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CANKER SORES..wtf do I do?!?!?!

ucsbledbetterucsbledbetter Posts: 173
edited December 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
So I have pretty much been getting these little bitches since I was a young lad. I get them inside the mouth and I have been tested for STD's and that came back negative. People have told me that they may be related to food allergies. When eating things with salt or citrus it burns like crazy. My dentist gave me some antibiotic way back when, but that crap did not work. I have heard many different ways to try and make them feel better, so I am wondering if anyone out there gets them and what you do to deal with them. I have tried Zelactin to numb them and that seems to work pretty well. I have also tried Listerine and Hydrogen Peroxide. Any ideas???
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    Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,166
    There's a toothpaste that's supposed to control them. I belive it's made by Tom's of Maine. Not sure if it's any good.
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    taratara Posts: 293
    i've only ever had 1 or 2, can't remember why either, so i can't personally help you, but my mom gets them from eating walnuts, so it could be an alergy
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    South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,708
    -Salt Water
    -Or a painfull way it to put something superhot on it. Hurts like a bitch, but it goes away.
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    mca47mca47 Posts: 13,252
    You should rub salt on them.
    :p
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    i get them pretty regular too. they're a pain. defiinitely cut back on anything acidic or citrus-y when you feel one coming on. in the meantime, yogurt helps. cottage cheese. there's something about the cultures in those two foods that helps put them away apparently. it's not foolproof and wont work instantly, but it will do the job. i felt one coming on recently and ate yogurt about 2-3 times a day and managed to stop it before it got going.
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    Gary CarterGary Carter Shea Stadium Posts: 13,940
    oralgel
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    South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,708
    soulsinging wrote:
    i get them pretty regular too. they're a pain. defiinitely cut back on anything acidic or citrus-y when you feel one coming on. in the meantime, yogurt helps. cottage cheese. there's something about the cultures in those two foods that helps put them away apparently. it's not foolproof and wont work instantly, but it will do the job. i felt one coming on recently and ate yogurt about 2-3 times a day and managed to stop it before it got going.

    I forgot about that one. Those crazy cultures will help.
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    ScubascottScubascott Posts: 815
    I started a thread here once on this very subject. I get them occasionally too. They suck bigtime. They can even get to the point where the constant pain makes you cranky and irritable and depressed. You can't enjoy any kind of food, you can't talk without pain, you can't sleep at night. . .

    I wish I had a solution. Nothing works for me except to just wait for them to go away. Usually takes a week or two.
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,569
    ucsbledbetter wrote:
    So I have pretty much been getting these little bitches since I was a young lad. I get them inside the mouth and I have been tested for STD's and that came back negative. People have told me that they may be related to food allergies. When eating things with salt or citrus it burns like crazy. My dentist gave me some antibiotic way back when, but that crap did not work. I have heard many different ways to try and make them feel better, so I am wondering if anyone out there gets them and what you do to deal with them. I have tried Zelactin to numb them and that seems to work pretty well. I have also tried Listerine and Hydrogen Peroxide. Any ideas???

    Just got to a pharmacist and tell them what you have and they will give you what you need. Unless you live in a country with stupid laws that require prescriptions. A dude I work with recently did this and they sold him a cream that cleared it up, cost him like $40 though.

    My friend is training to be a pharmacist, she says they have to know everything. So if you go in and say "I have a bad cough from smoking" they got something for you. Pretty much anything.
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    DinghyDogDinghyDog Posts: 587
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Could be genetic and nothing you can do about it but.... to help, make sure you have plenty of vitamin C and loads of all the B vitamins. Other nutrients that are helpful are zinc, folic acid, iron, selenium, calcium. Good supply of all of these in your diet can really help with the recurrence of these ulcers. They really get you when your immune system is down (stress, illness, etc.)

    Also use a toothpastes and mouthwash that it free from sodium lauryl sulfate. Studies have shown that sls can increase the rate of canker sores. Using sls free toothpaste can reduce recurrence and, when you do get them, they are less painful.

    Always worth a try....
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    DinghyDog wrote:
    is it some kind of virus in you that causes it or what?

    It's not a virus... it's some kind of reaction of your immune system. From what I understand your immune system thinks there are some weird foreign molecules that it thinks it needs to 'attack' when actually nothing is there and thus the white blood cells create havock and this forms the ulcers. Sorry.. not a very medical way to describe things!!
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,569
    This is funny, let's see, malnutrition, check, poor hygeine, check, low vitamin C, check. And I've never had these canker sores.

    http://familydoctor.org/613.xml

    I guess that leaves, food allergies and menstrual periods. I eat MSG which I am allergic to, and red food dye as well. Well, I guess it does say, they don't really know why people get them.

    You could always google "canker sores" ;)

    Canker sores usually go away without any treatment. For pain relief, you can try taking ibuprofen (brand name: Advil) or acetaminophen (brand name: Tylenol). Other medicines, such as Anbesol, Oragel, Orabase and Zilactin-B, might keep your canker sores from becoming irritated by eating, drinking or brushing your teeth. You put these medicines right on the sore.

    You can also mix equal amounts of Milk of Magnesia and Benadryl Allergy liquid. After it's mixed, you can swish a teaspoonful in your mouth for about 1 minute and then spit it out. If you do this every 4 to 6 hours, your canker sores may hurt less.

    Some people think that sucking on zinc lozenges, taking vitamin C or vitamin B complex, using a sage-and-chamomile mouthwash or taking a lysine supplement helps their canker sores heal faster.

    Crazy, Pharmacist told dude I work with they are oral herpes. So basically your SOL, just take some Benzocaine solution like Oragel to numb your mouth.
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Crazy, Pharmacist told dude I work with they are oral herpes. So basically your SOL, just take some Benzocaine solution like Oragel to numb your mouth.

    Pharmacist is wrong (or the dude you work with did not have canker sores). Canker sores are mouth ulcers on the inside of the mouth, not caused by a virus and are NOT contagious.

    On the other hand...

    Cold sores are caused by the Herpes Simplex virus and are usually on the outer edge of the lip or mouth. These ARE very contagious.
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,569
    redrock wrote:
    Pharmacist is wrong (or the dude you work with did not have canker sores). Canker sores are mouth ulcers on the inside of the mouth, not caused by a virus and are NOT contagious.

    On the other hand...

    Cold sores are caused by the Herpes Simplex virus and are usually on the outer edge of the lip or mouth. These ARE very contagious.

    Oh I see. Thanks for the clarification. I've never had either.

    Interesting that this dude would have herpes, dudes the most religious guy I've ever met.
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Oh I see. Thanks for the clarification. I've never had either.

    Interesting that this dude would have herpes, dudes the most religious guy I've ever met.

    This virus can lay dormant for years... most probably has been exposed to it as a child (like a lot of us!). It's not automatically sexually transmitted.

    I've never had either and I certainly lack in all kind of nutrients and vitamins! An up to now (touch wood), cold sore virus hasn't woken up yet!
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,569
    redrock wrote:
    This virus can lay dormant for years... most probably has been exposed to it as a child (like a lot of us!). It's not automatically sexually transmitted.

    True dat, guess he could have got it any way.
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,569
    Dude, can you vouche for me, the next time someone says I never budge, or admit I'm wrong. Cause I'm pretty sure I just did.
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Dude, can you vouche for me, the next time someone says I never budge, or admit I'm wrong. Cause I'm pretty sure I just did.
    :D:D:D:D:D

    I'll have to remember that for the next 'discussion' on the MT! :D:D:D
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,569
    redrock wrote:
    :D:D:D:D:D

    I'll have to remember that for the next 'discussion' on the MT! :D:D:D

    See, clearly, my knowledge of this was limited, so I didn't push very hard. You sound well versed on it, so I'll take your word on it, for the sake of argument. If I ever cared enough, I'd look it up.

    Good Work Redrock!
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    I never really cared about it either as I don't suffer from it (or anyone in my family). But a friend of mind has mega problems with cold sores (she's really run down, going through messy divorce, just got over - hopefully - breast cancer) and she was really upset of what people were saying.. even calling her 'unclean' and generally pointing the finger at her because of the cold sores (thinking they are only sexually transmitted). She was even trying to justify herself to me!!!!

    I just felt compelled to clarify that bit... don't know why... just hate preconceptions.
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    AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,569
    redrock wrote:
    I never really cared about it either as I don't suffer from it (or anyone in my family). But a friend of mind has mega problems with cold sores (she's really run down, going through messy divorce, just got over - hopefully - breast cancer) and she was really upset of what people were saying.. even calling her 'unclean' and generally pointing the finger at her because of the cold sores (thinking they are only sexually transmitted). She was even trying to justify herself to me!!!!

    I just felt compelled to clarify that bit... don't know why... just hate preconceptions.

    I feel the same way man. I'm glad I know the difference now. Thanks.
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    you areyou are Posts: 1,651
    this may sound strange, and i don't know if it will help, but if i use crest toothpaste, the inside of my mouth burns and i start getting sores on my gums and the inside of my lip. i've never had a problem with canker sores so i don't know what to tell you there. anytime i get a bump on my tongue, like from a virus or something, i'll rinse my mouth out with hot salty water and it goes away within 24 hours. i hope you find something that helps!
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    Dog LoyalDog Loyal Posts: 336
    Dab them with BAKING SODA. It will taste awful, but it is an antacid and will neutralize the acid that is causing the ulceration and pain.

    Trust me on this. It works.
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    ucsbledbetterucsbledbetter Posts: 173
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    EarthgirlEarthgirl Posts: 695
    i haven't read through all the replies, but when I have a canker sore I gargle with warm water and salt... and it always works. It usually takes a day or two for them to ease down.
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    LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Isn't the chicken pox, cold soars and herpes the same thing? Apparently most of us, some 90% have herpes. There's different strands of herpes and it flares up in some people more than others. Most people carry herpes, but it has no effect on them. I was told this my friend who's an E.R. doctor. He's either right or a very bad E.R. doctor.
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    All Those YesterdaysAll Those Yesterdays Posts: 2,723
    When I was younger my sister and I would get them all the time. Usually more then one at a time. I always gargle peroxide and listerine, and salt water.

    In the last 3 or 4 years I don't really get them anymore. Usually only when I bite my lip bad. I have one right now, which has been around for almost a week and sucks bad, but it was where I bit my lip.

    Wish they had a cure.

    I've also been told to not use paste style toothpaste, use the gels. But who knows.

    I can handle a cold, but canker sores that's where the research should be!!!
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    Hands boundHands bound Posts: 534
    Go to the store and get a small jar of alum. Put the alum on the canker sore and it will be gone tomorrow.

    I used to get them when I was a kid and that's what my mom would do and it worked everytime.
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    Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    I used to work in a Pharmacy as a Tech way back when. They would always recommend this : http://www.dentist.net/gly-oxide.asp?source=nt


    I'm not sure if you said you used this already ?
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