EliteXC Down For The Count

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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    PatrickBateman wrote:
    after that Slice/Petruzzeli fight, I wasn't going to be watching anymore

    Yeah but will you still...

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  • mookie blaylock 10
    mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Oh sure ruin my fantasy...why not kick me in the balls while you're at it !!

    ;):p

    sorry to be the bearer of bad news, phantom pain. there is still the "towel" weigh-in videos for you! :) hardly the same, i know! :D
  • mookie blaylock 10
    mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    PatrickBateman wrote:
    after that Slice/Petruzzeli fight, I wasn't going to be watching anymore

    personally, i saw that as a good thing. :)
  • PatrickBateman
    PatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Yeah but will you still...

    ...use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
    of course...did I mention that I'm utterly insane?!
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    strikeforce is a possibility too, with gina having faced elaina there before, and elitexc having co-promoted with them in the past. ideally, a showdown in the ufc as you mentioned, mammasan! that would be fantastic. i think it might change dana's mind, and maybe a few fans' as well.

    the people at affliction may be receptive to the idea, true. maybe the fedor vs. arlovski card?

    I forgot about Strikeforce. If I was white I would put together a fight card to air on Spike with a Carano/Santos fight on it. Check out the ratings during their match and go from there. Putting them on PPV would be a mistake for the first fight. They need to build up a following and after UFC fans start seeing these women fight and how bad ass they are White will change his stance.
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  • Igivesuchgoodparadym
    Igivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    I forgot about Strikeforce. If I was white I would put together a fight card to air on Spike with a Carano/Santos fight on it. Check out the ratings during their match and go from there. Putting them on PPV would be a mistake for the first fight. They need to build up a following and after UFC fans start seeing these women fight and how bad ass they are White will change his stance.

    there's also Mark Cuban's group too, but I don't know.
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  • Trailer
    Trailer Posts: 1,431
    mammasan wrote:
    I just don't see Gina going to WWE. She would loose so much respect that she may as well retire from professional fighting. Unfortunately you may be right about the Playboy and that is a damn shame.

    Well she was an American Gladiator recently... I don't think that holds too much more prestige than WWE. She can do whatever she wants and people will still respect her fighting skills.... such as Playboy.:D:p
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • londonwpr
    londonwpr Posts: 293
    Did you see how relieved Gina's dad was after her fight? I was quite impressed with her skills. It wouldn't be a bad thing if she went the Playboy route!
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Trailer wrote:
    Well she was an American Gladiator recently... I don't think that holds too much more prestige than WWE. She can do whatever she wants and people will still respect her fighting skills.... such as Playboy.:D:p

    As bad as American Glasiators was it is nowhere near as bad as WWE.
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  • Igivesuchgoodparadym
    Igivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    As bad as American Glasiators was it is nowhere near as bad as WWE.

    Mayweather didn't care...so why would Gina?
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    Mayweather didn't care...so why would Gina?

    I don't know if she cares I know I do. Not only am I a fan of MMA but have trained in several arts incorporated in MMA for several years now, am currently sidelined with a knee injury. So I certainly would loose respect for her if she decided to turn her back on MMA and go onto do some staged theatrics at WWE.
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  • Igivesuchgoodparadym
    Igivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    I don't know if she cares I know I do. Not only am I a fan of MMA but have trained in several arts incorporated in MMA for several years now, am currently sidelined with a knee injury. So I certainly would loose respect for her if she decided to turn her back on MMA and go onto do some staged theatrics at WWE.

    Look, if she used the WWE as a vehicle to keep her name out there and do an angle with one of Vince's wrestlers for a Wrestlemania PPV, and then left after to do Affliction, would you seriously care? It's not that much more "entertainment" than Gladiators, quite frankly. I can't imagine that MMA fans would say "Oh, I'll never watch her again." Ken Shamrock and Brock Lesner had WWE connections and I'm sure you had no problem watching them. In fact, you'll probably be ordering the Couture vs. Brock PPV before most people, so if Brock doesn't have the "wrestling taint" for being a WWE champ, I'm pretty sure Gina would survive appearing for a bit in WWE.
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    mammasan wrote:
    I don't know if she cares I know I do. Not only am I a fan of MMA but have trained in several arts incorporated in MMA for several years now, am currently sidelined with a knee injury. So I certainly would loose respect for her if she decided to turn her back on MMA and go onto do some staged theatrics at WWE.
    What's your opinion on Ken Shamrock's time in the WWF?
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    Look, if she used the WWE as a vehicle to keep her name out there and do an angle with one of Vince's wrestlers for a Wrestlemania PPV, and then left after to do Affliction, would you seriously care? It's not that much more "entertainment" than Gladiators, quite frankly. I can't imagine that MMA fans would say "Oh, I'll never watch her again." Ken Shamrock and Brock Lesner had WWE connections and I'm sure you had no problem watching them. In fact, you'll probably be ordering the Couture vs. Brock PPV before most people, so if Brock doesn't have the "wrestling taint" for being a WWE champ, I'm pretty sure Gina would survive appearing for a bit in WWE.

    You do make a good point, and I will be ordering the PPV but not because of Lesner. I guess I would be disappointed because I do enjoy watching her fight and it would be a shame, if she left MMA completely for WWE because of money or lack of opportunities in MMA, to not see her fight anymore. Whether she, or other people, like it or not she is the face of women's MMA and to have it's biggest star leave the sport would really affect up and coming female fighters. It's bad enough the people like Dana White will not give women a chance. They need someone like Carano to stick it out in the sport and pave the way for them.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    What's your opinion on Ken Shamrock's time in the WWF?

    I don't like Ken Shamrock and my problem is not with them being in the WWE it's that Carano has an opportunity to really break open women's MMA. She is the face of the sport and if she decides to turn and go to WWE it will be a huge setback to women's MMA.
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  • Igivesuchgoodparadym
    Igivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    You do make a good point, and I will be ordering the PPV but not because of Lesner.

    Not because of Lesner? Why then? Couture is fighting somebody and the undercard isn't marquee.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    Not because of Lesner? Why then? Couture is fighting somebody and the undercard isn't marquee.

    I'm ordering because of Couture. I love watching him fight. Like I said in my earlier post. It really isn't a dislike of WWE, though I do dislike it. It's the notion that she is dropping MMA because women can't make it in the sport. Whether that is the true reason or not that is how it will be perceived.
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  • Igivesuchgoodparadym
    Igivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    I'm ordering because of Couture. I love watching him fight. Like I said in my earlier post. It really isn't a dislike of WWE, though I do dislike it. It's the notion that she is dropping MMA because women can't make it in the sport. Whether that is the true reason or not that is how it will be perceived.

    I understand your point about women MMA and they deserve an outlet to compete like men if they want to. But back to Couture, let's be honest, if he was competing against a Nate Quarry type (nothing against Nate) would you order the PPV? Your interest is piqued a bit to see if he survives against Brock, who is still a novice in some regards to MMA but it looks to be quite the contest.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    I understand your point about women MMA and they deserve an outlet to compete like men if they want to. But back to Couture, let's be honest, if he was competing against a Nate Quarry type (nothing against Nate) would you order the PPV? Your interest is piqued a bit to see if he survives against Brock, who is still a novice in some regards to MMA but it looks to be quite the contest.

    I still would have ordered the fight but yes I am interested to see how he fights Brock. I haven't seen Brock fight yet so I can't attest to how good he is.
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  • Igivesuchgoodparadym
    Igivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    I still would have ordered the fight but yes I am interested to see how he fights Brock. I haven't seen Brock fight yet so I can't attest to how good he is.

    Okay, you just made my point. You are interested to see how he fights against Brock. You don't really care that Brock was a WWE champ and him being a phony champ won't dissuade you from ordering the PPV. Your earlier comment of "I just don't see Gina going to WWE. She would loose so much respect that she may as well retire from professional fighting" is a bit of a stretch, no? Can you imagine someone saying that about Brock if, say he started in Elite, got a following and then went to WWE before UFC? You would've had no respect for him doing WWE, when in fact it really doesn't effect his credibility at all by doing WWE. That's my point. Gina wouldn't really lose any respect if she spent a year with WWE and then went to UFC if Dana created a role a year from now. That was my point.
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