me, i'd rather live past the age of 30. how old was he? 23 - 24? no thanks. i say this as someone turning 39 in less than a month, i FAr prefer having my LIFe, than a movie made about me, nor a soundtrack by ed. i am not saying anything negative about chris, but yea...i think even HE would probably prefer being alive. besides, when i am dead...i am dead...so how would i know or care that a movie/book/soundtrack ws made based on my life?
seriously. i'm not saying i would do it either but there's something cool about having your life-your story- live on for eternity. the same way writers live on through their words and musicians live on through their music, etc. yeah they're dead but their stories live on and influence people for centuries after they're gone. is it so much worse to die while living out your dream or to live a long life filled with regret? of course it's best to live your dream and live a long life to tell about it and that's what chris would have done if it weren't for a couple crucial mistakes.
sure it is.
i was only pointing out that in chris's case, the ONLY reason it was done, was b/c he died so tragially at such a young age. i'd far rather be famous for something else, if at all. but if my choice is die young and be famous for all eternity...or get to live my life to the fullest and for a much longer time...i'd choose LIFE. that's all.
btw - the 'choices' you offer aren't the only ones. be famous and die young living your dream.......or living long with regret. it's possible to have it ALL, or any mixture of the like, and other choices in there too. just saying that in the case of chris, given THAT choice....no thanks. i want to live my dream AND live for awhile too. and i also think chris would've like that too rather than being simply famous. also, if you are not of the belief that their is an afterlife, or that you would *know* what gos on in this world after death...well then, still...you'd have NO IDEA that your story lived on, especially in this case. it's not like he was already a writer or musician, etc. and we won't know until we're dead as well, so yea....not knowing that, i still rather live.:p
I would give myself a one-year time frame/test. I would get myself flown in by a bush pilot so I could carry in a bit more gear and into a place even more remote than McCandless was.
I think a lot of people are forgetting American history when they read this story. Think of all the pioneers that moved westward during the 18th and 19th centuries and how they had to sustain themselves in just the same way McCandless did. Think of the Alaska gold rush and all the prospectors that laid stake to a claim in places where they had to build little shanties for themselves and live off the land....
I guess what might make this story remarkable is that McCandless did die.
Cree Nations wrote:
Ummmmmmmmm....those "pioneers"as you call them were not alone, the Indians showed them how to survive and live...most of the time. After finding their footing on the landscape, they "thanked" the Indians in their own "special" way.
McCandless never had any "Indians"to help him out because
A) They remembered what happened last time they helped out a few white folks
Most of them were not allowed to leave the reservation.
edit: thats my one nehiyaw rant for the day.
Is something like that "legal"?
Would one be allowed to grab a backpack, hike off in to the "woods" somewhere remote, build a shelter (or find an old bus), and "live off the land"?
Is there still land not "owned" by anyone, or any government?
You've got to live by your wits... and that may include avoiding those (people and/or places) who would object to you being someplace that you may not be wanted.
Anyone ever read "The Last Season"?
Wait a second. I just realized you're from Seattle. You've got that immense wilderness known as the Cascades in your back yard. Are you telling me you don't think you could manage to hide out in someplace like that?
Being that it is the Seattle area....hiking/backpacking/camping is very popular. There aren't many places that don't eventually get treked by numerous people. There are a few places that I'm sure you could go....but they are very remote and would be tough to live, especially the winter months. The Cascade Mountain Range has very harsh witers....and is home to the top 2 World Record annual snow falls in recorded history (of the world).
I'm sure I could get lost for a while, but back country rangers would catch on I think.
Nope. Not I.
It's about a back country ranger, who specialized in search and rescue. He was considered amongst the best at finding people in the world. His job was to live in remote back country for 3 months at a time, patroling the Kings Canyon backcountry. He was getting a little "disgruntled" at the state of world....and was in the midst of a divorce. One day he disappeared while on patrol, never to be seen again, even after a massive search and recue effort. People wonder if he wanted to dissapear and not be found.
well for that matter, even chris mccandless in his true 'into the wild' spot....was found, a mere 2 weeks after his death, by moosehunters. talk about bad timing. so yes, i do agree....there really isn't too many, if ANY, spots left on this earth that have not been traversed. the only tragic part for chris was how often and when.
The pioneers who moved westward would've taken their bank account with them (although the Mormon pioneers would have given 10% to the church), and they didn't need to burn their last remaining cash to prove that they could sustain themselves. They DID prevail. And if they didn't bring their families with them, I'm willing to bet that the Pony Express was in use. "Mom, I went west."
Is that so hard??
Chris McCandless is no more remarkable than the guy who lived down the street from me in Vail 10 years ago and decided he could walk home from the bar one night alone. Six months later they found his remains in a creek. That guy didn't have a movie made about him, and he walked off by himself without enough basic supplies to survive.
say and think what you want about chris, but how many people on this board can say they are going to have a movie made about them after they die? with a soundtrack by eddie vedder no less.
The best thing about going camping in the wilderness...
Coming home, taking a long, hot shower and sleeping in your own bed.
I could never do this. There ain't no girls to scrump with out in the wilderness. Unless you wanna bang an animal.
For the record I'm a bit too busy doing community service (10-15 hours a week) and spending time with my loved ones to be a narcissistic cunt and leave my family with no explanation.
Bathing in a nice clear creek then crawling into a warm sleeping bag can be just as nice.