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Does everything happen for a reason?

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited February 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
I am a believer of this idea.

Anyone else?
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  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle Posts: 10,724
    I believe Anhimus would chime in here. But he has gone the way of the Dodo.

    But to answer you question. I kinda believe in that. I have no way to prove it, so I guess I'll just believe.
    NERDS!
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    I'd love to be able to think that, however...

    ....when shitty things happen to good people and good things happen to shitty people...it makes it really hard to see what the reason may be
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  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    There's a beautiful Buddhist saying that I love and would like to believe its:

    "A Snowflake Never Falls In The Wrong Place"

    I would like to believe everything happens for a reason,it allow's growth and learning,good or bad.
    “There should be a place where only the things you want to happen, happen”
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    completely agree about the bad events part.

    however, in A new Earth by the author of The Power of Now, the author talks about how the all the awful events in the world, wars, death, violence, global warming etc... that confusion and scary and horrifying time, can cause people to find themselves, to start to try and identify their purpose in life. I guess its the idea that scary events cause people to choose sides, it forces them to do something with their life.

    in that way, the world situation as it is, is sickening and makes my stomach queasy, but at the same time, it has forced me to try and find myself, find my purpose, etc...

    interesting thoughts.
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    Good or bad everthing is for a reason...
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    No
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Posts: 12,223
    No, we can shape events with almost frightening randomness.
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    No, we can shape events with almost frightening randomness.

    exactly. there's alot of things that try as i might there just wasn't and will never be any reason for why it happened.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    To a point, you may shape some events to a certain 'conclusion' but I believe the event still happens for a reason.

    For example, you cannot 'shape' say, your partner's death, but how you deal with it and what implications it may have on you and your future life could be the point of the event. Action and reaction.
  • given2fly78given2fly78 Posts: 404
    Yes, I do believe this.

    Good and bad, I think that we're all on the path that we're meant to be on. That doesn't give an excuse for our actions and behaviours. But it means to me that I'm where I'm meant to be. No matter what happens. And I have to believe that there is a reason for it. And through good and bad, I have the strength to deal with it all.
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. "
    Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

    I saw Hard To Imagine LIVE at MSG!
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    prism wrote:
    I'd love to be able to think that, however...

    ....when shitty things happen to good people and good things happen to shitty people...it makes it really hard to see what the reason may be

    Ditto.

    I used to believe everything happened for a reason. I took comfort in this idea when my dad died unexpectedly when I was 17. But...what could possibly be the reason for some of the atrocities that people experience during their lives? Is it to teach them a lesson? To teach the rest of us a lesson? If someone's shitty luck is happening to teach ME a lesson, then that fucking sucks.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    no, i think most things happen by chance or dumb luck. but i also think you can turn something into a reason for something else. i feel like a contradiction becos i can't explain it. im a big fan of a book called 'the alchemist.' it's a very simple story, a parable really. and it made me think. i dont know if id say everything happens for a reason, i think there's often not a lot of sense or reason in what happens. but i DO think that every time a door closes, a window opens somewhere else. i know there's a saying roughly like that. and i believe it. i dont think things happen with the purpose of moving people in particular directions, but i do believe that even terrible blows provide new options.
  • jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    radiohead33 wrote:
    completely agree about the bad events part.

    however, in A new Earth by the author of The Power of Now, the author talks about how the all the awful events in the world, wars, death, violence, global warming etc... that confusion and scary and horrifying time, can cause people to find themselves, to start to try and identify their purpose in life. I guess its the idea that scary events cause people to choose sides, it forces them to do something with their life.

    in that way, the world situation as it is, is sickening and makes my stomach queasy, but at the same time, it has forced me to try and find myself, find my purpose, etc...

    interesting thoughts.

    Can't see it myself.
    Sounds like you, or indeed anyone, re-evaluates after certain events, still don't think that said events took place just so as you, or me or anyone else, could have thoughts about them.
    That make sense ? I suppose what I;m saying is no, I don't believe things happen for a reason, not all things...it's a crazy notion really.
    Here's a recent example...yesterday a local guy, age 55, was going to work on his motorbike, as he's done every day for the last 10 years or so. Happily married, 2 grown up children, respectable, hard working, salt of the earth fella....a lorry pulls out and kills him. What was the reason for that? So that everyone else around here can re-think their lives, lest it happen to them? So the lorry driver can spend the rest of his days in torment, maybe even a few years in jail..?
    Sorry, it was a random event, brought on by human error.....no reason, no point.
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Nope, not everything has an inherent reason for happening, but we have an amazing ability to glean reasons for things happening, and that helps us to piece our lives together meaningfully and fashion a path for ourselves...

    Or something. :D
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • GreenTeaDiseaseGreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    no. my dad is always saying this, and I've always thought he was full of shit.

    saying everything happens for a reason is like saying it's good luck when a bird poops on your head- you're just trying to make someone feel better when something bad happens. It's just a saying, it has no basis in reality.
  • given2fly78given2fly78 Posts: 404
    Well, it's kind of like the saying that "When one door closes another one opens"

    Or maybe it's a way for me to justify some of the things that happend in my life.

    I often wonder WHY my dad had a massive cerebral aneurysm. Why? Why is he brain damaged? Why is my family different now? But if I really look at it, think about it........there must be a reason (other than genetics). I've been blessed by so many gifts that came out of that. The time I spent with my dad in the hospital. The ability to really reflect on life and the true meaning of family, friends, the gift of having people around you. The time that I had before he had the annie. The true meaning of love. The things you'll do for people you care about. Personal strength I never knew I had.

    That's just one example. And sure, there are days I do lose perspective and get caught up in my own shit, but I come back down. I think back to November 7, 2002 and it all comes flying back. But I think it happened for a reason.

    My own opinion, my own experience. And maybe it is just justifying a bad situation.

    And when bad things happen to good people? I don't know. But I do believe that what goes around comes around. So when bad people get away with shit, they WILL get theirs. It may not be in this lifetime....
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. "
    Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

    I saw Hard To Imagine LIVE at MSG!
  • given2fly78given2fly78 Posts: 404
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    no. my dad is always saying this, and I've always thought he was full of shit.

    saying everything happens for a reason is like saying it's good luck when a bird poops on your head- you're just trying to make someone feel better when something bad happens. It's just a saying, it has no basis in reality.


    Oh, when I saw a bird shit on my sisters head in San Fran, I laughed my head off. And when my mom told her it was good luck, I laughed even harder.

    She got PISSED!

    Or, when they say it rains on your wedding day it's good luck. I find that funny too.
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. "
    Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

    I saw Hard To Imagine LIVE at MSG!
  • GreenTeaDiseaseGreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    given2fly78 wrote:
    Oh, when I saw a bird shit on my sisters head in San Fran, I laughed my head off. And when my mom told her it was good luck, I laughed even harder.

    She got PISSED!

    Or, when they say it rains on your wedding day it's good luck. I find that funny too.

    exactly. it's the same thing.
  • aspoonfulweighsatonaspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,036
    given2fly78 wrote:
    Yes, I do believe this.

    Good and bad, I think that we're all on the path that we're meant to be on. That doesn't give an excuse for our actions and behaviours. But it means to me that I'm where I'm meant to be. No matter what happens. And I have to believe that there is a reason for it. And through good and bad, I have the strength to deal with it all.


    I agree 100%.

    We have a winner!
  • GreenTeaDiseaseGreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    I have a hard time believing that I chose my current job as part of some overriding define path I'm supposed to be on. I think it was just a mistake on my part, a bad decision, period.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    No I do not believe in it.

    Unless you mean health reason. My dad died of a heart attack, so that's the reason for his death. But if you mean like some good thing came out of it, no it didn't. He's just gone and now I don't have him.
    R.i.p. Rigoberto Alpizar.
    R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
    R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
  • RyeGuyRyeGuy Posts: 215
    nope
    "Makes much more sense to live in the present tense." Ed Ved

    "No one cares about climbing stairs, Nothing at the top no more." Chris Cornell
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    i think so yeah, even if the reason is just to fuck with my world on a daily basis.
    Peace, Love.

    "To question your government is not unpatriotic --
    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
    -- Sen. Chuck Hagel
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    I have mixed feelings about placing reasons on events that seem to be out of my control...sometimes it seems helpful to think things happen for a reason, other times I think as individuals perhaps we're just not as important as we like to believe... :p
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    yes I believe in this
    "...like a word misplaced, nothing said, what a waste.."
    "Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
    6-01-06
    6/25/08
    Free Speedy
    and Metsy!
  • DMBPJ20DMBPJ20 Posts: 160
    I believe that everything happens for a reason. At least it is my way of rationalizing when things don't go the way I planned for them to go.

    I believe that whatever is meant to be will be.
    ...I just wanna scream hello...
    No L-O-I-T-E-R-I-N-G Alllloooowed.

    I'll ride the wave, where it takes me.
  • beebalmdancerbeebalmdancer Posts: 72
    radiohead33 wrote:
    I am a believer of this idea.

    Anyone else?

    Sometimes I am a believer in this idea, but then other times I think it's all just a wild crazy mess we all must crawl through and it has no purpose (except maybe to drive me crazy ;) )
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • beebalmdancerbeebalmdancer Posts: 72
    DMBPJ12 wrote:
    I believe that everything happens for a reason. At least it is my way of rationalizing when things don't go the way I planned for them to go.

    I believe that whatever is meant to be will be.


    Is DMB what I think it is? If so are you at the WH too?
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
  • DMBPJ20DMBPJ20 Posts: 160
    beebalmdancer wrote:
    Is DMB what I think it is? If so are you at the WH too?

    DMB is what you think it is - are you going to bash me and/or the band now?
    Yes, on the WH, too ;)
    ...I just wanna scream hello...
    No L-O-I-T-E-R-I-N-G Alllloooowed.

    I'll ride the wave, where it takes me.
  • beebalmdancerbeebalmdancer Posts: 72
    prism wrote:
    I'd love to be able to think that, however...

    ....when shitty things happen to good people and good things happen to shitty people...it makes it really hard to see what the reason may be

    Yep, I know what you mean.
    Deb/Bee

    myspace.com/DebCharlottesville
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