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EliteXC Down For The Count

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DAMN!!! I was really hoping they would remain long enough to put on the Carano/Santos fight.
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  • IgivesuchgoodparadymIgivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AifCTkIVXmgOtBhd_W7K8YQ9Eo14?slug=dm-elitexc102008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    DAMN!!! I was really hoping they would remain long enough to put on the Carano/Santos fight.


    don't be surprised if Gina Carano ends up in WWE. You heard it from me first. Dana White won’t do women’s groups for a while and Shane is a mark for that stuff, so she could be a Diva for the next Wrestlemania against Beth Phoenix.
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  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    me too! :) i was very much looking forward to gina carano vs. cristiane santos! it sounded like it was going to happen in early 2009, and the next couple of cards appeared to be solid. i'm sure the guys will be picked up by other organizations in time, but i hope the women are able to find a place to compete and get their fights shown. someone out there must have the sense to know that their women's bouts were always one of the most exciting parts of their shows.

    i'll miss the round cage too. for some reason i find it to be the best for keeping the action going. it's not as easy to hold your opponent against the fence and it's not a rope. (not a fan of the rope ;))

    with the afl, adrenaline, and this all seemingly going down at the same time, i just hope that some of their talented fighters don't find themselves searching for some obscure place to go, when they've put time in the sport and deserve to be seen.
  • TrailerTrailer Posts: 1,431
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    don't be surprised if Gina Carano ends up in WWE. You heard it from me first. Dana White won’t do women’s groups for a while and Shane is a mark for that stuff, so she could be a Diva for the next Wrestlemania against Beth Phoenix.

    Why won't Dana do women's groups?

    WWE?? Well as long as I get to see Gina doing something!!:D
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    don't be surprised if Gina Carano ends up in WWE. You heard it from me first. Dana White won’t do women’s groups for a while and Shane is a mark for that stuff, so she could be a Diva for the next Wrestlemania against Beth Phoenix.

    personally, i can't see her doing something like that. she's far too competitive and someone with some sense out there has to be seeing the possibilities with women's mma. i hope so, so they can continue to get their matches out there to a larger audience, instead of being relegated in the pre-lims on small shows.

    when she originally decided to do amaerican gladiators, i saw an interview with her where she said she did it mostly because she just wanted to have fun with it because the show was on when she was younger and that it was a good chance for her to promote elitexc and women's mma. if it's not promoting mma, i can't see her doing it, and if it's something to do with the wwe...i just know see that in her personality. just my opinion. :)
  • IgivesuchgoodparadymIgivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    Trailer wrote:
    Why won't Dana do women's groups?

    WWE?? Well as long as I get to see Gina doing something!!:D

    I don't think Dana think women mean much. Shane is a big MMA mark and with the 25th anny coming up for Wrestlemania, I see WWE making a play for her.
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  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    Trailer wrote:
    Why won't Dana do women's groups?

    WWE?? Well as long as I get to see Gina doing something!!:D

    he's said many times that he just doesn't enjoy seeing women fight. i think he just hasn't seen the right women's matches yet! ;) i think it was on "warrior nation" where they asked him the question...the episode was about gina carano and elaina maxwell...and he said that he didn't think we'll ever see women fighting in the ufc.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,429
    Good, EliteXC sucked. Where will Kimbo go now? If Dana White picks him up Kimbo will never win another match unless he is pitted against the absolute worst of UFC.
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  • IgivesuchgoodparadymIgivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    he's said many times that he just doesn't enjoy seeing women fight. i think he just hasn't seen the right women's matches yet! ;) i think it was on "warrior nation" where they asked him the question...the episode was about gina carano and elaina maxwell...and he said that he didn't think we'll ever see women fighting in the ufc.

    I don't think Gina would do it for the long haul, but Vince most likely would offer the most $$$ and coming off the CBS exposure, he may be the one most likely gunning for her. He needs a hot angle for Wrestlemania 25 and Gina would be the ingredient to shift the women's division out of first gear. I'm just saying that I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    If there was ever a time or a place for someone to do PLAYBOY this is it !

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Good, EliteXC sucked. Where will Kimbo go now? If Dana White picks him up Kimbo will never win another match unless he is pitted against the absolute worst of UFC.

    Dana White has stated that he would never pick up Kimbo. He said that Kimbo would be able to hold his own even against decent fighters in UFC. Hopefully White can see the potential in having women in the UFC. Carano is a huge ratings draw. I would hope that he puts on the Carano/Santos fight as an exhibition to test the waters. That fight would draw a huge crowd and hopefully open the door for women in the UFC. If not the only place I can see them going is Affliction.

    As to Carano going to WWE, I can't see it. She has fought on the international Muay Thai circut and is a fierce competitor. She would loose all credability within the martial arts community by going that route. If anything she will end up in Affliction or head back to the Muay Thai circut.
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  • IgivesuchgoodparadymIgivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    Dana White has stated that he would never pick up Kimbo. He said that Kimbo would be able to hold his own even against decent fighters in UFC. Hopefully White can see the potential in having women in the UFC. Carano is a huge ratings draw. I would hope that he puts on the Carano/Santos fight as an exhibition to test the waters. That fight would draw a huge crowd and hopefully open the door for women in the UFC. If not the only place I can see them going is Affliction.

    As to Carano going to WWE, I can't see it. She has fought on the international Muay Thai circut and is a fierce competitor. She would loose all credability within the martial arts community by going that route. If anything she will end up in Affliction or head back to the Muay Thai circut.

    Regarding your sig, I wonder if Ron Paul fooled around with Sarah and caught stupidity for his troubles?
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  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    I don't think Gina would do it for the long haul, but Vince most likely would offer the most $$$ and coming off the CBS exposure, he may be the one most likely gunning for her. He needs a hot angle for Wrestlemania 25 and Gina would be the ingredient to shift the women's division out of first gear. I'm just saying that I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.

    yeah, i can see what you're saying. i'm just picturing her trying to stay in character and laughing her ass off because she couldn't take it seriously. :D maybe they could have her do an appearance like cro cop did in japan last year when all he did was walk down to the ring and kick the "heel" in the head without saying a word. :)

    i don't know, i just can't see her or the coutures seeing that as a good career move. she's already had to try to overcome the misinterpretations about american gladiators...people thinking she was only getting fights because she was on that show.

    so we'll say maybe on wwe ;):D but the playboy thing phantom pain mentioned is definitely not happening!
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    Regarding your sig, I wonder if Ron Paul fooled around with Sarah and caught stupidity for his troubles?

    Are you implying that Ron Paul is stupid because if so that is just cause to drag your ass into the Octagon. :)
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    so we'll say maybe on wwe ;):D but the playboy thing phantom pain mentioned is definitely not happening!


    Oh sure ruin my fantasy...why not kick me in the balls while you're at it !!

    ;):p
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  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    after that Slice/Petruzzeli fight, I wasn't going to be watching anymore
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  • IgivesuchgoodparadymIgivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    Are you implying that Ron Paul is stupid because if so that is just cause to drag your ass into the Octagon. :)

    i meant the broad.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    yeah, i can see what you're saying. i'm just picturing her trying to stay in character and laughing her ass off because she couldn't take it seriously. :D maybe they could have her do an appearance like cro cop did in japan last year when all he did was walk down to the ring and kick the "heel" in the head without saying a word. :)

    i don't know, i just can't see her or the coutures seeing that as a good career move. she's already had to try to overcome the misinterpretations about american gladiators...people thinking she was only getting fights because she was on that show.

    so we'll say maybe on wwe ;):D but the playboy thing phantom pain mentioned is definitely not happening!

    I just don't see Gina going to WWE. She would loose so much respect that she may as well retire from professional fighting. Unfortunately you may be right about the Playboy and that is a damn shame.
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  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    mammasan wrote:
    Dana White has stated that he would never pick up Kimbo. He said that Kimbo would be able to hold his own even against decent fighters in UFC. Hopefully White can see the potential in having women in the UFC. Carano is a huge ratings draw. I would hope that he puts on the Carano/Santos fight as an exhibition to test the waters. That fight would draw a huge crowd and hopefully open the door for women in the UFC. If not the only place I can see them going is Affliction.

    As to Carano going to WWE, I can't see it. She has fought on the international Muay Thai circut and is a fierce competitor. She would loose all credability within the martial arts community by going that route. If anything she will end up in Affliction or head back to the Muay Thai circut.

    strikeforce is a possibility too, with gina having faced elaina there before, and elitexc having co-promoted with them in the past. ideally, a showdown in the ufc as you mentioned, mammasan! that would be fantastic. i think it might change dana's mind, and maybe a few fans' as well.

    the people at affliction may be receptive to the idea, true. maybe the fedor vs. arlovski card?
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Igivesuchgoodparadym wrote:
    i meant the broad.

    Yes Palin is as dumb as a box of lint but that doesn't change the fact that she's an Alaskan Cougar.
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  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    mammasan wrote:
    I just don't see Gina going to WWE. She would loose so much respect that she may as well retire from professional fighting. Unfortunately you may be right about the Playboy and that is a damn shame.

    i'd tend to agree with you mammasan. yeah, she has said many, many times definitely not about playboy. a shame indeed. ;)
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    PatrickBateman wrote:
    after that Slice/Petruzzeli fight, I wasn't going to be watching anymore

    Yeah but will you still...

    ...use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
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  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Oh sure ruin my fantasy...why not kick me in the balls while you're at it !!

    ;):p

    sorry to be the bearer of bad news, phantom pain. there is still the "towel" weigh-in videos for you! :) hardly the same, i know! :D
  • mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    PatrickBateman wrote:
    after that Slice/Petruzzeli fight, I wasn't going to be watching anymore

    personally, i saw that as a good thing. :)
  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Yeah but will you still...

    ...use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
    of course...did I mention that I'm utterly insane?!
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    strikeforce is a possibility too, with gina having faced elaina there before, and elitexc having co-promoted with them in the past. ideally, a showdown in the ufc as you mentioned, mammasan! that would be fantastic. i think it might change dana's mind, and maybe a few fans' as well.

    the people at affliction may be receptive to the idea, true. maybe the fedor vs. arlovski card?

    I forgot about Strikeforce. If I was white I would put together a fight card to air on Spike with a Carano/Santos fight on it. Check out the ratings during their match and go from there. Putting them on PPV would be a mistake for the first fight. They need to build up a following and after UFC fans start seeing these women fight and how bad ass they are White will change his stance.
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  • IgivesuchgoodparadymIgivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    I forgot about Strikeforce. If I was white I would put together a fight card to air on Spike with a Carano/Santos fight on it. Check out the ratings during their match and go from there. Putting them on PPV would be a mistake for the first fight. They need to build up a following and after UFC fans start seeing these women fight and how bad ass they are White will change his stance.

    there's also Mark Cuban's group too, but I don't know.
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  • TrailerTrailer Posts: 1,431
    mammasan wrote:
    I just don't see Gina going to WWE. She would loose so much respect that she may as well retire from professional fighting. Unfortunately you may be right about the Playboy and that is a damn shame.

    Well she was an American Gladiator recently... I don't think that holds too much more prestige than WWE. She can do whatever she wants and people will still respect her fighting skills.... such as Playboy.:D:p
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • londonwprlondonwpr Posts: 293
    Did you see how relieved Gina's dad was after her fight? I was quite impressed with her skills. It wouldn't be a bad thing if she went the Playboy route!
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Trailer wrote:
    Well she was an American Gladiator recently... I don't think that holds too much more prestige than WWE. She can do whatever she wants and people will still respect her fighting skills.... such as Playboy.:D:p

    As bad as American Glasiators was it is nowhere near as bad as WWE.
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  • IgivesuchgoodparadymIgivesuchgoodparadym Posts: 924
    mammasan wrote:
    As bad as American Glasiators was it is nowhere near as bad as WWE.

    Mayweather didn't care...so why would Gina?
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