OU on to national title

Commy

Texas is whining because they claim they beat OU in a head to head game, so how can OU be ranked above them? That's fine, if you ignore Tech's win over Texas. All 3 teams are 11-1. All 3 teams are 11-1 in the conference. If you put Texas over OU because of the head to head game you put Tech over Texas because Tech beat them.

And don't forget OU beat Tech by 44 points.



GO SOONERS!!!!!!

stylo17

so will Texas play in the national title if Missouri beats Oklahoma?

Commy

maybe. It depends on the rankings, but I think they would.

We don't like to think about that scenario

smg9779

If Alabama beats Florida and Mizzou can beat Oklahoma, it should be Alabama vs USC in the title game. Florida, Oklahoma and Texas will not be conference champions in this scenario so how can you justify putting either of them in the title game? USC has to beat UCLA of course.

Commy

USC has a case. I just can't see them putting USC above Texas. I am biased, but it just seems the Big 12 has so much more talent than the Pac 10.

Texas lost to Texas Tech, ranked 7th now, and USC lost to Oregon State, who then got KILLED by Oregon. Just based on their schedules I think you have to go with Texas over USC.

Wobbie

Commy wrote:

Texas is whining because they claim they beat OU in a head to head game, so how can OU be ranked above them? That's fine, if you ignore Tech's win over Texas. All 3 teams are 11-1. All 3 teams are 11-1 in the conference. If you put Texas over OU because of the head to head game you put Tech over Texas because Tech beat them.

And don't forget OU beat Tech by 44 points.



GO SOONERS!!!!!!

I think you're just trying to stir shit!

Commy

imalive wrote:

I think you're just trying to stir shit!

lol. Sorry I've been reading whining Texas fans complain for the last hour or so.

mca47

Yet another reason for a playoff system...

Commy

true.



best case scenario would have been if Florida lost last week, only to win the SEC, so Texas-OU could fight it out int the national title.

I agree, playoffs are the way to go.

Commy

even though the computers aren't biased and got it right.

pjhawks

just because they are whining doesn't mean they aren't correct. College football is a fucking joke. It's a shame because it's great to watch and all but the end is a complete and utter joke.

mca47

pjhawks wrote:

just because they are whining doesn't mean they aren't correct. College football is a fucking joke. It's a shame because it's great to watch and all but the end is a complete and utter joke.

College football is greater (IMO) in almost every way to any professional sport.

But you are right, come the end of the year it is a complete joke. We go through this every damn year, and it is soooooo dumb.

They NEED a playoff system!

I know it would be tough to put in, but right now most BigTen teams have a full month off before their next (bowl) game. So timing isn't exactly the most constraining issue as most teams could get in 4 games in this time. Clearly it comes down to the corporations that have the deep pockets that support these bowls, and the schools that absorb the huge amounts of money going into their program.

To hell with the BCS!

petrocs

mca47 wrote:

College football is greater (IMO) in almost every way to any professional sport.

But you are right, come the end of the year it is a complete joke. We go through this every damn year, and it is soooooo dumb.

They NEED a playoff system!

I know it would be tough to put in, but right now most BigTen teams have a full month off before their next (bowl) game. So timing isn't exactly the most constraining issue as most teams could get in 4 games in this time. Clearly it comes down to the corporations that have the deep pockets that support these bowls, and the schools that absorb the huge amounts of money going into their program.

To hell with the BCS!

why cant every bowl game be a round and each team who makes a bowl game has a chance to win the national championship!

unifiedscene

mca47 wrote:

College football is greater (IMO) in almost every way to any professional sport.

But you are right, come the end of the year it is a complete joke. We go through this every damn year, and it is soooooo dumb.

They NEED a playoff system!

I know it would be tough to put in, but right now most BigTen teams have a full month off before their next (bowl) game. So timing isn't exactly the most constraining issue as most teams could get in 4 games in this time. Clearly it comes down to the corporations that have the deep pockets that support these bowls, and the schools that absorb the huge amounts of money going into their program.

To hell with the BCS!

Ohio State had 2 months off before the title game they played against Florida. That's like starting over... playing the first game of the season again. The Big Ten needs to fix their shit and quit with this "done before Thanksgiving" crap.

Over the weekend I realized one thing though. What's the biggest argument FOR the BCS system? This thread. The BCS, love it or hate it, does have every fan constantly talking about college football from about October on. Every week is a cliffhanger and every game potentially cataclysmic for your bowl hopes.

gabers

I hate Texas but I do believe they should be going to the Big 12 title game. They beat OU on a neutral field and both have one loss. Case closed.

However, I find it very interesting how everyone keeps looking over Mizzou. They're obviously not a top five team after their recent performances, but they are capable of beating anyone. And they have played OU well for the most part. I expect a close game. Keep it mind it will also be played at Arrowhead Stadium in KC, which is almost a home game for Mizzou.

Stone Is God

Many other conferences use the BCS rankings to help determine the division champ but they use it in a better way. In a 3 way tie the team with the lowest BCS ranking gets eliminated and the remaining 2 is based off head to head. In this case Texas would be the winner.

Using team A beat team B but lost to team C never works. Texas was one play from making all this null and void. Texas is better because they beat OU on a neutral field.

If Florida wins and OU losses the BCS title game would be Florida vs Texas. USC is to far behind to make up the difference to get to the title game.

mca47

unifiedscene wrote:

Ohio State had 2 months off before the title game they played against Florida. That's like starting over... playing the first game of the season again. The Big Ten needs to fix their shit and quit with this "done before Thanksgiving" crap.

Over the weekend I realized one thing though. What's the biggest argument FOR the BCS system? This thread. The BCS, love it or hate it, does have every fan constantly talking about college football from about October on. Every week is a cliffhanger and every game potentially cataclysmic for your bowl hopes.

Yeah, there is no question that the teams from the Big Ten are at a huge disadvantage by wrapping up their season so early. I'm an Iowa fan and have seen some great teams (Iowa or Big Ten...) finish the year, go to a bowl and look rusty as hell. I understand one of the main reasons they do that is because of winter, but c'mon!! They are shooting themselves in the foot.

I think their is little argument FOR the BCS, but the argument comes not from it's benefit, but from the difficulty in CHANGING it to some sort of playoff system.

If you look at the $, it's easier to see why it hasn't been changed, rather than the logic.

pjhawks

mca47 wrote:

College football is greater (IMO) in almost every way to any professional sport.

But you are right, come the end of the year it is a complete joke. We go through this every damn year, and it is soooooo dumb.

They NEED a playoff system!

I know it would be tough to put in, but right now most BigTen teams have a full month off before their next (bowl) game. So timing isn't exactly the most constraining issue as most teams could get in 4 games in this time. Clearly it comes down to the corporations that have the deep pockets that support these bowls, and the schools that absorb the huge amounts of money going into their program.

To hell with the BCS!

agreed - my favorite sport by far is college basketball - college football if it had a playoff would be amazing - this system just sucks. it sucks the life out of the season except for like 2 or 3 teams. It totally sucks that a Penn State has no chance because other people think they aren't as good as the other 1 loss teams (i am not saying they are, just that the system says they aren't). it's insane and until someone (Obama?,TV forces a change it is what we have. It's just funny to hear the apologists trying to lobby for why it is good. just awful.

CServant

This is why the BCS is a joke!!! In my book, it's between Alabama, Utah, Boise State, and Ball State. They are the only undefeated teams left and beat everyone they played. And don't give me this BCS Conference crap! It's not like OU, TX, USC, FLA, couldn't schedule these teams instead of Akron State every year.
If you're not going to have a playoff, at least do it by record. That would make the non-conference schedules interesting. USC and FLA both lost to teams that couldn't win the WAC, Conference USA, or the Mtn West!

Porchsitter

CServant wrote:

If you're not going to have a playoff, at least do it by record.

If they went by this criteria, Hawaii would've been playing for the National Championship. That would've been worse than what we got.

deadnothingbetter

Commy wrote:

Texas is whining because they claim they beat OU in a head to head game, so how can OU be ranked above them? That's fine, if you ignore Tech's win over Texas. All 3 teams are 11-1. All 3 teams are 11-1 in the conference. If you put Texas over OU because of the head to head game you put Tech over Texas because Tech beat them.

And don't forget OU beat Tech by 44 points.



GO SOONERS!!!!!!

you're just talking like a homer... in ways that completely favor your team only. truth is, no one here in austin is whining... it's the media overhyping it. and we fans simply think the system is anything but fair for the entire college football. cause if you really think about it... out of those 3 teams who had the worse loss?

texas tech, obviously... losing by 44 points.
then ou losing by 10.
texas lost only by 6 points... a game which they could've won had they not dropped that interception.

given, ou was beating teams by scoring 60+ points. it's ridiculous that the computer is deciding who goes and who doesn't. because for retarded reasons, "the computer is not biased." of course not motherlicker!

were ou and texas to play 4 times and would texas beat them all those 4 times would ou still be better than texas beacuse of the computer rankings? how unfair was it for texas that after being no. 2 had ou lost they still would be dropped because of the head-to-head loss to texas tech, thus sending texas tech to the bcs title. and if ou would have won texas would've still been eliminated from the title.... because oh for whatever reason now the head-to-head win over the sooners doesn't matter. now the rankings matter. makes no sense. and all for a loss by a measly of 6 points.

it's true ou is a good team and they were dominating a little better. so was texas tech... simply put, system was not fair for either team. and not for ou either.