How can people be so evil?

Cateeto

And get away with it?

What do you do when you see someone clearly out to do wrong.... But yet, no one believes you. What do you do when someone clearly has no conscience but has the ability to persuade others into adoring their every move and be fascinated with the fake life that they live?

This is the world we live in... I guess. But has justice/karma disappeared entirely?

Ever known of someone with evil intentions and felt that horrible feeling in your stomach because they get away with all they do? How did you deal?

And what do you do when this person is related to you?

Sorry guys... My rambling mind is venting.... :(

norm

don't worry bush will be out of office soon...;)



seriously, i remember you talking about your family in the past....and i feel for you.....in my family, we cutoff the sleazy people....but they always seem to rear themselves from time to time....usually when someone has died ($$$)....


care to elaborate on what happened or are you just venting cuz either way it's ok

Vedderlution_Baby

I dunno. I remember a while back some dude shot his friend in the face while they were hunting and when it was all said and done, the friend ended up apologizing to the shooter. You def got to be evil for that shit to happen.

yellowled24

Aw Kate :(
Sorry you are going through this crappola situation, is it the same thing that we talked about a few months ago??

I am a HUGE, MASSIVE, GARGANTUON believer in Karma....and I guess all you can do is go with your own direction and wait for the shit to hit the fan??

I wish I wasnt on the other side of the world...I feel like im not much help :(

Chin up hun

Cateeto

cutback wrote:

don't worry bush will be out of office soon...;)



seriously, i remember you talking about your family in the past....and i feel for you.....in my family, we cutoff the sleazy people....but they always seem to rear themselves from time to time....usually when someone has died ($$$)....


care to elaborate on what happened or are you just venting cuz either way it's ok

Okay... But bear with me... It's a long tale.

I posted awhile back of how I had just found happiness in a mate and had moved away from the town I grew up in... My mom ended up killing my cat. The thing with her though is that she can easily cover her trail and make it all seem "natural". The cat was old, she said he had illnesses and problems (my husband and I checked him over and found nothing) and she had my father take him in and put him down. Vets don't always ask questions when it comes to older animals. But that is in the past and if you want the whole story, just dig up the post.

Now... I went months without talking to my mother. I feel it unnecessary to have her in my life, as my whole life has been a series of circumstances bred from pure evil. The sad thing with her is that she is so manipulative and good at lying that everyone who hears my tales (other than a couple close friends and my husband) thinks I am an over-exaggerator and a liar. I am not.

I ended up having to talk to her again in order to see the rest of my family. I still care for my father, my sister, niece and nephew. I have a brother that got out long ago, who won't have contact with the family due to these circumstances surrounding my mom (not these in particular but some of his own experiences), but I see that his life is kind of unsatisfying and don't want to be him... So I still remain in contact with the woman strictly based on the fact that I can't see any of my other family without seeing her.

Anyway... Every time I come home for a visit with my dad, she tries to fuck with my head. She continually tries to take things I am attached to and make them disappear or do horrible things. I usually block her out.

My grandfather, who was the most important person in my life, left her with ownership of his dog once he died. The dog is a direct attachment to my grandfather and one filled with memories that I enjoy. Last time I was over for a visit, she began telling me of how she is putting the dog to sleep due to old age... I ignored this. What can I do? React and give her satisfaction? She of course was testing me and probably won't put the dog down, as she is quite attached, but if I would have shown any bit of sadness, you can beat your sweet ass she would do it in a heartbeat.

She brought out old photographs of my prior cat, searching my face for bits of emotion. I have to remain still and show no pain, or else she will be happy.

She tries to make me angry with throwing away all of my childhood stuff, to see if I will cringe.

The woman tries every angle to fuck with me, I swear.

But then today I give her a call and tell her I won't be around for Mother's Day due to strep throat (I don't want to get anyone sick). She interrupts me and tells me that one of my other childhood cats has "run off" and "vanished". The story seemed very familiar... In fact, it was the same story told years ago when I was 12 and my other cat had vanished.... So we're talking two cats that mysteriously vanish, the same story told, same detials and all.... Most would believe it because how could a mother do this? But I'm telling you... The way these cats acted, they would never just up and disappear.

I guess things could happen, but it's very coincidental that she tried every angle to fuck with my mind a couple weeks ago and many times before and got no satisfaction out of it.... She won't quit until she gets what she wants, and that is pure misery.

Now here's another fucked up tale...

I am beyond outraged with my sister's naive attitude. She acts like our mother could never do any harm, but it's quite opposite and brings a deep fear inside of me to the point of sometimes not wanting to breed.

I have a niece who is nearly 2. We just found out she is severely allergic to peanuts. The deadly type of allergy. My sister asked my parents to watch the young child while she went to the doctor. When my sister returned to pick her up, my mom walked through the doorway with a large bag of peanut M&Ms for my nephew and niece to share. Luckily, my sister was there to catch it...

Sure, mistakes could happen, right? Well, there are a few things wrong with this.

1. My sister told my mom the night before about the peanut allergy and my mom made a huge deal out it, "fearful" of the results of what would happen if the little one got a hold of a peanut.

2. My nephew has hated peanut M&M's since day one and makes a huge mess spitting out peanuts if he ever consumes them. No one in the family has bought him anything with peanuts since and it's just a known fact in my family.

3. It's not like she just had candy lying around. My parents hate candy. She went out of her way to buy this item.


When my sister explained this tale to me, I tried to get her to see my mom for who she truly is and she agreed it was a purposely done act... But in the end she took back her words and spoke of how "accidental" it must have been.

I'm tired of people being so oblivious and in denial over this woman... It saddens me when no truth can be seen.

Thanks for listening, if you read all this.

Cateeto

yellowled24 wrote:

Aw Kate :(
Sorry you are going through this crappola situation, is it the same thing that we talked about a few months ago??

I am a HUGE, MASSIVE, GARGANTUON believer in Karma....and I guess all you can do is go with your own direction and wait for the shit to hit the fan??

I wish I wasnt on the other side of the world...I feel like im not much help :(

Chin up hun

Thanks.... I'm trying to just block it all out.... But I just get so angry when I have to wait for the good of situations to arise. Someday, I suppose.... Someday....

yellowled24

Cateeto wrote:

Thanks.... I'm trying to just block it all out.... But I just get so angry when I have to wait for the good of situations to arise. Someday, I suppose.... Someday....

I know, it seems so unfair when youre not the one making the mess, but you have to deal with the shit that comes with it :(

Believe me, their time will come :mad:
Is it too early to drink??

Cateeto

yellowled24 wrote:

I know, it seems so unfair when youre not the one making the mess, but you have to deal with the shit that comes with it :(

Believe me, their time will come :mad:
Is it too early to drink??

Ha, not over here!

And trust me... It's a beer night for Kate!

pooch

I think some people are just born with evil in them, there is nothing you or i can say or do to change the way they are, these people have a great way of turning things around that makes you wonder where they got it from, it's like a work of art, i've seen some tricks pulled in my time that has always made me wonder just how the peson pulled it off.. amazing alright, maybe i'm just jealous that i don't have that pull over people, if i did maybe i wouldn't have got caught out so much.

yellowled24

:eek: OH......MY.......GOD

I just read through your story.........

Is there ANY way that you can manipulate her back? I guess like you say, by not showing youre upset is a good thing...
but surely you would think she would stop being such an awful person eventually??????

Im so sorry :(

Cateeto

yellowled24 wrote:

:eek: OH......MY.......GOD

I just read through your story.........

Is there ANY way that you can manipulate her back? I guess like you say, by not showing youre upset is a good thing...
but surely you would think she would stop being such an awful person eventually??????

Im so sorry :(

I just act like some sort of machine and program myself to not react... It's draining on me though and I want so badly to just run away from them all, but there's that obligation to stay for my other family... I don't know. I just can't understand how others can be so easily tricked by her.

She comes after me because I'm the only one in the family who is not a sheep, who got out, aside from my brother. She used to try to attack my brother too, but he left us all behind. Even I can't have contact with him.

I don't know if I want that life though...

I just wish karma would catch up already.

norm

Cateeto wrote:

Thanks for listening, if you read all this.

read it all and now i remember.....your mother need psychiatric help....it's one thing to look for attention it's another to kill cats and nearly kill grandkids for it.....i feel for you....if the whole family could get together and confront her to get some help that would be great.....but it sounds like that won't be happening anytime soon...i can't believe your sister doesn't see what's happening even after the m&m incident :(

i wish i could give you pearls of wisdom to help but this is definitely one fucked up situation....

yellowled24

cutback wrote:

read it all and now i remember.....your mother need psychiatric help....it's one thing to look for attention it's another to kill cats and nearly kill grandkids for it.....i feel for you....if the whole family could get together and confront her to get some help that would be great.....but it sounds like that won't be happening anytime soon...i can't believe your sister doesn't see what's happening even after the m&m incident :(

i wish i could give you pearls of wisdom to help but this is definitely one fucked up situation....

This could be an idea...

Could you get enough people to back you up Kate? Or are they all brainwashed by your mum??

Thats serious business bout the peanut thing...what about Child Welfare?? I 'spose they need concrete evidence....

Cateeto

cutback wrote:

read it all and now i remember.....your mother need psychiatric help....it's one thing to look for attention it's another to kill cats and nearly kill grandkids for it.....i feel for you....if the whole family could get together and confront her to get some help that would be great.....but it sounds like that won't be happening anytime soon...i can't believe your sister doesn't see what's happening even after the m&m incident :(

i wish i could give you pearls of wisdom to help but this is definitely one fucked up situation....

You know, it is sad. The more and more I try to convince family members of her evil ways, the more they turn on me. She sometimes even gets to them before I do, telling them that I will say something similar to what I actually say... So because of that, they feel I am over-exaggerating and making shit up (if any of that makes sense, I know I'm kind of typing a lot and it soudns okay in my head).

Even my brother, who got away, is partially messed up by her past actions and sometiems refuses to deal IF by chance he ever comes back to see my dad. I feel so alone out here sometimes...

I'm just lucky i have a handful of people who believe me, and that to me, is the best comfort I can get.

Cateeto

yellowled24 wrote:

This could be an idea...

Could you get enough people to back you up Kate? Or are they all brainwashed by your mum??

Thats serious business bout the peanut thing...what about Child Welfare?? I 'spose they need concrete evidence....

That and my sister, the child's mother, would be saying I was full of shit.

I could never get enough credible people to back me up... No one who deals with her firsthand.

She's a compulsive liar. An example of how persuasive she is towards people is this.

She called us up one time when we were looking for a record player. She said she had one we could have. The only record players at my house that I knew of were broken so I questioned her of it. She assured me that this one worked fine and to come out immediately.

We had our friend with us and drove the 120 mile trip that way to pick it up, him with us. On our long drive out there, we explained my mother to him and how manipulative she was. We told him to look out for it and expect her lies.

When we got there, sure enough, she had lied about the record player and being so angry, my husband and I refused to stay to visit and went back in the car with our friend to travel our long way back home.

"See what I mean about this woman?" we both stated to him, frustrated as all hell. His response? "I don't know guys... You're kind of full of it. She seemed pretty nice to me."

Horrifying.... It's horrifying when she even gets to your closest of friends.

meme

Is there any way you could take your pets with you? And if you stopped contacting your mom, wouldn't your dad and siblings keep contact with you?

yellowled24

Cateeto wrote:

You know, it is sad. The more and more I try to convince family members of her evil ways, the more they turn on me. She sometimes even gets to them before I do, telling them that I will say something similar to what I actually say... So because of that, they feel I am over-exaggerating and making shit up (if any of that makes sense, I know I'm kind of typing a lot and it soudns okay in my head).

Even my brother, who got away, is partially messed up by her past actions and sometiems refuses to deal IF by chance he ever comes back to see my dad. I feel so alone out here sometimes...

I'm just lucky i have a handful of people who believe me, and that to me, is the best comfort I can get.

I believe you

Have faith, the world works in mysterious ways my friend...
Is their anyway you can get the dog? Even steal it?? I know its not the RIGHT thing to do....but its not as if your Mum is doing the right thing either

paige_peach

pooch wrote:

I think some people are just born with evil in them, there is nothing you or i can say or do to change the way they are, these people have a great way of turning things around that makes you wonder where they got it from, it's like a work of art, i've seen some tricks pulled in my time that has always made me wonder just how the peson pulled it off.. amazing alright, maybe i'm just jealous that i don't have that pull over people, if i did maybe i wouldn't have got caught out so much.

I don't think people are born evil. Some are raise evil (treated evil and only know evil), and some carry so much pain that turn off their emotions and lack the care of any other human being. I work with small children and get a chance to watch them grow. I am always amazed at the children who beat the odds and don't become evil.

yellowled24

Cateeto wrote:

"See what I mean about this woman?" we both stated to him, frustrated as all hell. His response? "I don't know guys... You're kind of full of it. She seemed pretty nice to me."

Horrifying.... It's horrifying when she even gets to your closest of friends.

:eek: Holy shit
I woulda made him walk :eek:

meme

I think it's key that you stop to try and convince others that she is evil. It looks like you have made your point. Now they are on their own...

pooch

I've come across people like your mother in the past, it's like before the game they are given the rules and know how to play but they play dirty, i've had people turn on me and want to beat me up because of people like your mother, i'm lucky hun god blessed me with an angel of a mother 'who people 'in laws' play for a fool because of her sweetness and loving nature, i take it in my stride to protect her as i know how lucky i am and if i can be half the mother she has been to me to my son i'm doing ok.

I feel so sorry for you, the woman brought you into the world it's like she is punishing you for it, you are better than her and high five for keeping your head up.

karma is a bitch what comes around goes around