to you and your sister. A friend of mine was killed in a car accident right after we graduated from Highschool. I often think about what he would be doing if he were still alive.

Again, Im very sorry for your loss.

SomethingCreative

chadwick wrote:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=I-Sm2bFS_Ms

thanks for posting that...it lead me to a clip of "Its ok" by itself...so I just posted it on a bunch of my sister and her friends myspace pages in case they don't play it tonight.

thanks to everyone else as well

writersu

SomethingCreative wrote:

That's how old my sister's friend (like a sister to me) was when she died last night after crashing into a tree. We had a little ceremony thing at the high school earlier everyone is devastated. This is fucked...the class of 2008 at their school has lost three kids this year.

I think I'm going to talk to school principle about playing "Its Ok" at their senior banquet tomorrow night

oh, something creative, I am heartbroken and crying right now. My son is 17 and graduating h.s. this weekend and i am so overwhelmed just thinking about this friend of your sister's and the grief everyone must feel.

no words can even help this. please accept my hugs to all..........

writersu

sponger wrote:

A girl I knew died when she was 17 when the car she and her mother was in blew up on the highway. I'm not sure why the car blew up.

She had a reputation for being a slut, so her loss received little attention.

that's so messed up. every life starts out a blessing usually. no less tears are lost over someone's untimely death...........

EvilMerlin

SomethingCreative wrote:

That's how old my sister's friend (like a sister to me) was when she died last night after crashing into a tree. We had a little ceremony thing at the high school earlier everyone is devastated. This is fucked...the class of 2008 at their school has lost three kids this year.

I think I'm going to talk to school principle about playing "Its Ok" at their senior banquet tomorrow night

I'm sorry you're going through that. It's never easy. I lost two teammates I grew up with my senior year in a car crash. Always talking about what we'd go on to do that summer, and go play college ball together. On and on, and then everything is cut short. It happens, and that's why we can't take any day for granted anymore.

Be strong, and I wish you the best in the coming weeks. Those are the hardest. Remember the best.

Byrnzie

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

If it was so obvious, I would've spotted it.

It seemed obvious to me.

PureandEasy

So sorry for your loss and for all of those who posted about losing someone in this thread.

Not that drunk driving had anything to do with this particular instance, but anyone who reads the story I'm posting and even CONSIDERS getting behind the wheel after drinking . . .

caution; this is a VERY, VERY DISTURBING story. I almost couldn't get through it.

hopefully posting it here will make someone think twice

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/05/29/o.lifesaving.lesson/index.html

decides2dream

how utterly tragic. my heart goes out to you, her family and friends....


i hope you get your request.

HermanBloom

This is terribly sad; tragic so young. This is why we need tougher laws and restrictions for young drivers.

Fighting Hellfish

This has been happening seemingly all the time where I live (Long Island) There are fatal accidents with high schoolers behind the wheel on the cover of the paper way too often.

NY PJ1

PureandEasy wrote:

So sorry for your loss and for all of those who posted about losing someone in this thread.

Not that drunk driving had anything to do with this particular instance, but anyone who reads the story I'm posting and even CONSIDERS getting behind the wheel after drinking . . .

caution; this is a VERY, VERY DISTURBING story. I almost couldn't get through it.

hopefully posting it here will make someone think twice

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/05/29/o.lifesaving.lesson/index.html

i remember this story

crazy my biggest pet peeve,,drunk driving


sorry for your loss

Ledbetterman10

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

I hope you get your request and It's OK gets played.

dude, don't

in_hiding79

sponger wrote:

I think it's pretty obvious that I was merely stating what an awful tragedy it was that people could be so preoccupied by social standing to the point where it precludes the recognition of even the most universal forms of compassion.

If you read into it as though I was making jest at the expense of personal devastation, then perhaps it is a reflection of the shallow depth of your own level of compassion.

Or maybe you're just looking for the opportunity to appear offended as you believe it makes you look dignified.

In any case, your comment, not mine, is the one that is uncalled for and socially inappropriate. Did your parents not teach you any manners when you were growing up?


I'm wondering if I shouldn't buzz the mods so that they make sure you understand for future reference why it is not OK to highjack a someone's thread by making it into your own personal show of indignation.

For the record sponger, I totally knew what you were saying!!
It's a tragedy in any case!