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  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,214
    Wobbie said:
    I’m on a sicko trip. finished manson; up to about age 21 with jim jones. so far, jim seems a bit quirky but an OK guy....


    Just don't follow the kool-aid recipe
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,214
    Just started reading 1984
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,238
    Wobbie said:
    I’m on a sicko trip. finished manson; up to about age 21 with jim jones. so far, jim seems a bit quirky but an OK guy....


    Just don't follow the kool-aid recipe

    re: jim jones....I am totally surprised, so far. he survived a fucked up childhood and came out with some lofty ideals. he absolutely believed all people were equal. the chapter I just finished ending by saying “ in 1961 indianapolis was significantly more integrated than it had been 12 months earlier and that was almost entirely due to (30 y.o.) jim jones” by this time, he had a family of two adopted korean kids, one adopted black kid (jim jr.), one adopted white girl and a natural son. he was feeding the hungry and clothing the poor. he was ambitious, but everything he did, he did for the church. obviously, something is yet to go wrong... 
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    joy.
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,062
    Wobbie said:
    Wobbie said:
    I’m on a sicko trip. finished manson; up to about age 21 with jim jones. so far, jim seems a bit quirky but an OK guy....


    Just don't follow the kool-aid recipe

    re: jim jones....I am totally surprised, so far. he survived a fucked up childhood and came out with some lofty ideals. he absolutely believed all people were equal. the chapter I just finished ending by saying “ in 1961 indianapolis was significantly more integrated than it had been 12 months earlier and that was almost entirely due to (30 y.o.) jim jones” by this time, he had a family of two adopted korean kids, one adopted black kid (jim jr.), one adopted white girl and a natural son. he was feeding the hungry and clothing the poor. he was ambitious, but everything he did, he did for the church. obviously, something is yet to go wrong... 
    Yes. I remember watching a documentary about him and thinking the same thing. The first part of the doc showed him to be a decent guy with some good ideas. I remember thinking that I totally understood why people joined him. His message seemed on point to me. Then things took a very dark turn - especially once they got to Guyana.

  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,238
    GlowGirl said:
    Wobbie said:
    Wobbie said:
    I’m on a sicko trip. finished manson; up to about age 21 with jim jones. so far, jim seems a bit quirky but an OK guy....


    Just don't follow the kool-aid recipe

    re: jim jones....I am totally surprised, so far. he survived a fucked up childhood and came out with some lofty ideals. he absolutely believed all people were equal. the chapter I just finished ending by saying “ in 1961 indianapolis was significantly more integrated than it had been 12 months earlier and that was almost entirely due to (30 y.o.) jim jones” by this time, he had a family of two adopted korean kids, one adopted black kid (jim jr.), one adopted white girl and a natural son. he was feeding the hungry and clothing the poor. he was ambitious, but everything he did, he did for the church. obviously, something is yet to go wrong... 
    Yes. I remember watching a documentary about him and thinking the same thing. The first part of the doc showed him to be a decent guy with some good ideas. I remember thinking that I totally understood why people joined him. His message seemed on point to me. Then things took a very dark turn - especially once they got to Guyana.


    and I don’t know enough about the “dark turn”...that’s why it’s a page turner!
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895


    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,893
    Just started reading 1984
    A classic!
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  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,893
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 2025
  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    Joe Abercrombie - Last Argument of Kings (First Law Trilogy, book3)

    944076
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,798
    Yarden said:
    Joe Abercrombie - Last Argument of Kings (First Law Trilogy, book3)

    944076
    I had fun reading a bunch of JA, including this series.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Fifthelement
    Fifthelement Lotusland Posts: 6,965


    Seventh or eighth time reading this.  I just love Frederick Forsyth’s writing.  I think I have all of his books.  I would like to see the 1973 movie.  Apparently, it actually follows the book storyline, unlike the Bruce Willis remake, The Jackal, which was Amercanised.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,798

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    Yarden said:
    Joe Abercrombie - Last Argument of Kings (First Law Trilogy, book3)

    944076
    I had fun reading a bunch of JA, including this series.
    i'm enjoying it. would you recommend his other series?
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,798
    Yarden said:
    Yarden said:
    Joe Abercrombie - Last Argument of Kings (First Law Trilogy, book3)

    944076
    I had fun reading a bunch of JA, including this series.
    i'm enjoying it. would you recommend his other series?

    I liked the Shattered Sea series.  YA so quick reads, but I enjoyed it.
    The other series he set in the same groove as the First Law was OK, don't think I made it all of the way through.
    Only so much time!  ;)
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    Yarden said:
    Yarden said:
    Joe Abercrombie - Last Argument of Kings (First Law Trilogy, book3)

    944076
    I had fun reading a bunch of JA, including this series.
    i'm enjoying it. would you recommend his other series?

    I liked the Shattered Sea series.  YA so quick reads, but I enjoyed it.
    The other series he set in the same groove as the First Law was OK, don't think I made it all of the way through.
    Only so much time!  ;)
    thanks. i'll check it out.
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,893

    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 2025
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,798
    edited April 2021
    Such an amazing author...I loved his first two books, among my favorites, and almost done with this and it is not a let down.  Great!

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,975

    Great book, I believe one of the stories follows Holly from The Outsider, hope you read that one first. If not it's still a great story.
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,798
    a5pj said:

    Great book, I believe one of the stories follows Holly from The Outsider, hope you read that one first. If not it's still a great story.

    Yes, read pretty much all of King's stuff but Holly from Mr Mercedes (and following 2 books) and then The Outsider is awesome. 
    Liked the stories in this one!
    The love he receives is the love that is saved