brutal honesty

sennin

know1 wrote:

Why the word "brutal"?

Honesty is honesty, when you add the word "brutal" you're bringing subjectivity into the equation.

Yes honesty is honesty.....but there is more than one way to communicate honestly.

You could say, "Excuse me sir, but there is something off with the taste of my chicken. Can I get my check please?" (honest)

Or you could say, "Excuse me sir, but this chicken tastes like absolute garbage, is it even cooked? I'm never coming here again. Can I have my check?" (brutally honest)

Both could be the truth....it's the delivery that's different....brutal.

dunkman

i suppose if people are brutally honest then it only hurts if you know they are right... otherwise why get annoyed about it?

i.e. dunk you are totally fucking crap at golf..

i'd agree with that


dunk you can barely kick a football and look like a drunk Heather Mills when attempting to do so... i wouldnt agree


does any of that make sense?

jamie uk

dunkman wrote:

i suppose if people are brutally honest then it only hurts if you know they are right... otherwise why get annoyed about it?

i.e. dunk you are totally fucking crap at golf..

i'd agree with that


dunk you can barely kick a football and look like a drunk Heather Mills when attempting to do so... i wouldnt agree


does any of that make sense?

I get that man, I just wish you'd called for a kick around when you were looking around them castles......

dunkman

jamie uk wrote:

I get that man, I just wish you'd called for a kick around when you were looking around them castles......

i was with my family amigo or i would have... but i dont think Mrs Dunk would have enjoyed watching me half you and then blast the ball into a passing nuns fudd.

actually she might have


come to the next London meet-up?

jamainiac

"While using brutal frankness might be satisfying for the person using it since it tends to break down an issue into its raw components, using basic honesty gets the point across in a far more palatable way for the receiver. A person is more likely to process the information given to them if they're not already processing the rawness in which it was given and rankling because of it".

~Char McClary~
http://www.helium.com/user/show/38105

... no idea who Char is... but I think she defines the two deliveries well

failedpersephone

Honesty doesnt have to be brutal...it is only brutal if the intention was to hurt with your honest assessment or opinion...otherwise, you can be honest and not be a dickhead.

jamie uk

dunkman wrote:

i was with my family amigo or i would have... but i dont think Mrs Dunk would have enjoyed watching me half you and then blast the ball into a passing nuns fudd.

actually she might have


come to the next London meet-up?

I coulda gotten you into a 5 a side game, Tuesdays wouldn't be the same without me passing some poor bastards to death before I left their last man for dead, and screamed one into the keepers net via his face..! When is the London thing, I'll do it.

AmentsChick

sennin wrote:

Is there a place for it?

Only if it's requested.

The Severed Hand

I wonder what situation was in question when this thread was begun?

nothingman44

sennin wrote:

Is there a place for it?

Besides in a veiled attempt at comedy?

Are people too sensitive to hear something brutally honest?

i'd rather hear the brutal honesty, instead of someone dancing aroudn the truth.

my ex did that to me and i will never forgive her for it. she is coward for not wanting to give me the truth.

just gimme some truth!

SPEEDY MCCREADY

nothingman44 wrote:

i'd rather hear the brutal honesty, instead of someone dancing aroudn the truth.

my ex did that to me and i will never forgive her for it. she is coward for not wanting to give me the truth.

just gimme some truth!

ok then....

here is some brutal honesty.....

YOU FUCKING NEED TO GET OVER HER ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hehehehe.........

just being honest....hehe

nothingman44

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

ok then....

here is some brutal honesty.....

YOU FUCKING NEED TO GET OVER HER ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hehehehe.........

just being honest....hehe

you are being honest, and that is the truth.

i realize this and i'm sure you know, its always easier said than done.

i'm starting to get my priorities straight again, but my quest for the truth from her probably wont end anytime soon.

Urban Hiker

I've been told I'm TOO honest by my own mother. I think she means that sometimes I'm brutally honest.

To me it's a last straw kind of thing. I try to be nice, sugar-coat things or make subtle hints. But, sometimes, I get so entirely fed up with somebody not getting the point that I just want to bash their head in - and I do it in words.

I'm not big on name calling, just absolute "Here's how I see it, Dipshit."

- Okay, so maybe there is some minor name calling.

libragirl

people don't like it at all..they rather you feed them bullshit.

MattCameronKicksButt

libragirl wrote:

people don't like it at all..they rather you feed them bullshit.

You don't have to be feeding someone bullshit just to be nice!

PJPOWER

I don't know if I'm all for the honesty thing.........Brutality, yes.

Heineken Helen

jamainiac wrote:

I think it has a lot to do with the 'intent' of the person dishing out the information...

If you are expressing 'your opinion' to someone with the intent to 'hurt' them... I think it's best to hold your breath...

If you feel you can actually help someone by opening their eyes to something they are unable or afraid to see... in hopes of helping them... that's a different story...

Absolutely, I've known some brutally honest people who I've loved... If I wanted a genuinely honest answer I'd ask them. Even if I didn't want it, I appreciated it cos I know there was no badness in what they had to say and that they were saying something to help me.

And then I've known some assholes...

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

i suppose if people are brutally honest then it only hurts if you know they are right... otherwise why get annoyed about it?

See I think of brutal honesty as somebody who always tells the truth no matter how bad it is. I like it! I can see why many don't! but I don't think a brutally honest person equates to being an arsehole. Yep, there are arseholes and there are brutally honest people and sometimes the two cross over... but they're not always the same.

Heineken Helen

Urban Hiker wrote:

I've been told I'm TOO honest by my own mother. I think she means that sometimes I'm brutally honest.

To me it's a last straw kind of thing. I try to be nice, sugar-coat things or make subtle hints. But, sometimes, I get so entirely fed up with somebody not getting the point that I just want to bash their head in - and I do it in words.

I'm not big on name calling, just absolute "Here's how I see it, Dipshit."

- Okay, so maybe there is some minor name calling.

some people may prefer you leave out the 'dipshit' but the 'here's how I see it' part is excellent.

Am I the only person who loves these kinds of people?

In saying that though, I like to think I can judge if people can take it/want it or not. If I don't think they can take it or if I think they just want me to be nice, well then I'll be nice (which does often unfortunately involve bending the truth) but there are plenty other people who if they ask me a question, they're gonna get an honest answer... so think twice before you ask if your bum looks big

Jeremy1012

There have been a few times when people have tried to hide their true feelings in an attempt to "protect" me or not "hurt" me and in the end they've done so anyway and it has been a lot worse for the lack of honesty so I can see the worth in some brutal honesty every now and then. brutal is better than not at all.